Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > General Interest > The Political Forum
test
The Political Forum Discuss anything related to politics in this forum. World politics, US Politics, State and Local.

Most Favorited Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Most Liked Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Top Reviewers
cockalatte 646
MoneyManMatt 490
Still Looking 399
samcruz 399
Jon Bon 396
Harley Diablo 377
honest_abe 362
DFW_Ladies_Man 313
Chung Tran 288
lupegarland 287
nicemusic 285
You&Me 281
Starscream66 279
George Spelvin 265
sharkman29 255
Top Posters
DallasRain70793
biomed163231
Yssup Rider60955
gman4453294
LexusLover51038
offshoredrilling48654
WTF48267
pyramider46370
bambino42591
CryptKicker37218
The_Waco_Kid37009
Mokoa36496
Chung Tran36100
Still Looking35944
Mojojo33117

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-10-2022, 09:49 AM   #1
VitaMan
Premium Access
 
VitaMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 27, 2010
Location: houston
Posts: 10,344
Encounters: 70
Default Trump hearings

There’s a reason Fox News didn’t want to air this prime-time hearing. What we saw was the truth about January 6 showcased with captivating effectiveness.


What happened on that day was not a “tourist visit,” as Republican Rep. Andrew Clyde (GA) claimed. It was not “legitimate political discourse,” as the RNC argued. It was not a “love fest” as Donald Trump delusionally declared. And the responsibility for this does not fall on "everybody in the country," as Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) asserted just hours before tonight’s hearing. This was a violent, criminal conspiracy to overthrow American democracy perpetrated by Donald Trump, his allies, and domestic extremist groups. Or, to put it as simply as Chairman Bennie Thomson (D-MS) did, January 6 was "the culmination of an attempted coup" — an attempted coup that’s far from over.


“I did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen... which I told the president was bulls**t,” Donald Trump’s former Attorney General William Barr’s voice reverberated throughout the committee hearing chamber. "I respect Attorney General Barr, so I accepted what he was saying," said Ivanka Trump in a subsequent clip. We now know that even Donald Trump’s own daughter doesn’t believe the election was stolen.


This was thanks to evidence presented tonight by Vice-Chairwoman Committee Liz Cheney (R-WY). Cheney laid out how, over the course of the hearings this month, the committee will unravel Trump’s seven-part plan to overturn the presidential election. While the target audience tonight was very clearly the American people, much of what was covered seemed like it was directed at an audience of one: Attorney General Merrick Garland.


Cheney showcased clip after clip of testimony from Trump aides, from Jason Miller to William Barr to Ivanka Trump, where it was made clear Trump was told he lost. That testimony proved Trump was well aware the election wasn’t stolen but tried to overturn the results anyway. The committee likely led with this to demonstrate corrupt intent on the part of Trump, which would be key to a criminal case.


If you had any doubt remaining about whether the January 6 Committee believes Donald Trump engaged in criminal conduct, the number of times Cheney said "illegal" should rectify that. Cheney spoke about Trump’s "relentless effort" to pressure Mike Pence to overturn the election, stating, "What President Trump demanded that Mike Pence do wasn’t just wrong, it was illegal and unconstitutional."


Cheney also cited District Judge David Carter’s ruling which stated that Trump “more likely than not” committed obstruction and conspiracy in his bid to obstruct Congress’s ability to count the electoral votes in the 2020 election. The committee also plans to break down how Trump pressured state officials to overturn the election, including via the fake elector scheme. Cheney claimed that multiple Republican Congresspeople, including Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA), sought pardons for their roles in the effort to overturn the 2020 election.


Aside from the very intentional effort to outline a criminal case, there were some purely shocking revelations. Cheney claimed that a witness told the January 6 Committee that in response to “Hang Mike Pence” chants from insurrectionists, Trump said: "Maybe our supporters have the right idea. Mike Pence deserves it."


Shortly after this, riveting new footage showed the entire Capitol siege in chronological order from multiple angles. Clips weaved together showed one overarching narrative. If any American forgot how violent the insurrection was and how close our democracy came to collapse, they were reminded tonight.


Then we had short testimony from two witnesses. Nick Quested, a documentary filmmaker who followed the Proud Boys in the days leading up to January 6, and Caroline Edwards, who was one of the first officers to be injured on January 6, testified about their experience.


The committee showed testimony from Proud Boys claiming that Donald Trump’s September 29, 2020 "stand back and stand by" comments increased membership. They showed that Trump’s December 19, 2020, tweet calling for people to come to the Capitol on January 6 spurred a strong reaction from the extremist group. Members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are now charged with seditious conspiracy in connection with the attack. Putting a spotlight on these links between domestic extremist groups who plotted the violence on January 6 and Trump himself was the focus of the last hour.


