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11-29-2016, 05:39 PM
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User ID: 132051
Join Date: Apr 25, 2012
Location: Wichita, Kansas
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Haggling Rates
To some, this subject is a no-brainer, but I thought I would touch base on it anyways. Lately, I've been hearing about gentlemen trying to talk providers down on their rates, & I've even been dealing with it myself. For most of us, this lifestyle is our way of paying our bills & supporting our families, & we find it HIGHLY offensive when a gentleman tries to talk us into dropping $100 off of our original rates for a "phenomenal review" or my personal favorite, "Because I'm hot & you will have a great time with me". If you see we are not offering specials, it is NOT okay to try to haggle us on our donations. How would you feel if someone came to your job & basically implied they don't feel like what you do is worth what you charge, but if you dropped your price by so much, they'll work with you? I'm sure you would be a little upset too, especially if you took pride in what you did & you have reviews to show that. Fact of the matter is, there's plenty of women in this line of work to choose from, all with different rates & menus. If you don't like what one of us charge, you can surely find someone within your "budget".
End of story.
I hope everyone has a blessed day!
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11-29-2016, 05:47 PM
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Registered Member
Join Date: Aug 25, 2016
Location: on the road
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I have a set amount in my mind, i ask if its within that range then lets have some fun. For the record i haven't found a price not worth paying yet, maybe i look at things different. I have even been, for lack of a better term not treated fairly by a provider here, meh, her loss i won't be calling back.
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11-29-2016, 05:50 PM
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Join Date: Nov 23, 2016
Location: north KCMO
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Does it offend if you ask a provider if they are running any specials?
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11-29-2016, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bamscram
Does it offend if you ask a provider if they are running any specials?
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It's not offensive if you ask if she is running any specials. But, if she tells you that she's not running specials & you tell her if she knocks $100 off her rate, you'll write her a good review that will "have all the business coming", that's rude. But then again, that's just my stand point. Every provider looks at things differently. I'm just speaking my mind.
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11-29-2016, 07:01 PM
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Join Date: Apr 22, 2009
Location: Somewhere East
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Reviews are not quid pro quo.
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Originally Posted by Kat VonDee
It's not offensive if you ask if she is running any specials. But, if she tells you that she's not running specials & you tell her if she knocks $100 off her rate, you'll write her a good review that will "have all the business coming", that's rude. But then again, that's just my stand point. Every provider looks at things differently. I'm just speaking my mind.
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Just my take on things: after everything is over, and I have got my coat and heading for the door (almost as an afterthought) I have asked a lady if she would like for me to write a review for her. The only problem I have had with that is one lady sent me a message a week later asking if I had forgotten. I immediately got the job done. Reviews can help, but they are given freely, they should not be quid pro quo.
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11-29-2016, 08:21 PM
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Join Date: Jul 27, 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Providers are no different than any other service providers when it comes to payment.
I can ask a local building contractor if they have any discounts available and if they say no, I either take their advertised rate or look elsewhere. Haggling does not foster a good business relationship.
In the hobby world this is even more true. What provider offers is more than a service that a building contractor provides....At the end of the day, it is a very personal and intimate agreement made between two consenting adults which should be conducted with the level of inter personal respect the services being offered demands. Haggling a few $$ off with excuses equivalent to cheap pick up lines is tacky, disrespectful and cheapens (pardon the pun) the experience.
Agree with JR on reviews. For me, I offer them as a way to share information and express my thoughts on an experience with fellow hobbyists, not as means to get a discounted rate. If a provider is advertising a review discount I will take her up on it, but if it's not being offered, asking for one is outside the boundaries of courteousy and respect IMHO.
If you can't afford what the provider is offering, even after a respectful inquiry on a "special", move on. Anything less is disrespectful.
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11-29-2016, 08:32 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Sep 11, 2016
Location: Kansas City
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The market is full of providers. If you can not or do not want to pay the amount listed, look elsewhere. Still shocks me that this is such a big problem.
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11-29-2016, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Davidian1980
Providers are no different than any other service providers when it comes to payment.
I can ask a local building contractor if they have any discounts available and if they say no, I either take their advertised rate or look elsewhere. Haggling does not foster a good business relationship.
