Hillary Clinton VP pick: Sen. Tim Kaine will be announced as Democratic running mate: Reports

[SassySue]

Looks like she is choosing Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia for Vice President. I think he is a good choice. He will probably pick up a lot of the male vote and some conservative republican votes.

Full article (just a few hours ago):

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201...ck_sen_ti.html

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SassySue

Looks like she is choosing Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia for Vice President. I think he is a good choice. He will probably pick up a lot of the male vote and some conservative republican votes.

Full article (just a few hours ago):

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201...ck_sen_ti.html

Not in Virginia.

[nevergaveitathought]

his baggage to dim voters is that he's "personally troubled" by abortion

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

his baggage to dim voters is that he's "personally troubled" by abortion

..have you had an opportunity to listen to the miners talk about Democrats?

Steel workers also!

..The "bosses" can't control the memberships. They've been in bed too long with the "establishment" Democrats. Also, the AFL-CIO was livid at Bill Clinton in 2000 ... and they have long term memories. Bill's Wife is being Bill's Wife in an attempt to "upsell" her "credentials" based on Bill's "legacy" in the media, which puts Bill's reality in issue and play for the next 2-3 months!

If you were watching Trump's speech did you notice his look when he said:

"Nobody knows the system better than me, which is why I alone can fix it. I have seen firsthand how the system is rigged against our citizens, just like it was rigged against Bernie Sanders – he never had a chance."

He was talking to Hillary Rodham Clinton. She knows he knows!

That's why she didn't want him as her opponent this fall. He knows the skeletons.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

his baggage to dim voters is that he's "personally troubled" by abortion

.. I'm beginning to believe this year that "abortion" is way down on the list.

A consistent approach is for Trump/Pence to take a "state's rights" position.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Not in Virginia.

I'm interested into why you say that. Not arguing with you.

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by SassySue

Looks like she is choosing Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia for Vice President. I think he is a good choice. He will probably pick up a lot of the male vote and some conservative republican votes.

Full article (just a few hours ago):

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201...ck_sen_ti.html

That's wishful thinking. White men will forget all about what a dispicable human being Hillary is because she puts a liberal white guy on the ticket.

White men wouldn't vote for Hillary if she offered a BBBJ, with a swallow, AND a paper bag with one hole.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

..have you had an opportunity to listen to the miners talk about Democrats?

Steel workers also!

..The "bosses" can't control the memberships. They've been in bed too long with the "establishment" Democrats. Also, the AFL-CIO was livid at Bill Clinton in 2000 ... and they have long term memories. Bill's Wife is being Bill's Wife in an attempt to "upsell" her "credentials" based on Bill's "legacy" in the media, which puts Bill's reality in issue and play for the next 2-3 months!

If you were watching Trump's speech did you notice his look when he said:

"Nobody knows the system better than me, which is why I alone can fix it. I have seen firsthand how the system is rigged against our citizens, just like it was rigged against Bernie Sanders – he never had a chance."

He was talking to Hillary Rodham Clinton. She knows he knows!

That's why she didn't want him as her opponent this fall. He knows the skeletons.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I'm interested into why you say that. Not arguing with you.

I heard it put like this (paraphrase): We've waited on the Democrats' promises for too long, and keep voting for them. It's time to give someone else a chance.

Trump spoke directly to "them" last night! Miners, domestic fossil fuel developers, and factory workers. He's been visiting with them, and listening. His opponent has been talking to aids, and ass-kissing errand boys.

On an energy note: Do you think he'll undo the Clinton-Russian uranium deal?

Has his opponent spent a lot of time around the border areas? Trump has. Same thing.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

That's wishful thinking. White men will forget all about what a dispicable human being Hillary is because she puts a liberal white guy on the ticket.

White men wouldn't vote for Hillary if she offered a BBBJ, with a swallow, AND a paper bag with one hole.

Romney won about 60% of the white vote in 2012. And I would bet more than 60% of the MALE white vote. And lost. The number of white male voters has shrunk percentage-wise since 2012. A lot of young, white male voters were pro-Bernie and now that he is gone, do you think these voters will move to Clinton or Trump?

So I would say that Clinton will do no worse with white male voters than Obama did.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Romney won about 60% of the white vote in 2012. And I would bet more than 60% of the MALE white vote. And lost. The number of white male voters has shrunk percentage-wise since 2012. A lot of young, white male voters were pro-Bernie and now that he is gone, do you think these voters will move to Clinton or Trump?

