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Old Yesterday, 06:50 AM   #316
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Unclear. We still have drunk driving, heart disease, falling off of ladders and ICE agents shooting people among other ways to die. So we can't really say when it comes to who would still be alive in Trump's fascist America. Not for certain
Nice spin.

We know those people were killed by illegals that should not have been here.

More fake fascism.
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Old Yesterday, 06:56 AM   #317
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You people are deranged. I have to believe you know the differences between real and fake fascism. Well one of you doesnt know any way.

“So let me get this straight.

You think kids will study Trump and Netanyahu the same way they study Hitler and Stalin?

Trump, who lost an election and left. Netanyahu, who lost an election, sat in opposition, and won the next one.

Those two compared to a man who banned every political party in Germany within six months, built industrialized death camps, and gassed six million Jews, and another man whose secret police killed 700,000 people in eighteen months for insufficient loyalty, who collectivized every farm in the Soviet Union and deported millions of families to freeze to death in Siberia, who ran a state where the concept of a free election simply did not exist.

You’re comparing countries where courts block the government, where the press publishes vicious criticism every single day, where millions of citizens march in the streets against their own leaders and go home after to regimes where owning the wrong pamphlet got you sent to a camp, where the Gestapo’s orders were literally exempt from judicial review, where the NKVD planted informants in schools and churches and secretly marked ballots to find out who voted no so they could disappear them?

You’re comparing free-market economies where you can start a business, own property, and sue your own government to a regime that forced Jewish families to sell their businesses at a fraction of their value then seized their bank accounts, their insurance payments, and their personal belongings, and another that labeled any farmer who owned his own land a class enemy and shot him?

You’re comparing countries with constitutionally protected religious freedom to regimes that seized synagogues, dissolved Jewish communities, imprisoned rabbis, and in one case, built an entire industrial apparatus for the purpose of erasing a people from the earth?

You are comparing a body count of zero politically motivated state killings to a combined body count of tens of millions people gassed in chambers, starved in engineered famines, worked to death in frozen camps, shot in ditches and dumped in mass graves?

And you did all of this from a phone, on a free platform, in a free country, where the worst thing that will happen to you for calling your elected leader a dictator is that someone quote-tweets you?

The people who actually lived under Hitler and Stalin did not get to post. They got a knock on the door at 3 AM. And then they were never heard from him again..

You should be embarrassed by your ignorance, but you’re not. Because you represent the most privileged class in the most privileged country in the history of the world and you’re so uneducated that you don’t even have the common sense to appreciate it.”
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Old Yesterday, 07:50 AM   #318
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I am embarrassed by your fealty to the cult of the fat, fascist, felon Trump, where all those things you’re saying have or will be repeated.

Post a link with that rant so we can see whose words you’re plagiarizing.
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Old Yesterday, 07:53 AM   #319
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Nice spin.

We know those people were killed by illegals that should not have been here.

More fake fascism.
And how about all those people killed by Trump’s goons?
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Old Yesterday, 08:43 AM   #320
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I am embarrassed by your fealty to the cult of the fat, fascist, felon Trump, where all those things you’re saying have or will be repeated.

Post a link with that rant so we can see whose words you’re plagiarizing.
I’m embarrassed that you think, that anybody thinks that’s anything but a copy and paste.

Those like “ “ at the beginning and end gave it away no?

It’s a relevant argument for this thread. You guys are comparing a pea to a watermelon and trying to say they’re the same.

I’m also embarrassed you can’t see the end game of open borders and some of the potential outcomes. I’m even more embarrassed if you can see them all and blindly flow. Woke is a cult.

But fake fascism is the problem! Lmao.
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Old Yesterday, 08:44 AM   #321
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And how about all those people killed by Trump’s goons?
How many?

Let’s compare lists of deaths from ICE vs illegals. You won’t like the results but we finally agree that a comparison is good way to go.
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Old Yesterday, 09:41 AM   #322
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So, trump simply "lost an election and left"?

WTF kind of sane-washing is that? Or is that one those special people who believe that was just a normal tourist visit to the Capitol building?

News flash: he's STILL trying to claim he won that election, and nearly 6 years later, hasn't conceded.

We get it, you desperately want fascists to run our government, but you're in a tiny minority, which is shrinking by the day. You'll just have to settle for celebrating the anniversaries of these ICE killings in the future. May they be a reminder of the time when you almost had your wish granted.

The party's over.
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Old Yesterday, 10:13 AM   #323
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Unclear. We still have drunk driving, heart disease, falling off of ladders and ICE agents shooting people among other ways to die. So we can't really say when it comes to who would still be alive in Trump's fascist America. Not for certain.
^^^ Wow. Only a callous, uncaring person without an ounce of empathy would say that.

Let's see if I got it right...

