Asian Providers: Human trafficking?

[direwolf17]

I've seen many postings of Asian providers. Some have been here for years; some are gone in a week. Are these women victims of trafficking? Asian gangs reportedly have stables of these young ladies. I've not booked with any, and don't plan to. My suspicions may be unfounded, and I apologize in advance for refusing the services provided by providers.
The hobby should be an even playing field with consenting, libertine adults participating as long as no harm comes with this. Consenting adults have a right to do whatever they choose, but I choose not to support possible human trafficking.

[Sir Hardin Thicke]

If that's your assumption then you've made your decision to stay away, so why are you asking us? If you want a definitive answer then contact LE.

[Bob McV]

why are you only worried about the Asians? I am guessing you watched a documentary or something? There is a possibility anyone you see is such a victim.

In the big picture, I have to admit that I sometimes wonder if the Asian trafficking victim is better or worse off that then Asian iPhone assembler....

[Toyz]

Hey DW, seriously. What led you to that conclusion? I'm just interested,. Was there a 60 minutes episode or something you saw?

I mean, we see pimps at work here everyday with wave after wave of new girls arriving monthly, not many Asians in those harems though. But we've never heard of them being a part of trafficking.

Interesting subject....

[direwolf17]

I've seen multiple expose's on human trafficking. Many are about former Eastern Bloc countries run by Russian mafia. Some have been about girls from Thailand. I don't wanna even chance an encounter with an exploited person, and it seems it should be the woman's choice whether she is better off assembling iPhones rather than be a coerced prostitute, and not a Texas monger's. I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh either because I don't support assholes. To truly independent Asian providers, please Pm me. My karma matters to me. I'd rather support a local single mom or roadrunner independent, but no Asian who's unable to say anything but "You Numba One" in English I'll pass muster for me.

[Windinhishair]

Originally Posted by direwolf17

I've seen multiple expose's on human trafficking. Many are about former Eastern Bloc countries run by Russian mafia. Some have been about girls from Thailand. I don't wanna even chance an encounter with an exploited person, and it seems it should be the woman's choice whether she is better off assembling iPhones rather than be a coerced prostitute, and not a Texas monger's. I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh either because I don't support assholes. To truly independent Asian providers, please Pm me. My karma matters to me. I'd rather support a local single mom or roadrunner independent, but no Asian who's unable to say anything but "You Numba One" in English I'll pass muster for me.

The term exploited is a pretty gray area. Few would disagree that victims of human trafficking are being exploited. Most would also agree that any provider managed by a pimp is a victim of exploitation.

There are a great many young white girls being exploited by pimps on Eccie.

Do you actually believe that no Hispanic girls are victims of human trafficking with the Mexican border being only a few hours away?

In fact one can go even further and state that all young providers who have "chosen" this route due to a history of sexual abuse or hard financial times or who have a child to support with no job prospects are all victims of exploitation by old fat horny rich guys.

You can fool yourself into thinking you are "helping them out" by using their bodies as sperm depositories but that is BS monger logic.
We are without question sexually exploiting young ladies during a very confusing and financially desperate period of their lives.

You wanna "help her out" then pay her rent or buy her diapers without making her suck your cock. Sponsor an education which will secure her a future with dignity. Give her a job that doesn't involve degrading herself.

You'd be hard pressed to find many ladies who always knew they wanted to be hookers.

The rest of the providers including the consenting ones are at the very least being objectified by old fat horny rich guys.

I guess you draw your line at the Asian ones. Not very logical IMHO but then again who gives a fuck about logic on a fuck board?

[nbnsennbn1]

DW : It appears the good and opinionated folks of eccie are not going to help answer your question/concern.

Here is mine: I do value your concern and one can usually tell by the vibe of the place or person as to what may be happening behind the scenes. But there is not sure way to know unless to probe further, as some establishments do a good job of masking the truth.

[Windinhishair]

Originally Posted by nbnsennbn1

DW : It appears the good and opinionated folks of eccie are not going to help answer your question/concern.

Here is mine: I do value your concern and one can usually tell by the vibe of the place or person as to what may be happening behind the scenes. But there is not sure way to know unless to probe further, as some establishments do a good job of masking the truth.

There was no question or concern. He stated he has never seen nor will ever see an Asian provider because they are most likely being exploited being Asian and all.
Where exactly is the question in his statement? Where exactly is the concern regarding the general exploitation of providers?

He opened a dialogue. I would imagine everyone with an opinion in an open dialogue would qualify as being opinionated. Agreed?

BTW where have you been all these years? We've missed you. Love the red stripe hat.

[nbnsennbn1]

Are these women victims of trafficking?

Thank you for confirming my concern that the good people of eccie want to be heard more than want to answer a question. BTW concern does not have a punctuation unlike the question mark. Not that it matters I suppose.

Sorry DW, it's no longer about your question - that is if you had any in the 1st place. I am confused myself, but not as much concerned that this thread will not end here. But this will be my last say on this - I hope !!

[pussycat]

Human trafficking is where a girl is lured by fraud into going to another country where her passport is taken and she's held against her will in a facility where she's used as a slave. The only groups who do this in the United States are criminal groups from eastern Europe such as from the Russian Federation, Albania, Ukraine, and these places.

