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Ez5417 · 10-13-2011, 07:50 PM

Lol I've had a female "pimp" as well... We remained friends for a while until she went completely broke and relied on me for everything.... I bailed that drama pretty quickly. Girls just starting out::: all you need is access to this site. I learned everything from the wonderful ladies here and received some of the best advice from clients themselves and there are so many helpful tips, threads, and FAQs here that get you started and stable in a heart beat. Free education with very helpful and giving support. Txpilot, years ago, was the one that told me about our previous mother site and introduced me to this world. He helped in my getting away from that disgusting pig of a pimp. Yuck. Lol.

JMcB · 10-13-2011, 09:04 PM

Ezra ... I am so glad that you got out ... also am very happy that all the ones that got out did also ( I can only assume that your story is not unfortunately unique) ... I can only hope that more ladies heed your words and get out from under the yoke of such oppressors and find happiness in all that they do.

uparoundnoon · 10-14-2011, 12:42 AM

You guys are a trip. Everyone here pounding their fists at that mean nasty boogeyman called the pimp. But that's all so easy to say now in 2011 but does anyone remember 1994 or 1983 or 1978? Where were you beating the shit out of that concept called pimp before you were hiding in your cozy bedrooms and offices hooked up to the safety of the Internet and thousands of provider reviews and ads and verifying sites like aspd and eccie and ter and ymmv? Hell if you were like me you were out there trying to make friends with a pimp (yes I did) or a madam or an agency owner because you got tired of trolling the street corners and truck stops and sleazy hotels and "ho strolls" for endless hours looking for some action and running from the cops. Funny how the Internet suddenly changed us all into gallant and noble white knights condemning the "yoke of such oppressors".

I don't especially like the concept of pimp (especially the ones who get their girls to call them Daddy___) but before the Internet it was a necessary evil. The agency thing is just a modification and many of the "legendary" independent providers here got their start there.

I personally think that half of what "disgusts" us hobbyists about "managers" is that they are making a lot of money off our addiction. And we are secretly jealous that they are getting a portion of our hard earned money AND oftentimes getting for free what we have to spend large amounts of our cash trying to procure. About 3 or 4 years ago there was a guy here in town who had 3 of the hottest providers in town that he was pimping and he was making a nice living off those 3 and sleeping with them for free. I saw 2 of his girls regularly and was probably putting $500 a week in this young punk's pocket although I never met him. You better believe I was jealous because they were also screwing him every day for free.

JMcB · 10-14-2011, 05:10 AM

Whatever … you think what you will.

FootLong · 10-14-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by uparoundnoon

You better believe I was jealous because they were also screwing him every day for free.

But were they liking it? (see Ezra's post) Or feeling they had no choice and just enduring it like slaves? That's really the kind of man you are jealous of?

FYI, Up, I was not like you in 1994, nor prior, nor at anytime I think. And we are about the same age, but I guess I'm a late bloomer. I don't think I would have dreamed of doing this stuff before Internet and Indies.

I'm sure I have seen girls who had pimps - but as long as I don't know about it and it is not evident, it's not my business.

Guest083013 · 10-14-2011, 03:03 PM

interesting.....

Ez5417 · 10-14-2011, 11:33 PM

I'm pretty sure most here are like Footlong!! And exactly babe.... I'm pretty sure they weren't. Your point stands strong. Period.

Ez5417 · 10-15-2011, 12:30 AM

I mean, it seems like such a joke that any man here who have expressed their opinion (that agrees w most independent and successful beautiful providers who are whole within) could ever possibly be jealous of an actual trashy pimp. I'm actually lol here. Most of the men here most definitely make more money and w stability I might add then that of a pimp in SA. Cmon now. Being around pimps first hand, they don't know the first thing about stability or investing, let alone responsibility regarding bills or taking care of someone. Let's not forget, the boys here spend their money because it's EXTRA money they have. Most pimps who are so volatile with taking money obviously have reasons why. Usually because they need it themselves. Lmao. I'm pretty sure no one here is jealous of that. Now getting free ass on the side?? Hmmm... Still doubt it seeing how I've been there too. Who wants to get their rocks off w a girl who is obviously miserable and crying?? Oy.. Sorry sweets but your perception is far from mine. You're entitled of course. But so are we. Xoxo

dent · 10-15-2011, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ExoticEzra