1. Biden throws open the borders.

2. Millions of illegals pour in without proper vetting, including murderers, rapists, human traffickers and drug smugglers.

3. Some of these illegals murder innocent young Americans in the prime of their lives.

And instead of expressing any regret for Biden's incredibly stupid and irresponsible border policies, you simply shrug and tell us - "so what if Americans are being murdered by illegals? We're all going to die some day!"

Do you consider yourself a Christian?

Why is it so hard for you to show some decency by saying the right thing? Just admit Biden fucked up and try to show some genuine sorrow for those who were murdered as a result of his fuck-ups?
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Old Yesterday, 10:31 AM   #324
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Nothing about what I said means I don't empathize the losses... or invalidate my point no matter how much you think it.

Nor does or what pointless gotcha you think you have or irrelevant whattaboutisms you want to bring up to distract from the fascist tendencies and actions that were on display in MN.

Your feeble analysis and attempts to flip this as remain droll as ever
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Old Yesterday, 12:02 PM   #325
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Only people who are completely lacking in any feelings of compassion or empathy for their fellow American citizens would call those deaths "irrelevant"!
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They're relevant, just not to this thread. They're being used as a distraction to draw attention away from MAGA fascism.
They are 100% relevant to this thread!

This thread is about ICE and your attempts to demonize it. ICE is the enforcement arm of our immigration system. ICE is supposed to remove criminal illegal immigrants who are murdering Americans - whose lives you consider trivial and for whom you express zero sympathy or remorse. If you succeed in demonizing and eliminating ICE, there will be more & more tragic killings such as the murders listed below by GM. That's what makes it 100% relevant to this thread!

Stop acting like you're a mod whenever you feel uncomfortable with someone's arguments. Why must you always duck & deflect? Maybe it's time to call you GACO - Gristle Always Chickens Out!


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Now do a list of US citizens killed by illegals. Every one of these deaths were preventable and it’s 100% the Dems fault.

Don’t want to? Ok, I will help.

You never attack the problem, which was the Biden administration opening the border and incentivizing the illegals, you only attack the clean-up effort. Doesn’t seem very centrist or moderate to me.

None of this happens if Biden and the Dems don’t open the border. And Dems will do it again as soon as they get the chance.

Also preventable tragedies:
• Brianna Kelson
• Karen Diamond
• Billy McKellar
• Zabar McKellar
• Krishaun McKellar
• Kason McKellar
• Nicole Gregory
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• Jimmy Friesenhahn
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Nothing about what I said means I don't empathize (sic) the losses... or invalidate my point no matter how much you think it.
Here's your point again... it's pretty clear you invalidated yourself:

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..."so what if Americans are being murdered by illegals? We're all going to die some day!"

And we all know what you refuse to say:

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Why is it so hard for you to show some decency by saying the right thing? Just admit Biden fucked up and try to show some genuine sorrow for those who were murdered as a result of his fuck-ups?
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No

But don't let me stop you from trying to distract from the actual point of this thread, which is the fascism the Trump administration has displayed brazenly

Your fixation with me is noted. Adorable. Misplaced. Noted

Tell us you support fascism without saying it. Chances are you wear a red hat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAQokqZ6g_4

The folks in the comments see through the argument. The red hats in this thread are playing make believe
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Old Yesterday, 01:35 PM   #328
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You people are deranged. I have to believe you know the differences between real and fake fascism...

You should be embarrassed by your ignorance...
They actually prefer to wallow in their ignorance. The left now thinks it's cool to be anti-semitic, which means they're ok with insulting all Jews and victims of the Holocaust. Even on their late-night "comedy" shows.


"Such a comparison is not only meant to fan the flames of unrest and to encourage attacks against ICE and Border Patrol agents, but it's also an insult to every person, Jewish and otherwise, who died at places like Auschwitz-Birkenau. Those were innocent men, women, and children targeted because of their religion. They broke no laws and were systematically murdered by the Third Reich.

ICE and Border Patrol are arresting criminal illegal aliens and deporting them. DHS has also been offering illegal aliens money and a free plane ride home if they self-deport."



https://townhall.com/tipsheet/amy-cu...nazis-n2670318
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People who believe that deporting 13 million illegal immigrants will make the roads safer are massively ill informed or just ignorant of the facts. I’ll keep saying it until someone proves otherwise.
Is that the goal - 13 million? Gristle has been ridiculing Trump's DHS by saying they couldn't even deport half a million last year.

As for making the roads safer, do you think it's a good idea for states like CA to issue Commercial Drivers Licenses to illegals who can't read our road signs but are allowed to drive 18-wheelers on highways in all 50 states?

Good idea or bad idea? Please explain and elaborate.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/19/us-new...ctuary-states/
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His actions are no less fascist because he's inefficient.

Those damn guardrails keep getting in the way

https://www.concordmonitor.com/2026/...maga-movement/
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