China Taiwan Catalyst for the Greatest Depression

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by CPT Savajo

When China moves to claim Taiwan by force will that be the catalyst that crashes global stock markets igniting the greatest depression ever seen in the United States? Possibly, and here's why.

I say/think things have to play out in Gaza and Ukraine.











Just sayin'.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by CPT Savajo

Manufacturing should come back to the US but I don't think it is to any major degree. But they did start a green industry. Americans need jobs other than shelf stocker, burger flipper, and service related jobs. When America exported manufacturing jobs we exported our brains.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Check out this video on the China/Tiewan issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GJJVAQNOWM

However, it is my unclassified, ill-informed strategic assessment that Tiewan will not be China's next extension-of-influence-by-force. I think their next colonial effort will be Myanmar. China has had a long game plan to surround India by forcibly seizing several of the smaller nations bordering Innia in the Himalayas. Myanmar shares long borders with both China and India and has a long coastline on the Indian Ocean.

Colonizing Mynamar, as they have Tibet, Bhutan and Nepal would give China access to the Indian Ocean.

It seems with the Belt/Road initiative that China is implementing the likely outcome with Myanmar would be more peaceful and business related. India and China are BRICS member nations and them going to full scale war is unlikely even with the border disputes they've had with one another. Taiwan is the prize that China wants.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by NiceGuy53

I'd like to know who is paying high school kids 16 to 18 dollars an hour to flip burgers. The entry level hourly wage at McDonalds in Texas is about 9 to 10 dollars an hour. 16 to 18 dollars an hour is about what managers make.

California.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

I say/think things have to play out in Gaza and Ukraine.











Just sayin'.

Gaza is a hell hole and Israel has it under control as the people starve to death. Their real threat is Iran. When there was a media blackout and they didn't want to show the damage in Israel on the news stations after the latest volley of missles being fired back and fourth with Iran that pretty much said what many already thought. Israel got their asses handed to them and many missles got thru the missle defense system as they got overwhelmed. Seems like it's a better policy to make peace with their neighbors.

As for Ukraine who is losing the war, China is probably waiting for the US and Western European nations to commit more so to defending Ukraine by placing troops in Western Ukraine and depleting armaments. China want's them bogged down in a fight so there is less likely of a chance that the US would intervene if China moved on Taiwan. I'm thinking the Dnipro River will act as a natural boundary splitting Ukraine in two like East Germany/West Germany if a peace argreement were met. Who knows though as Russia may press on and take the whole of Ukraine while leveling Kyiv in the process.

Seems like the EU is preparing and not in a good way...
EU proposal to scan all private messages gains momentum

"A controversial European Union proposal dubbed “Chat Control” is regaining momentum, with 19 out of 27 EU member states reportedly backing the measure.

The plan would mandate that messaging platforms, including WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram, must scan every message, photo and video sent by users starting in October, even if end-to-end encryption is in place, popular French tech blogger Korben wrote on Monday." https://cointelegraph.com/news/eu-ch...ens-encryption

Before they (EU) take you to war they want to make sure subjects can be silenced so there is no using technology to plan against the Communistic power structure. They don't trust their own people. CBDC potentially launching in October 2025 in the EU but to what degree is just another measure of control by the EU so people can't take their money out of the system if they take them to war. They can't stop word of mouth.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by CPT Savajo

Gaza is a hell hole and Israel has it under control as the people starve to death. Their real threat is Iran. When there was a media blackout and they didn't want to show the damage in Israel on the news stations after the latest volley of missles being fired back and fourth with Iran that pretty much said what many already thought. Israel got their asses handed to them and many missles got thru the missle defense system as they got overwhelmed. Seems like it's a better policy to make peace with their neighbors.

As for Ukraine who is losing the war, China is probably waiting for the US and Western European nations to commit more so to defending Ukraine by placing troops in Western Ukraine and depleting armaments. China want's them bogged down in a fight so there is less likely of a chance that the US would intervene if China moved on Taiwan. I'm thinking the Dnipro River will act as a natural boundary splitting Ukraine in two like East Germany/West Germany if a peace argreement were met. Who knows though as Russia may press on and take the whole of Ukraine while leveling Kyiv in the process.