I mean, it seems like such a joke that any man here who have expressed their opinion (that agrees w most independent and successful beautiful providers who are whole within) could ever possibly be jealous of an actual trashy pimp. I'm actually lol here. Most of the men here most definitely make more money and w stability I might add then that of a pimp in SA. Cmon now. Being around pimps first hand, they don't know the first thing about stability or investing, let alone responsibility regarding bills or taking care of someone. Let's not forget, the boys here spend their money because it's EXTRA money they have. Most pimps who are so volatile with taking money obviously have reasons why. Usually because they need it themselves. Lmao. I'm pretty sure no one here is jealous of that. Now getting free ass on the side?? Hmmm... Still doubt it seeing how I've been there too. Who wants to get their rocks off w a girl who is obviously miserable and crying?? Oy.. Sorry sweets but your perception is far from mine. You're entitled of course. But so are we. Xoxo

Nailed it!

Jealous of a pimp?

[-dent-]

promdate · 10-15-2011, 08:04 AM

DITTO to what dent said!

Laz · 10-15-2011, 04:37 PM

The idea of a pimp that uses and abuses women is repugnant.

However, I have seen the need for a business manager of some nature that is employed by the provider and can provide a variety of services that the provider is willing to pay someone to do for them. There are numerous threads I have read about women that did not have an advisor/manager/consultant when they needed one and ended up with problems. The key difference is the role I see is a person that works for the provider and serves based on her needs and satisfaction with the services rendered.

uparoundnoon · 10-15-2011, 06:25 PM

Wow this is like aspd where I feel like I've rattled some chains around here. Ezra you are a gorgeous and fun girl and I wasn't condoning your experience. And FL and Dent I wasn't implying that gentlemen like yourselves are wannabe pimps. I was just giving another twisted way (my own) of looking at things. And BTW that guy I was talking about wasn't an enslaver or whatever because those girls loved him. I know he's a loser and his live and attitude sucks but at the time 4 years ago his deal looked pretty good to me. LOL.

Remember that girl on aspd back then who truly looked like a model. Hardly anyone went to see her because she was $400 an hour and $250 for the half. She had done some modeling and J Gault and I reviewed her and she was real limited service (for $400!) but she was real hot. I forgot her name but she loved that dude. He was a young white pimp with 3 hot young girls who were fighting over him and giving him their money. For a minute I was jealous but then they left him and his life was in the crapper because he was useless and just knew how to play video games. LOL.

Guest081519 · 10-15-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by uparoundnoon

... because he was useless and just knew how to play video games. LOL.

Hey! Don't disrespect my version of life skills.

Ez5417 · 10-15-2011, 10:43 PM

Hahaha. Gotcha Uparoundnoon.

Doglegg · 10-18-2011, 04:47 PM

Uparoundnoon and Ezra,

I get what you are both saying, and both bing valid viewpoints to the table.

Having been overseas in the far east, most of the young ladies had 'managers', most often bar owners, business men or business women.

In the younger days of Miami, the SC girls as well as SW girls had 'managers'.

That's the way it was and to a large extent the way it is today with AMPs, SW, and yes, agencies.

Like it? No. Condone it? Not when I'm aware.

Like UpRNoon, you bet there's a bit of jealousy if I know there is a reg boyfriend or SO enjoying for free when I have to pay $$.

Now does that mean the provider can have no other life? No, I just don't like the idea of a dick living off of my hard earned dollars, whether boyfriend, SO, or pimp.

I realize there are providers that are in committed relationships and pay their own way.

I get that and the fact they have a swinging lifestyle, there's no hating on that, to each his or her own. But I find that hard to support due to an old fashioned belief system.

Again I know one or two that fit that description, and there is no disrespect intended, just my own opinion.

As far as pimp daddy's, if I know, I stay away.