This was an excellent first hearing. Speaker Pelosi’s decision to not include Trump sycophants like Rep. Jim Banks (R-IN) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) on the committee has proved worthwhile. There were no belligerent tirades or disinformation-filled deflections. Just the facts.


With hearings scheduled throughout the rest of this month, there are certainly more shoes to drop. What I’m most looking forward to is the final outcome: the recommendations on what should be done. Will they recommend charges for Donald Trump or simply lay out their findings like Special Counsel Robert Mueller? Will they make legislative suggestions to address the ongoing assaults on democracy?


In the weeks leading up to tonight’s hearing, Trump has reportedly been obsessing over it, organizing his allies for counter-messaging. If there’s one thing Trump understands more than most, it’s the power of compelling television. This is why he was so fearful of the January 6 hearings. After 11 months of work obtaining over 1,000 interviews and reviewing over 140,000 documents, tonight the January 6 Committee proved Trump’s fear is justified.


If any Trump allies did happen to tune in tonight, I hope they heard what Liz Cheney said to them: "There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain."
VitaMan is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 01:25 PM   #2
Trumptester
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 9, 2021
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 71
Default

Trump cant here any thing he does all the talking.
Trumptester is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 07:18 PM   #3
Salty Again
Valued Poster
 
Join Date: Sep 26, 2021
Location: down under Pittsburgh
Posts: 10,070
Default

.... THAT - was a Hearing??! ... ... ...

... The American people surely heard them loud and clear:

SKY-HIGH Inflation and Energy prices surely gonna continue.
America is under-going a great grand "transition"...

### Salty
Salty Again is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 08:55 PM   #4
Chung Tran
BANNED
 
Chung Tran's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 5, 2013
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 36,100
Encounters: 288
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty Again View Post
.... THAT - was a Hearing??! ... ... ...

... The American people surely heard them loud and clear:

SKY-HIGH Inflation and Energy prices surely gonna continue.
America is under-going a great grand "transition"...

### Salty
Your Trump defense is to deflect and discuss inflation. Your peragotive, but it underscores that your Hero tried to steal an election, and summoned Right-wing crazies to help. He wanted to hang his own Vice President for not going along with his illegal scheme. Even today he tweeted that Bill Barr ''sucked''. How fucking childish and embarrassing.
Chung Tran is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 09:06 PM   #5
The_Waco_Kid
AKA Admiral Waco Kid
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
Posts: 37,009
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chung Tran View Post
Your Trump defense is to deflect and discuss inflation. Your peragotive, but it underscores that your Hero tried to steal an election, and summoned Right-wing crazies to help. He wanted to hang his own Vice President for not going along with his illegal scheme. Even today he tweeted that Bill Barr ''sucked''. How fucking childish and embarrassing.

nonsense. how many false claims can you make in one paragraph? quite a few it seems. Trump never incited anything, never told anyone to hang Pence. he didn't summon a mob. he gave a speech. what happened after was not encouraged by Trump.


you do recall that he tweeted for the crowd not to be violent and leave and what does twittybird do? deleted it. brilliant! you also know that Trump did authorize call-up of the national guard a few days earlier in case protest did happen and guess who declined to use them? Pelosi and the DC police chief. these are facts jack!


and byw what's up with all this micro-ban bullshit?
The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 09:23 PM   #6
Chung Tran
BANNED
 
Chung Tran's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 5, 2013
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 36,100
Encounters: 288
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid View Post
nonsense. how many false claims can you make in one paragraph? quite a few it seems. Trump never incited anything, never told anyone to hang Pence. he didn't summon a mob. he gave a speech. what happened after was not encouraged by Trump.


you do recall that he tweeted for the crowd not to be violent and leave and what does twittybird do? deleted it. brilliant! you also know that Trump did authorize call-up of the national guard a few days earlier in case protest did happen and guess who declined to use them? Pelosi and the DC police chief. these are facts jack!


and byw what's up with all this micro-ban bullshit?
He gathered the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers to D.C. I didn't say he told anyone to hang Pence, He said Pence should be hung. You like to parse words, but it doesn't work on me. You should have learned that in the Church shooter thread. I think Trump encouraged the Mob.. You don't. Levianon thinks it was a peaceful protest.

I know Trump authorized the Guard. You are saying the Mob could have been stopped, blaming the Democrats (I guess) for not stopping the crime BEFORE it happened. Which is funny as fuck, that was my position on the Church Shooter. Stop him before he acts. But you argued for days against my view.

Why would there have needed to be more Capitol security upfront? Because just like the Fort Worth Church Murderer, there was much EVIDENCE that a major crime was imminent. You take that position here, to absolve Trump, but you whined for days that I was impeding the Church Murderer's ''Liberty'' and ''rights''.

