Fascism in the streets of America, brought to you by MAGA

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by lustylad

They actually prefer to wallow in their ignorance. The left now thinks it's cool to be anti-semitic, which means they're ok with insulting all Jews and victims of the Holocaust. Even on their late-night "comedy" shows.


"Such a comparison is not only meant to fan the flames of unrest and to encourage attacks against ICE and Border Patrol agents, but it's also an insult to every person, Jewish and otherwise, who died at places like Auschwitz-Birkenau. Those were innocent men, women, and children targeted because of their religion. They broke no laws and were systematically murdered by the Third Reich.

ICE and Border Patrol are arresting criminal illegal aliens and deporting them. DHS has also been offering illegal aliens money and a free plane ride home if they self-deport."


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/amy-cu...nazis-n2670318

The reason why the nazis didn’t wear masks was because the public either agreed with them or they were too afraid to speak out against them. And the reason why they were afraid was because they didn’t want to be targeted by the state or their fellow citizens.

ICE and Border Patrol agents are actively involved in a system that is targeting illegal immigrants with a terror campaign to try and get them to give up their rights and to self deport.

All the while the government is sending people overseas to prisons or to other foreign countries where they don’t speak the language, look like the local population and have to deal with the local government corruption.

Should the agents of ICE and Border Patrol be targeted for this? Probably not but that’s the situation they put themselves by participating in the current system.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

The United States Department of Justice tells us that Undocumented Immigrants offend at rates that are lower than U.S. citizens.

Undocumented Immigrant Offending Rate Lower Than U.S.-Born Citizen Rate
The study found that undocumented immigrants are arrested at less than half the rate of native-born U.S. citizens for violent and drug crimes and a quarter the rate of native-born citizens for property crimes.
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/J...0122-SD004.pdf

There are two problems with your argument.

First, the left has been telling us for years - nay, for decades - that the illegal population "lives in the shadows". This means they do everything possible to avoid interacting with all levels of government (including LE) and they significantly under-report crimes that are committed in/by their community. Vicious criminal gangs like MS-13 and tren de aragua exploit this fear and reluctance of other illegals to call the police when they commit crimes.

Bottom line - this makes any crime data collected by Texas and/or other states highly suspect and unreliable.

The second problem is - even if such "studies" were valid (they aren't), how does it give any consolation to the victims of criminal illegals? Do you think it makes a grieving mother feel any better if you tell her - "hey, don't be so upset! My studies show illegals like the one who murdered your daughter commit crimes at lower rates than legal Americans do!" Somehow I don't think that would go down very well.

The victims expect - and have every right to expect - the federal authorities to do their job and protect all Americans by stopping criminals from walking across the border and killing our loved ones.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Is that the goal - 13 million? Gristle has been ridiculing Trump's DHS by saying they couldn't even deport half a million last year.

As for making the roads safer, do you think it's a good idea for states like CA to issue Commercial Drivers Licenses to illegals who can't read our road signs but are allowed to drive 18-wheelers on highways in all 50 states?

Good idea or bad idea? Please explain and elaborate.


https://nypost.com/2025/08/19/us-new...ctuary-states/

Should we be putting these people to work and paying taxes, Yes.

Should they be allowed to obtain a Driver’s license commercial or otherwise. Yes if they pass the requirements and testing.

Should this person be accountable for his actions up to and including murder charges, Yes.

Should the government be accountable for this oversight and should the licensing process include more oversight, Yes.

Is the solution to remove all people here illegally, NO.

Is the solution for ICE and Border Patrol to actively terrorize the public and to subvert our immigration laws, NO.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by lustylad

First, the left has been telling us for years - nay, for decades - that the illegal population "lives in the shadows". This means they do everything possible to avoid interacting with all levels of government (including LE) and they significantly under-report crimes that are committed in/by their community. Vicious criminal gangs like MS-13 and tren de aragua exploit this fear and reluctance of other illegals to call the police when they commit crimes.

Bottom line - this makes any crime data collected by Texas and/or other states highly suspect and unreliable.

The second problem is - even if such "studies" were accurate (they aren't), how does it give any consolation to the victims of criminal illegals? Do you think it makes grieving mothers feel any better if you tell them - "hey, don't be so upset! My studies show illegals commit crimes at lower rates than legal Americans do!" Somehow I don't think that would go down very well. The victims expect - and have every right to expect - the federal authorities to do their job and protect all Americans by stopping criminals from walking across the border and killing our loved ones.