So I would say that Clinton will do no worse with white male voters than Obama did.

A few things. Some of the predictions in the "bean counting" come from "exit polling" in the prior elections. The most telling example of their unreliability is the 2004 decision by John Kerry to skip an Ohio election day stop and go on to Boston in preparation of the "Victory Party"! That decision was base on "exit polling" that he was going to carry Ohio.

Secondly, the DNC is not done.

Thirdly, the only way one can determine "comparative shifts" is to poll using the same data base so that trends in attitude can be more accurately tracked. It is going to also depend on the questions asked in the following interviews and the tone of the person asking.

Fourth, the same "pollsters" and "pundits" predicting the current status as it relates to the general election were also the ones predicting a year ago that Trump didn't have a chance. At each "misstep" or "error" it was the same .... he's "toast"! Even in that same sample group he's within the margin of error!

Doesn't sound like "toast" to me when going up against the "heir apparent"!

I hope the Hillary camp relies on the "old assumptions" ...

... the U.S. Navy did at Pearl Harbor!

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

A few things. Some of the predictions in the "bean counting" come from "exit polling" in the prior elections. The most telling example of their unreliability is the 2004 decision by John Kerry to skip an Ohio election day stop and go on to Boston in preparation of the "Victory Party"! That decision was base on "exit polling" that he was going to carry Ohio.

Secondly, the DNC is not done.

Thirdly, the only way one can determine "comparative shifts" is to poll using the same data base so that trends in attitude can be more accurately tracked. It is going to also depend on the questions asked in the following interviews and the tone of the person asking.

Fourth, the same "pollsters" and "pundits" predicting the current status as it relates to the general election were also the ones predicting a year ago that Trump didn't have a chance. At each "misstep" or "error" it was the same .... he's "toast"! Even in that same sample group he's within the margin of error!

Doesn't sound like "toast" to me when going up against the "heir apparent"!

I hope the Hillary camp relies on the "old assumptions" ...

... the U.S. Navy did at Pearl Harbor!

With the resulting results OF Pearl Harbor , sunk at the piers !

[Sistine Chapel]

If I'm not mistaken Tim Kaine went to Harvard with Obama. I do know they are good friends. Tim is a smart guy and regardless of which way you lean he will clean Mike Pence's clock in the VP debate. It was a smart move by Hillary to one-up Trump's VP pick. Tim Kaine knows his shit.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

A few things. Some of the predictions in the "bean counting" come from "exit polling" in the prior elections. The most telling example of their unreliability is the 2004 decision by John Kerry to skip an Ohio election day stop and go on to Boston in preparation of the "Victory Party"! That decision was base on "exit polling" that he was going to carry Ohio.

Secondly, the DNC is not done.

Thirdly, the only way one can determine "comparative shifts" is to poll using the same data base so that trends in attitude can be more accurately tracked. It is going to also depend on the questions asked in the following interviews and the tone of the person asking.

Fourth, the same "pollsters" and "pundits" predicting the current status as it relates to the general election were also the ones predicting a year ago that Trump didn't have a chance. At each "misstep" or "error" it was the same .... he's "toast"! Even in that same sample group he's within the margin of error!

Doesn't sound like "toast" to me when going up against the "heir apparent"!

I hope the Hillary camp relies on the "old assumptions" ...

... the U.S. Navy did at Pearl Harbor!

Let me ask you a question -- do you disagree with the statement that in 2012 approximately 60% of white people voted for Kerry? He got his votes from somewhere, and it is doubtful it was from blacks and Hispanics.

Polls are hardly an exact science. The American public predicted a year ago that Trump didn't have a chance. I doubt many on this board took Trump seriously a year ago and today they do. You cited a poll that was incorrect. Yet how many times have exit polls been absolutely correct? The last time I can remember an exit poll being incorrect in a Presidential election was back in 2000 when Gore was declared the winner in Florida. Then Bush was declared the winner. Then maybe Gore again. Point is that with a handful of exceptions, such exit polls have been extremely accurate.

[Yssup Rider]

The Drumpf is a great friend to labor.

In fact union members have been seen in Atlantic City holding up signs that mention him ...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHSASSS!

[TheDaliLama]

Kaine and Unable/2016