Seems like the EU is preparing and not in a good way...
EU proposal to scan all private messages gains momentum

"A controversial European Union proposal dubbed “Chat Control” is regaining momentum, with 19 out of 27 EU member states reportedly backing the measure.

The plan would mandate that messaging platforms, including WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram, must scan every message, photo and video sent by users starting in October, even if end-to-end encryption is in place, popular French tech blogger Korben wrote on Monday." https://cointelegraph.com/news/eu-ch...ens-encryption

Before they (EU) take you to war they want to make sure subjects can be silenced so there is no using technology to plan against the Communistic power structure. They don't trust their own people. CBDC potentially launching in October 2025 in the EU but to what degree is just another measure of control by the EU so people can't take their money out of the system if they take them to war. They can't stop word of mouth.

I can tell you've given this considerable thought. I like the read.

Maybe sharpen up the punctuation. Good stuff.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by CPT Savajo

It seems with the Belt/Road initiative that China is implementing the likely outcome with Myanmar would be more peaceful and business related. India and China are BRICS member nations and them going to full scale war is unlikely even with the border disputes they've had with one another. Taiwan is the prize that China wants.

China's current foreign policy strategy is expansion through any means.

When Myanmar becomes destabilized through general civil disorder or civil war, the Chinese will intervene to become the defect power controlling the territory. When they do, the Belt and Road will be part of that, but the main goal for them is to have a direct navel presence in the Indian Ocean. Controlling yet another border with India is also a part of that.


The Chinese strategic goal is influence and control. They have bottled in India in the Himalayan north. They will attempt to contain India at sea. A direct navel presence in the Indian Ocean would allow them avoid the choke points at the Sunda Straight in Indonesia.

The ability to base Chinese surface vessels and submarines on the coast to the west of India would complicate efforts by Western powers attempting to aid nd support Tiwan if and when China chooses to annex it.

I believe that Myanmar will come before Taiwan.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

China's current foreign policy strategy is expansion through any means.

When Myanmar becomes destabilized through general civil disorder or civil war, the Chinese will intervene to become the defect power controlling the territory. When they do, the Belt and Road will be part of that, but the main goal for them is to have a direct navel presence in the Indian Ocean. Controlling yet another border with India is also a part of that.


The Chinese strategic goal is influence and control. They have bottled in India in the Himalayan north. They will attempt to contain India at sea. A direct navel presence in the Indian Ocean would allow them avoid the choke points at the Sunda Straight in Indonesia.

The ability to base Chinese surface vessels and submarines on the coast to the west of India would complicate efforts by Western powers attempting to aid nd support Tiwan if and when China chooses to annex it.

I believe that Myanmar will come before Taiwan.

I don't think a conflict with Myanmar will come before Taiwan. If China wanted a Naval port in Myanmar I'm sure they would probably try to negotiate a deal thru peaceful means via trade. I don't know a lot about China's and Myanmar's history but I don't hear how China is flying jets into Myanmars territory like Taiwan and Naval encroachments into their territorial waters. Myanmar and China are trading partners and Myanmar has rare gemstones like Painite which the Chinese want.
I imagine the Chinese still hold resentment towards India because of the Opium Wars of old but both being BRICS members they're still working towards a common goal even though China may have aspirations of their own.

[NiceGuy53]

Originally Posted by CPT Savajo

California.

This may be true for some parts of California but not for most of California. And it certainly is not true for the rest of the country. The author of post #4 is using false information to make his argument against bringing back manufacturing to this country.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Thats exactly why Trump has moved to tarriff everything. Hes trying to break our addiction to cheap Asian shit before the shooting kicks off over Taiwan. One way pr another China is going to move on Taiwan before 2030. they need 20 years to rehab their image after the invasion in time for their 100th anniversary in 2049. Just like they needed 20 years after Tianeman to get the Olympics.

Strategery!!!

I think not.

If so, he would have stated this while stumping. He is just stuck in a 40+ years gone by mindset.

The American people brought it upon themselves. And it is up to them to change their buying habits if they want to get out of it. One person trying to bring it upon them is showing the repurcusions of such.