I think that you are cherry picking your facts by claiming the data collected is highly suspect and unreliable. It fits your narrative to believe that so you are choosing to disbelieve the evidence.

I would like to believe that the families of these traffic accidents or victims of crimes would not be persuaded into believing that an entire class of people should be treated as criminals for the actions of a few. That turning to hatred of people who may not look like them or speak differently than them is a poor solution to the problem of our broken immigration system.

We should be working together to come up with solutions to our immigration system but that’s not the policy of our current administration. They don’t want to change the laws they want to ignore them to accomplish their own white nationalist agenda.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

His actions are no less fascist because he's inefficient.

Those damn guardrails keep getting in the way.

I guess those guardrails weren't working very well under Obama, eh?

Please show me where you called Obama a "fascist" for his superior deportation record.

Consistency matters. If you want to have any credibility.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

I guess those guardrails weren't working very well under Obama, eh?

Please show me where you called Obama a "fascist" for his superior deportation record.

Consistency matters. If you want to have any credibility.

False equivalence and a red herring... the quintessential cornerstones of your arguments as you desperately try to change the narrative and focus on anything other than Trump's fascist record.

Adorable swing and a miss.

Do better.

[HDGristle]

https://www.propublica.org/article/m...tti-renee-good

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, and what else will come of it. The long and short is that no matter how much whattaboutism is brought to the table that it's neither shield nor sword.

This is about ICE killing Good and Pretti. Lying about it. Trying to normalize their fascist behavior and actions.

Its not about Obama being a more efficient deporter. It's not about "illegals" killing people. It's about the federal government overreaching, killing its own citizens and lying about it so that they can keep up the thuggery

[jayzee43]

It's not deportations themselves, it's the manner in which they're carried out. But MAGA knows that already.

Truth is, they get off on the cruelty of trump's untrained, trigger-happy ICE goons.

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I think that you are cherry picking your facts by claiming the data collected is highly suspect and unreliable.

They don’t want to change the laws they want to ignore them to accomplish their own white nationalist agenda.

You’re not the end all be all with all things data. You like to present yourself as a this neutral party “with the facts”. It’s nothing more than your woke interpretation but doesn’t make it the truth.

Also the libs are the most racist people in existence. You all make everything about race to suit your argument but it’s only a one-sided slant.

Nobody has ever said deport this race or that race. It’s been said to deport illegals, that includes white, brown, black, red, yellow, green, pink, and purple illegals. Why continue with your race baiting.

Keep fighting fake fascism.

[eyecu2]

Fake my ass....90% of deportations have been brown and Spanish speaking people. Example -Even the idea of hanging out at home Depot parking lots to gather up all of the Hispanic day trade workers. AKA brown people. Not saying that was a inaccurate way to find illegals, but certainly naive to think that particular groups were targeted. By the way the real comment should be refocused about fascism.
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political idea -prioritizing the nation—and often race—above individual rights. It is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, militarism, and the subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation.

Trump's rhetoric about shithole countries and Mexican folks bring the worst of the worse is how we got here. "They are sending murderers, rapists, insane asylum members. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists."


And you wonder why Dems and some of the sane Republicans call this regime fascist. It's because the orange Gibbon gas lit his way to this presidency. Had he not done that, he'd be sitting in the jail cell. You sorry suckers fell for it - and now we are all reaping the benefits of the dumbest man ever to sit behind that office

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

By the way the real comment should be refocused about fascism.

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political idea -prioritizing the nation—and often race—above individual rights. It is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, militarism, and the subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation.

Trump's rhetoric about shithole countries and Mexican folks bring the worst of the worse is how we got here. "They are sending murderers, rapists, insane asylum members. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists."

This right here. Trump wants people to blame immigrants for all the country’s problems rather than the people we keep electing to office and the ultra wealthy who are actively destroying our country and our democracy.

Originally Posted by eyecu2

And you wonder why Dems and some of the sane Republicans call this regime fascist. It's because the orange Gibbon gas lit his way to this presidency. Had he not done that, he'd be sitting in the jail cell. You sorry suckers fell for it - and now we are all reaping the benefits of the dumbest man ever to sit behind that office