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JackJohnson · 04-13-2011, 08:06 PM

LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Services are not solicited to, nor will they be accepted by, anyone under the age of 18. donations for legal adult personal services listed is simply for time, modeling and companionship. Anything else that may or may not occur happens with regard to individual choice and individual preferences between two or more consenting adults of legal age. Such choices are not contracted for or requested to be contracted for in any manner. This is not an offer of prostitution. By contacting me (either through phone or email) you agree to these terms and hereby agree that you are not part of any law enforcement agency using this advertisement for entrapment or for arrest. This is a contract you agree to by contacting me.

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Dear Providers,

This will never protect you in court, any contract made for in regards to an illegal act is void. In addition, entrapment is an affirmative defense that has nothing to do with what you post, its about the law enforcement official's behavior. Specifically they have to get you to do an illegal act you wouldnt have done had they not put you in the position to (thats very simplistic). Lastly, they won't ever arrest you based on an ad.

An advertisement is only an offer to negotiate, over what is your business.

FYI, no criminal case is ever thrown out based on, Hey - I know he was a cop, but he agreed when he answered my ad he agreed and contracted not to be a law enforcement officer. LEOs can lie, or how would they ever have undercover narcotic agents.

I know, this might just be for boilerplate and not taken seriously (or maybe its to convince clients that the provider isn't a LEO - which makes sense if you're running a sting), however I hope that providers don't tack this on to their ads seriously thinking that it offers up a defense when one is arrested on a prostitution charge.

It's not a magic disclaimer, not saying it serves NO purpose at all, but just making sure that providers aren't depending on it, or thinking that this somehow absolves them of being arrested. That would be misplaced faith.

(I remember this discussion a long time ago, but meh... I read this and kinda snickered at the agreeing to a contract part... lol... Its an ad, not a contract, and its not going to make a judge throw out a case

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Just contributing to the dialgoue.

JJ

FireSerpent · 04-13-2011, 08:30 PM

For the record, I think most ladies know this... it is a way of putting an ADT sign out on your house even though you don't have an alarm. Some do that to say, "hey, I'm not working with LE so it is ok to contact me." Most experienced people, don't care one way or another about such disclaimers... they do the leg work to find out if they are legit in other ways.

KCQuestor · 04-13-2011, 11:05 PM

In other news:

Cops can touch your boob.
Asking for 100 kisses doesn't mean they can't arrest you.
If you sell a pencil for $100 and throw in a free concert ticket, it's still scalping.
Cops don't have to stop at the state or county line when chasing you.
The cops don't have to read your Miranda rights when they take you into custody, just when they interrogate you.
Everyone does NOT get one free phone call when arrested.
CSI is a freaking television show.

Thequeen · 04-14-2011, 12:07 AM

Questor~
You mean everything I see on CSI and Law and order are not true???? OMG Where is my tin foil hat!!!!!! lol

Allie_Kat · 04-14-2011, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCQuestor

In other news:

Cops can touch your boob.
Asking for 100 kisses doesn't mean they can't arrest you.
If you sell a pencil for $100 and throw in a free concert ticket, it's still scalping.
Cops don't have to stop at the state or county line when chasing you.
The cops don't have to read your Miranda rights when they take you into custody, just when they interrogate you.
Everyone does NOT get one free phone call when arrested.
CSI is a freaking television show.

+1

guest010313 · 04-14-2011, 10:26 AM

LOL

Yah this is one of those things that cracks me the fuck up. Along with the "It was only a dream" that you men are so fond of using.

No prosecutor in the world is going to say "Oh I had you dead to rights but your sneaky disclaimer invalidates it all! Noooooo!"

Sens55 · 04-14-2011, 10:28 AM

All good points. I had a girl the other day tell me that if you asked a cop if he was a cop, and he said no and arrested you, it'd get thrown out of court because he lied. I laughed so hard I fell off my chair. She BELIEVED this. She was adamant. She told me her cousin's, sister's friend is an attorney and told her so.

I didn't even try to tell her the truth. She wouldn't believe me if I did. Bottom line, they can do anything they want to get you, if they want to. Some PD's do not allow the officers to touch or get naked. Others do. Hell, I was flipping channels the other day and they had "Alaska State Police" or something like that and the PD was doing a sting and they come busting in to arrest the girl and had to blur the picture because the cop was putting his pants back on....ON PRIME TIME TV! Dunno if he got a pop in before he popped her though...

Kaboom · 04-14-2011, 05:13 PM

That "dream" stuff is annoying at best. And the code some use for the monetary value is just so unnecessary, and does a better job of confusing than informing.

Sens55 · 04-14-2011, 06:47 PM

I agree. Just say it aready. Leo has the decoder ring. He bought his Cracker Jacks.

JackJohnson · 04-14-2011, 10:02 PM

I had a provider tell me once that if they got the hobbyist naked first then that was entrapment if they got arrested. Why? Because the nakedness entrapped them into providing.

Provider-lawyers. Just say no

MsElena · 04-15-2011, 12:14 AM

Hobbyist-lawyers. Just say no.

There's a reason why smart providers like myself have an attorney on retainer. I'll take my advice from him.

Muffrider · 04-15-2011, 09:10 AM

Think of yourself sitting on a jury. Would the disclaimer dissuade you from finding that she intended to sell herself for money after viewing the third close-up "beaver shot" in her ad titled, "$$$$ For Your Pleasure"?

If anything, the ad would make me conclude that she had knowledge and intent of criminal activity.

Fsn57 · 04-15-2011, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaboom

That "dream" stuff is annoying at best. ....

+1
That "dream stuff" comes across as being just plain silly to me, much more so than the "legal disclaimer".

KCQuestor · 04-16-2011, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaboom

That "dream" stuff is annoying at best. And the code some use for the monetary value is just so unnecessary, and does a better job of confusing than informing.

Ugh, I hate that money code with a passion.

The other day I was looking at restaurant reviews and the site I was looking at used a symbol code for estimating pricing. The place I was looking at was listed as "$$$" and my first thought was "$300 for dinner?!?". Then I realized that just means "Moderately expensive".

Omahan · 04-16-2011, 06:09 PM

[quote=KCQuestor;1212369] my first thought was "$300 for dinner?!?". /quote]

For $300 it better taste like pussy!