In the hobby world this is even more true. What provider offers is more than a service that a building contractor provides....At the end of the day, it is a very personal and intimate agreement made between two consenting adults which should be conducted with the level of inter personal respect the services being offered demands. Haggling a few $$ off with excuses equivalent to cheap pick up lines is tacky, disrespectful and cheapens (pardon the pun) the experience.
Agree with JR on reviews. For me, I offer them as a way to share information and express my thoughts on an experience with fellow hobbyists, not as means to get a discounted rate. If a provider is advertising a review discount I will take her up on it, but if it's not being offered, asking for one is outside the boundaries of courteousy and respect IMHO.
If you can't afford what the provider is offering, even after a respectful inquiry on a "special", move on. Anything less is disrespectful.
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11-29-2016, 09:20 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2, 2013
Location: abroad
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Be about it, gentlemen. If she doesn't publish rates you are willing to pay, move to the next. Those accepting the coin in your pocket could be a satisfactory experience but chances are you can save that honorarium and next time you have the time to spend with a more exclusive provider will be more than worth it.
Obviously there are other considerations than just monetary cost, so do be judicious with your investment in the hobby.
Ladies, I have a great appreciation for the screening you do to be comfortable during our shared time.
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11-29-2016, 10:31 PM
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Join Date: Feb 5, 2016
Location: Kansas City
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Preach
I think I could add on to this but I might just be preaching to the choir for all of us here. So I'll leave this here for you all to enjoy (especially after you've just hung up on a haggler).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n3LL338aGA
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11-29-2016, 10:42 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Nov 27, 2016
Location: KC
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This can be an expensive hobby. The worst thing a provider can say is no, but if you must negiotate always opt for a qv very short term. If you a regular thats your best bet. As for me im more concerned about gfe than rates. If I cant swimg it i just set asside savings. After 3 or 4 months i shoud have enough
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11-29-2016, 11:33 PM
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Join Date: May 10, 2016
Location: KS/MO/Travel
Posts: 178
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Ok, it's expensive...do your homework, pick a date. make it happen. Everyone has to have some kind of code. Be a gentleman and have integrity always. I'm not gonna talk $$ with a girl. It's posted somewhere. The fun and excitement of meeting a new girl and having a mind blowing experience is there each time but the risk you take to enjoy it is the rate. Dont buy a sports car if you can't afford it. Don't see the girl if you cannot afford it. If you can't afford it, as you will be not satisfied bc of how hard you worked to make $200, $300, $400, whatever is so high that the expectation becomes hard for a woman to meet. Certainly had my share of feeling the value wasn't there...I got over it...btw, ATFs get rewarded bc they go the extra mile for you, not negotiated down. Seems like common sense, right?
KVD, I love the "I'm so awesome, you'll want to give me a discount" or something to that effect. That cracks me up. Get real y'all. If I were to get paid for my "awesomeness" my showcase would be a major hilarity and my rate would probably be around minimum wage. If you are so great buddy, go build that showcase and see how many ladies bite.
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11-30-2016, 10:21 AM
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Join Date: Feb 11, 2011
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Some people can't abide paying Starbucks their price when QuikTrip is down the street, but 3 bills for this particular cup seems about right:
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11-30-2016, 10:52 AM
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Join Date: Apr 22, 2009
Location: Somewhere East
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Ok, it's expensive...do your homework, pick a date. make it happen. .....
The fun and excitement of meeting a new girl and having a mind blowing experience is there each time but the risk you take to enjoy it is the rate. Dont buy a sports car if you can't afford it. Don't see the girl if you cannot afford it. If you can't afford it, as you will be not satisfied bc of how hard you worked to make $200, $300, $400, whatever is so high that the expectation becomes hard for a woman to meet. '..........
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Recently, I did my homework on a lady and expected that the $350 fee would bring an exceptional experience. I didn't question the price.
I was quite disappointed. A high price does not guarantee the expected results.
I have had much better for $10; but, that was in the early 70s. Prices have gone up since then. But I am still thinking about a negative review.
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11-30-2016, 10:54 AM
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Join Date: Oct 10, 2013
Location: here there everywhere
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Jesus - I think I may start drinking starbucks coffee...
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