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[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Tiny

...Flynn got fucked. He should never have been prosecuted. I don't think it was necessarily done for political ends though....

Whut?!? What in the ever living fvck was not political about it? And Russia? Any of it?

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

radicals on both sides? you're talking about the left wing dpst commies and Fascists. who's the other side? right wing radicals? who would that be?

I don't doubt that Radical anarchists ( O/W 'right-wing') are involved in fomenting riots, just as are Left-wing marxist sympathizers.

how much is "White supremacists" involved - not a lot - not like them to be side by side with a perceived enemy.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Undoubtedly there were people like Strzok and Page investigating Trump and associates who had a political bias. I suspect Comey did not, initially at least prior to working for President Trump. In 2016 he said he was a registered Republican most of his adult life.



But nobody thought Donald Trump was a Republican in any sense of the word and most, like myself, just didn't personally like the man. I too was leaning towards Kasich but backed off of him in the end as being to wishy washy.


It's just the way he rolls. He has a history of entrapping people. Here are some passages from an old Wall Street Journal article, when Obama nominated him to become FBI director.

Any potential FBI director deserves scrutiny, since the position has so much power and is susceptible to ruinous misjudgments and abuse. That goes double with Mr. Comey, a nominee who seems to think the job of the federal bureaucracy is to oversee elected officials, not the other way around, and who had his own hand in some of the worst prosecutorial excesses of the last decade.

The list includes his overzealous pursuit, as U.S. Attorney for New York's Southern District, of banker Frank Quattrone amid the post-Enron political frenzy of 2003. Mr. Comey never did indict Mr. Quattrone on banking-related charges, but charged him instead with obstruction of justice and witness tampering based essentially on a single ambiguous email.

Mr. Comey's first trial against Mr. Quattrone ended in a hung jury; he won a conviction on a retrial but that conviction was overturned on appeal in 2006. This May, the Quattrone Center for the Fair Administration of Justice was launched at the University of Pennsylvania thanks to a $15 million gift from the banker, perhaps with Mr. Comey partly in mind.

There is also Mr. Comey's 2004 role as deputy attorney general in the Aipac case, in which the FBI sought to use bogus "secret" information to entrap two lobbyists for the pro-Israel group and then prosecuted them under the 1917 Espionage Act. The Justice Department dropped that case in 2009 after it fell apart in court—but not before wrecking the lives of the two lobbyists, Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman.

Or the atrocious FBI investigation, harassment and trial-by-media of virologist Steven Jay Hatfill, falsely suspected of being behind the 2001 anthrax mail attacks. Mr. Comey continued to vouchsafe the strength of the case against Dr. Hatfill in internal Administration deliberations long after it had become clear that the FBI had fingered the wrong man. Dr. Hatfill ultimately won a $5.8 million settlement from the Justice Department.

His involvement in the political process, which occurred in 2016 when he came out with announcements that first favored Hillary Clinton and later Donald Trump, also had a precedent. Richard Armitrage gets off scot free, and Scooter Libby is unjustly convicted and spends 30 months in jail, as a result of an investigation that Comey kicked off:

Then there's Mr. Comey's role in the investigation of the leak of Valerie Plame's identity as a CIA employee. Mr. Comey first encouraged Mr. Ashcroft to recuse himself in naming a special counsel on grounds that the AG could run into a conflict of interest if the investigation implicated Karl Rove.

Whereupon Mr. Comey gave the job to Patrick Fitzgerald, a close personal friend. Unlike independent counsels under the now defunct statute, a special counsel is supposed to be under the Justice Department's supervision, and it would be interesting to hear Mr. Comey explain how appointing the godfather of one of his children to a high-profile job under his direction did not entail a conflict of interest.


Mr. Fitzgerald quickly found out that the leaker of Ms. Plame's identity was Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, a fact Mr. Fitzgerald kept secret for years. Yet instead of closing the case down, Mr. Comey signed off within weeks on an expansion of Mr. Fitzgerald's mandate. After a three-year investigation that turned up almost nothing new, the prosecutor tried to salvage his tenure with a dubious indictment of Scooter Libby for perjury.

Mr. Fitzgerald's Javert imitation, supported by his superior Mr. Comey, also managed to land New York Times reporter Judith Miller in jail for 85 days for refusing to reveal her sources, and nearly did the same for Time magazine's Matthew Cooper.

And it's not just Comey. Unfortunately this type of conduct is all too common in the criminal justice system. It affects everyone from poor black defendants to businessmen and people like Flynn, who are unjustly convicted.

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Excellent Tiny. Now that's how you answer a question and explain what you believe. I think there is a lot of truth to what you said, Comey is a scum bag of the first order but you'll never convince me that going after Flynn didn't have a political component to it. I see to much evidence that convinces me of it but I do appreciate your research and effort. This would be a more interesting place if everybody put in the effort you just did. Thanks.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Excellent Tiny. Now that's how you answer a question and explain what you believe. I think there is a lot of truth to what you said, Comey is a scum bag of the first order but you'll never convince me that going after Flynn didn't have a political component to it. I see to much evidence that convinces me of it but I do appreciate your research and effort. This would be a more interesting place if everybody put in the effort you just did. Thanks.

Ditto, Hedonist, your messages are very comprehensive as well. You can actually learn some things on this web site, besides where to find your next piece of poontang. LustyLad's posts on the economy and Oeb's thread on Ioannidis come to mind.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by oeb11

I don't doubt that Radical anarchists ( O/W 'right-wing') are involved in fomenting riots, just as are Left-wing marxist sympathizers.

how much is "White supremacists" involved - not a lot - not like them to be side by side with a perceived enemy.

The alleged "White supremacists" are "Antifa". Mostly a bunch of entitled, rich-ish, white kids, plus that 75 yr old goober that was trying to scan the police comms. before he took a fall.

Keep the first rule of the TDS crowd in focus: What ever they are accusing you of doing is to distract you from them actually doing it.