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09-19-2018, 12:39 PM
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Still think the 'Deep State' doesn't exist? Think again...
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09-19-2018, 03:55 PM
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Stuart Karaffa and Allison Hrabar probably dusted off their resumes today. Hrabar is the one who harassed DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen at a restaurant. Hrabar will probably do some jail time.
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09-19-2018, 11:16 PM
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ALL of those in this and the other Project Veritas videos, showing the leaks, theft, misuse of government property etc, should ALL not just be fired immediately, but JAILED for Subversion!
Subversion is defined as
"A systematic attempt to overthrow or undermine a government or political party, by persons working from within."
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09-20-2018, 08:32 AM
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Sounds like the Steady State, as coined by “amoninous.”
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09-20-2018, 11:13 AM
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09-21-2018, 04:32 PM
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You're fired!
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09-22-2018, 08:19 AM
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The liberal ( socialists ) will deny but the truth hurts
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09-22-2018, 09:36 AM
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Seems like it hurts even if it doesn’t smart!
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09-22-2018, 02:15 PM
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The liberal ( socialists ) will deny but the truth hurts
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There's many who already are, by claiming Veritas are a bunch of liars, frauds and fakers..
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09-22-2018, 04:07 PM
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The liberal ( socialists ) will deny but the truth hurts
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If you think that is anything close to a majority of federal employees, you are wrong. And those who do fit that category SHOULD be removed, and if appropriate, prosecuted.
If you think it's only liberals, you are seriously wrong. There are nut jobs on both ends of the spectrum, and hopefully you are just as upset at the conservatives who pulled the same things in 8 yrs of Obama. But I doubt you are.
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09-22-2018, 05:58 PM
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The liberal ( socialists ) will deny but the truth hurts
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Originally Posted by Old-T
If you think that is anything close to a majority of federal employees, you are wrong. And those who do fit that category SHOULD be removed, and if appropriate, prosecuted.
If you think it's only liberals, you are seriously wrong. There are nut jobs on both ends of the spectrum, and hopefully you are just as upset at the conservatives who pulled the same things in 8 yrs of Obama. But I doubt you are.
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Amazing how you determine all of that from what he posted
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09-23-2018, 05:39 AM
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There are nut jobs on both ends of the spectrum, and hopefully you are just as upset at the conservatives who pulled the same things in 8 yrs of Obama. But I doubt you are.
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This really surprises me, Old-t. I've always thought of you as one of the more logical thinkers here. You do realize how full of shit that theory is, don't you?
Take the current Rosenstein situation, for instance. What if one of Eric Holder's deputys had suggested wearing a wire around Obama? How long do you think they would have lasted at the DOJ? Not too fucking long!
What about when Obama weaponized the IRS against the Tea Party Patriots? No conservative deepstaters leaked that shit to the New York Times. As a matter of fact, getting information out of deep state people like Lois Lerner, Steven Miller, and John Koskinen was like pulling teeth.
If there were any deep state conservatives during the Obama administration I'd sure like to know who they were and what they did. The only reason I can think of as to why we never heard of them is because they must have met some untimely demise somewhere.
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09-23-2018, 07:07 AM
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If you think it's only liberals, you are seriously wrong. There are nut jobs on both ends of the spectrum, and hopefully you are just as upset at the conservatives who pulled the same things in 8 yrs of Obama. But I doubt you are.
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Links...please, because anybody can say anything.
Just need to prove the statements you make so that we confirm
your allegation are founded and not just some senseless rant.
Thank...I'll be patiently waiting
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09-23-2018, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Old-T
If you think that is anything close to a majority of federal employees, you are wrong. And those who do fit that category SHOULD be removed, and if appropriate, prosecuted.
If you think it's only liberals, you are seriously wrong. There are nut jobs on both ends of the spectrum, and hopefully you are just as upset at the conservatives who pulled the same things in 8 yrs of Obama. But I doubt you are.
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I think you are right.
I hope you are right.
If you aren't right about this, then the liberals have screwed the country up even worse than I imagined.
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09-23-2018, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gfejunkie
This really surprises me, Old-t. I've always thought of you as one of the more logical thinkers here. You do realize how full of shit that theory is, don't you?
Take the current Rosenstein situation, for instance. What if one of Eric Holder's deputys had suggested wearing a wire around Obama? How long do you think they would have lasted at the DOJ? Not too fucking long!
What about when Obama weaponized the IRS against the Tea Party Patriots? No conservative deepstaters leaked that shit to the New York Times. As a matter of fact, getting information out of deep state people like Lois Lerner, Steven Miller, and John Koskinen was like pulling teeth.
If there were any deep state conservatives during the Obama administration I'd sure like to know who they were and what they did. The only reason I can think of as to why we never heard of them is because they must have met some untimely demise somewhere.
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there were whistle-blowers who tried to expose this. but many of them were undoubtedly silenced. There were some team players kept their mouths shut and did what the appointed officers directed them to do.
there were few (one that we know of) that broke thru the deep state belt of silence.
gun walking fiasco was one of them.
the tea party suppression by the IRS thing came later. not sure how this was found out.
FBI misconduct on one of their agents.
the obama administration gets rid of or people who are found not to be team players or silence them with threats and harassment. they do this by instituting policy changes that affect the rank and file. the whistle blower law didn't protect them.
best example of agency policy change is the former FBI director Meuler's staffing policy for the Washington desk eliminated many experienced senior FBI agents in the field.
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