Bwahahahahahaha!
Chung Tran is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 09:36 PM   #7
The_Waco_Kid
AKA Admiral Waco Kid
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
Posts: 37,009
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chung Tran View Post
He gathered the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers to D.C. I didn't say he told anyone to hang Pence, He said Pence should be hung. You like to parse words, but it doesn't work on me. You should have learned that in the Church shooter thread. I think Trump encouraged the Mob.. You don't. Levianon thinks it was a peaceful protest.

I know Trump authorized the Guard. You are saying the Mob could have been stopped, blaming the Democrats (I guess) for not stopping the crime BEFORE it happened. Which is funny as fuck, that was my position on the Church Shooter. Stop him before he acts. But you argued for days against my view.

Why would there have needed to be more Capitol security upfront? Because just like the Fort Worth Church Murderer, there was much EVIDENCE that a major crime was imminent. You take that position here, to absolve Trump, but you whined for days that I was impeding the Church Murderer's ''Liberty'' and ''rights''.

Bwahahahahahaha!

aren't you always jabbering about stopping crime before it happens? yes u are. it fell to Pelosi to allow the DC police to bring them in. everyone knew there might be a protest. you once again contradict yerself. ther was no foretelling what the asshole in Ft. Worth was going to do. there was about the rally.


Trump didn't summon the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers to come. he encouraged his supporters to come.


who did Trump say Pence should be hanged to?? the crowd? you know he didn't. so who did he say that to? tell me.
The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 09:53 PM   #8
The_Waco_Kid
AKA Admiral Waco Kid
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
Posts: 37,009
Encounters: 1
Default

The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 10:16 PM   #9
eccieuser9500
Valued Poster
 
eccieuser9500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 29, 2013
Location: Milky Way
Posts: 10,914
Encounters: 46
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitaMan View Post
There’s a reason Fox News didn’t want to air this prime-time hearing. What we saw was the truth about January 6 showcased with captivating effectiveness.


This was an excellent first hearing. Speaker Pelosi’s decision to not include Trump sycophants like Rep. Jim Banks (R-IN) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) on the committee has proved worthwhile. There were no belligerent tirades or disinformation-filled deflections. Just the facts.


With hearings scheduled throughout the rest of this month, there are certainly more shoes to drop. What I’m most looking forward to is the final outcome: the recommendations on what should be done.


If any Trump allies did happen to tune in tonight, I hope they heard what Liz Cheney said to them: "There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain."

I completely disagree with your assessment of the hearings. I have to say it, Benny Thompson's opening was a dud. His syntax and diction fell short of effective.

Lizzy though, stole the show. Your last bold statement made the point why no partisan hacks, lapdogs like Jim pedophile peddler Jordan or pedophile Congressman Matt Gaetz, should have been on the committee.









eccieuser9500 is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 11:04 PM   #10
Chung Tran
BANNED
 
Chung Tran's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 5, 2013
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 36,100
Encounters: 288
Default

Waco is such an easy foil.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ittee-1365784/
Chung Tran is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 11:12 PM   #11
eccieuser9500
Valued Poster
 
eccieuser9500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 29, 2013
Location: Milky Way
Posts: 10,914
Encounters: 46
Default

An idiot in charge of the Executive branch who doesn't care about the law?


eccieuser9500 is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 11:21 PM   #12
The_Waco_Kid
AKA Admiral Waco Kid
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
Posts: 37,009
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chung Tran View Post

you do know that disproves your claim Trump told the crowd to hang pence, right?


you should always think before you post.


on second thought don't. you are more fun being stupid.
The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 11:24 PM   #13
Chung Tran
BANNED
 
Chung Tran's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 5, 2013
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 36,100
Encounters: 288
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chung Tran View Post
He wanted to hang his own Vice President
I didn't say Trump told the crowd to hang Pence. Can you fucking read?
Chung Tran is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 11:31 PM   #14
The_Waco_Kid
AKA Admiral Waco Kid
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
Posts: 37,009
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chung Tran View Post
I didn't say Trump told the crowd to hang Pence. Can you fucking read?

so you admit Trump didn't incite any violence thanks for clearing that up
The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 06-10-2022, 11:34 PM   #15
Chung Tran
BANNED
 
Chung Tran's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 5, 2013
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 36,100
Encounters: 288
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid View Post
so you admit Trump didn't incite any violence thanks for clearing that up
No I don't. I said he didn't tell the crowd to hang Pence.

You are going on ignore. You deliberately parse every God Damn thing I post, lie about what I say and think. For sport and amusement. You are not interested in real debate and discussion.
Chung Tran is offline   Quote
Reply



AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved