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11-30-2017, 10:47 AM
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Fiscal Conservatives Set To Add Trillions To National Debt
So called fiscal conservatives will be adding trillions to our national debt in order to eliminate the estate tax and give huge tax savings to billionaires. Those of you that are not billionaires will of course get screwed, but you deserve it for being suckers. Like Trump says “ conservatives are stupid, just tell them anything and they believe it”. Just like at his rally yesterday when he stood there and told the idiots the tax plan was going to hurt him financially, and the fools clapped for him! Now I get to listen to the suckers defend adding Trillions to the National debt, hahaha fiscal conservatives hahaha right!
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11-30-2017, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by StandinStraight
So called fiscal conservatives will be adding trillions to our national debt in order to eliminate the estate tax and give huge tax savings to billionaires. Those of you that are not billionaires will of course get screwed, but you deserve it for being suckers. Like Trump says “ conservatives are stupid, just tell them anything and they believe it”. Just like at his rally yesterday when he stood there and told the idiots the tax plan was going to hurt him financially, and the fools clapped for him! Now I get to listen to the suckers defend adding Trillions to the National debt, hahaha fiscal conservatives hahaha right!
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Funny how not one of you republitards could respond to this post and in any way defend the massive raising of the national debt by your fellow republitards so that the rich (and that’s not you) can get a tax break and avoid paying estate taxes! Suckers!
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11-30-2017, 10:30 PM
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Liberals won't cut any spending or entitlements.
They will spend every penny and more of the new income pandering for votes.
That's why the National Debt will rise.
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11-30-2017, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by StandinStraight
So called fiscal conservatives will be adding trillions to our national debt in order to eliminate the estate tax and give huge tax savings to billionaires. Those of you that are not billionaires will of course get screwed, but you deserve it for being suckers. Like Trump says “ conservatives are stupid, just tell them anything and they believe it”. Just like at his rally yesterday when he stood there and told the idiots the tax plan was going to hurt him financially, and the fools clapped for him! Now I get to listen to the suckers defend adding Trillions to the National debt, hahaha fiscal conservatives hahaha right!
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Are you a Billionaire?
Jim
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12-01-2017, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDaliLama
Liberals won't cut any spending or entitlements.
They will spend every penny and more of the new income pandering for votes.
That's why the National Debt will rise.
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And notice, how leftists always want to cut our Defense budget, BUT BALK at even the mention of cutting entitlement spending..
Heck, some have even balked at pursuing PROPER FRAUD and abuse measures in welfare/ebt/SSDI.. Cause they whined it "would hurt the poor disadvantaged minorities"..
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12-01-2017, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by StandinStraight
Funny how not one of you republitards could respond to this post and in any way defend the massive raising of the national debt by your fellow republitards so that the rich (and that’s not you) can get a tax break and avoid paying estate taxes! Suckers!
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Funny how you libtards have suddenly gotten religion on the national debt. Where were you when Obama's national debt went from 10.6 trillion to 20 trillion?
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12-01-2017, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDaliLama
Liberals won't cut any spending or entitlements.
They will spend every penny and more of the new income pandering for votes.
That's why the National Debt will rise.
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You think when conservatives are in power....they do not spend like crazy?
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12-01-2017, 09:15 AM
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Looks like they’ve got the votes to start printing money... for Twitler!
Knew this was coming.
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12-01-2017, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by garhkal
And notice, how leftists always want to cut our Defense budget, BUT BALK at even the mention of cutting entitlement spending..
Heck, some have even balked at pursuing PROPER FRAUD and abuse measures in welfare/ebt/SSDI.. Cause they whined it "would hurt the poor disadvantaged minorities"..
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Look you lying/ignorant sack of shit.
Nobody want to cut anything from their side. You think Trump cut the Military Budget?
Of course the folks on the left balk at cutting things like SS and Medicare when it is fully funded and Defense is not , yet you want to add to its budget.
What we should do is have a dedicated tax like SS and Medicare that goes to Defense spending...all of it including research.
See how that goes over.
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12-01-2017, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by WTF
Look you lying/ignorant sack of shit.
Nobody want to cut anything from their side. You think Trump cut the Military Budget?
Of course the folks on the left balk at cutting things like SS and Medicare when it is fully funded and Defense is not , yet you want to add to its budget.
What we should do is have a dedicated tax like SS and Medicare that goes to Defense spending...all of it including research.
See how that goes over.
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Obama cut defense spending but still doubled the debt. He also had the slowest economy in 70yrs. The economy has posted 3 consecutive Qtrs with 3+GDP. With tax reform it will only go higher. Problem solved. Anybody want to bet against it?
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12-01-2017, 11:56 AM
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Yep
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12-01-2017, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bambino
Obama cut defense spending but still doubled the debt. He also had the slowest economy in 70yrs. The economy has posted 3 consecutive Qtrs with 3+GDP. With tax reform it will only go higher. Problem solved. Anybody want to bet against it?
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How many times do you have to be reminded. Obama also took over during the deepest recession in those 70 years. Brought unemployment down from 10% to 4.6%. There were 75 consecutive months of job growth under Obama. 2 million jobs created in 2016 alone. Wage growth went up under Obama. The DJIA tripled. Under Obama, the GDP had 8 quarters where it exceeded 3%. Trump was lucky enough to inherit an economy that was resurrected under Obama and has done a fine job of continuing the upward surge. BTW. Trump currently has 2 consecutive quarters of 3+ GDP., not 3
Regarding the debt.
"The increase in debt in the early years of the Obama administration was largely a response to the imploding economy -- just as the big bulge at the end of the George W. Bush administration (2008) was."
Again, most of the debt under Obama came from having to recover from the recession.
Trump ran the debt up by $7.4 trillion. Bush ran it up by almost $5 trillion. When you look at the share of the US debt in percent, that debt accumulated by Bush is much worse than that accumulated by Obama.
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12-01-2017, 02:11 PM
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Look you lying/ignorant sack of shit. .
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What part of DEFENSE SPending is something the Constitution ORDERS us to do, but there IS NO BLOODY mention of welfare or other entitlements is hard to grasp??
OH and cause of your penchant for personal insults, congrats, you have joined Yssup on my ignore list...
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12-01-2017, 02:15 PM
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I am wondering where you think these fiscal conservatives are? They sure do not exist in our government except for the very rare one or two.
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12-01-2017, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
Trump ran the debt up by $7.4 trillion. Bush ran it up by almost $5 trillion. When you look at the share of the US debt in percent, that debt accumulated by Bush is much worse than that accumulated by Obama.

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What have you been smoking today, speedy? Re-read the above. You say Trump has run the debt up by $7.4 trillion? Is that a typo or are you being delusional?
And your pie chart is laughably out-of-date. It's been years since the debt was only $14.3 trillion. Odumbo blew right through that number on his way to $20 trillion. You need to find an up-to-date allocation that tracks the amount of debt added from the day each POTUS is sworn in (Jan. 20) until the day his successor arrives. I've seen too many dishonest libtards try to put fiscal year 2009 entirely on Bush's plate, when 2/3 of of that period fell on Obama's watch.
Any honest and up-to-date accounting will show that nearly 50% of today's debt was added under the 8 years of Obama's tenure.
I'm not going to look this one up for you. I'll give you the chance to correct yourself and set the record straight.
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