The girls from Asia are not "trafficked" by criminal gangs but are operated in a simple business way with no fraud or coercion involved. The girls volunteer to come to the United States or other places and are paid an agreed compensation. Sometimes they arrive owing a $30,000 debt as a fee for having brought them here, but this is a voluntary contract and they are able to pay it off quickly.

There is human trafficking in Asia, but this involves underage girls from Cambodia enslaved in brothels in Thailand, or similar situations in some of the Pacific Islands, but these girls are almost never brought to the U.S.

There have been many false claims made about "human trafficking" by groups raising money and sticking it in their own pockets. There have been examples of women raising money for this "cause" who claimed to have been trafficking victims and it turned out later they'd been exposed as frauds.

Be careful anytime you see in the media claims made about this horrible thing or that horrible thing. Many times the people behind these claims are collecting money promising to save the victims when they're just con artists.

[Toyz]

Originally Posted by pussycat

Human trafficking is where a girl is lured by fraud into going to another country where her passport is taken and she's held against her will in a facility where she's used as a slave. The only groups who do this in the United States are criminal groups from eastern Europe such as from the Russian Federation, Albania, Ukraine, and these places.

The girls from Asia are not "trafficked" by criminal gangs but are operated in a simple business way with no fraud or coercion involved. The girls volunteer to come to the United States or other places and are paid an agreed compensation. Sometimes they arrive owing a $30,000 debt as a fee for having brought them here, but this is a voluntary contract and they are able to pay it off quickly.

There is human trafficking in Asia, but this involves underage girls from Cambodia enslaved in brothels in Thailand, or similar situations in some of the Pacific Islands, but these girls are almost never brought to the U.S.

There have been many false claims made about "human trafficking" by groups raising money and sticking it in their own pockets. There have been examples of women raising money for this "cause" who claimed to have been trafficking victims and it turned out later they'd been exposed as frauds.

Be careful anytime you see in the media claims made about this horrible thing or that horrible thing. Many times the people behind these claims are collecting money promising to save the victims when they're just con artists.

On point comments PC. Thanks. I've seen a few Asians in my time and that's what I get...they seem happier than most i n what they are doing although they tend to move from city to city

Imagine what a horrible job that is...Travelling for a living. New York, Austin, San Francisco...must suck when not working to be on such terrible places.

[direwolf17]

There are assholes everywhere, pimps, cartel guys running girls. As I said in my initial post, the coercion is the issue. Russian gal wants to invest the 30k, all well and good. She consented. Lotsa reasons providers are out there, and I imagine very few of those do it simply as a hobby, just like mongers do, but get paid, like a provider.
To clarify again, in my second post I asked independent Asians to PM me. I like most all flavors of candy. All I'm saying is I'll pass if I get a sniff of a pimp, manager, or any of the ilk. The few funds I now have to play with, we'll be exploiting each other's bodies, but for different reasons; a nut and a buck.
As long as she's sober, over 18, not mentally impaired in full possession of her capacities, no sweat, though I prefer the 30ish-40ish providers. Ya'll do what you can live with and I'll do the same.
Nuff said by me. Except that I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, and know you can't believe everything reported as news in any medium. Hell, they killed of Willie a coupla weeks ago. Willie denied it.

[Toyz]

Originally Posted by direwolf17

There are assholes everywhere, pimps, cartel guys running girls. As I said in my initial post, the coercion is the issue. Russian gal wants to invest the 30k, all well and good. She consented. Lotsa reasons providers are out there, and I imagine very few of those do it simply as a hobby, just like mongers do, but get paid, like a provider.
To clarify again, in my second post I asked independent Asians to PM me. I like most all flavors of candy. All I'm saying is I'll pass if I get a sniff of a pimp, manager, or any of the ilk. The few funds I now have to play with, we'll be exploiting each other's bodies, but for different reasons; a nut and a buck.
As long as she's sober, over 18, not mentally impaired in full possession of her capacities, no sweat, though I prefer the 30ish-40ish providers. Ya'll do what you can live with and I'll do the same.
Nuff said by me. Except that I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, and know you can't believe everything reported as news in any medium. Hell, they killed of Willie a coupla weeks ago. Willie denied it.

DW I was just interested by your topic & thought we had a good communication going with some varied opinions on the subject.

[direwolf17]

Sorry my thought wasn't complete enuff initially. I was tired. Ima have my fun with whom I choose and choose in as kind a way as I'm able. The provider will receive equal kindness. AS Mr Keen says, I only use my metaphoric guns whenever kindness fails.

[Toyz]

Originally Posted by direwolf17

Sorry my thought wasn't complete enuff initially. I was tired. Ima have my fun with whom I choose and choose in as kind a way as I'm able. The provider will receive equal kindness. AS Mr Keen says, I only use my metaphoric guns whenever kindness fails.

No issue. I AGREE that if I knew a girl was involved in that no way I would engage. I doubt anyone with a legit handle or that is legitimately seeing any active girls on eccie would either.

Can't speak for the fake ones...they don't have any integrity anyway so I wouldn't trust them in any scenario. Trafficking, underage....anything.