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08-13-2025, 11:51 AM
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The POTUS has a responsibility to the country. Think of it like a DA who agrees to not charge suspect because of the damage it could do to another, larger, more important case.
As POTUS again, Trump has access to more information that maybe the FBI didn't share the last time. The victims are out of danger and they are not victims anymore. You can't go back and put the genie back in the bottle. So, going forward an industrial sector might crash if a number of the top people went to prison. The democrats should worry about themselves since they didn't open Pandora's box when they had the chance.
Maybe limited prosecutions but that is dangerous as well. Its probably not a satisfactory result but without knowing everything, everyone is just navel gazing.
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08-13-2025, 12:41 PM
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Total bullshit. Y’all will Come up with anything to try and justify why Trump’s administration isn’t releasing the information. The real reason is pretty simple. He has his name throughout and though maybe not implicated in a crime it will be highly embarrassing to him or people close to him. He has shown he doesn't give a shit about other people or the long term economic sector impacts of who might get dragged through the mud.
You Trumpys are the most gullible folks there are.
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08-13-2025, 01:34 PM
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The POTUS has a responsibility to the country. Think of it like a DA who agrees to not charge suspect because of the damage it could do to another, larger, more important case.
Trump has access to more information that maybe the FBI didn't share the last time. The victims are out of danger and they are not victims anymore. You can't go back and put the genie back in the bottle.
So, going forward an industrial sector might crash if a number of the top people went to prison. The democrats should worry about themselves since they didn't open Pandora's box when they had the chance.
Maybe limited prosecutions but that is dangerous as well. Its probably not a satisfactory result but without knowing everything, everyone is just navel gazing.
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I didn't realize that only people who don't affect industrial sectors were held to standards and laws. Heck- I mean if that was the case- Enron's CEO should have walked out clean as a new shirt- he along with Bernie Madoff.
I think rather than digging another conspiracy hole- the reality is that the folks on FOX, n other places gaslit the shit out of their constituents and watchers, with the story of the great pumpkin- and then got gob smacked when Bongino and Krazy Eyes Kash actually got the file.....it's either really a nothing burger (likely) or it's heinously vilifying with contents that are about a (forbidden topic).
I seriously doubt there is anything there- because if there was, it would have come out during the last election. That said, DEMS are gonna do the reverse gaslit to infuriate the GOP and force it's hand on providing "something" or screaming "it's a cover-up". The latter is what I predict- hence the further erosion of political belief and party loyalty.
At some point, you realize, "They Lied to me". Take yer pick on which side and who the liar is, but there are no alternative facts on this one. It's either there, or it isn't.
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08-13-2025, 03:09 PM
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Total He has his name throughout and though maybe not implicated in a crime it will be highly embarrassing to him or people close to him.
You Trumpys are the most gullible folks there are.
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If what you say is true, why didn't Biden release the same files?
It's LITERALLY the ONLY argument that matters. If Trump in in them, why Didn't Biden release them?
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08-13-2025, 03:45 PM
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Total bullshit. Y’all will Come up with anything to try and justify why Trump’s administration isn’t releasing the information. The real reason is pretty simple. He has his name throughout and though maybe not implicated in a crime it will be highly embarrassing to him or people close to him. He has shown he doesn't give a shit about other people or the long term economic sector impacts of who might get dragged through the mud.
You Trumpys are the most gullible folks there are.
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... Did you miss the FACT that President Trump has
demanded that the Epstein files be RELEASED?
And a Democrat-appointed Judge has blocked the release?
... And YOU - a so-called barrister and somehow
did not know any of this...
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08-13-2025, 05:36 PM
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Trump clearly hasn't demanded their release. You know how we know, because they have not been released. If Trump said, put the files on the internet for all to see, they would be posted in 10 minutes. If you believe that he has demanded anything close to release the files, you are more gullible than most MAGA folks.
Grand jury transcripts are not even close to being the same as the files. That is what a judge denied. In fact, there is nothing in those grand jury records that the president can't release tomorrow. Since the grand jury testimony was only that of two FBI agents, the DoJ could simply release the full interviews and investigative notes. All of that would take 5 minutes. By going to the court for grand jury records they were trying not to have the information released. There was no testimony from witnesses or victims, all of that was in the FBI interview notes, which the DoJ has possession of. More of your gullibility showing NaCl.
We already know Trump is in the files. That is not a secret. How much and in what context, that is what they do not want out there. The FBI assigned hundreds of agents to comb through the files for mentions of Trump so that they could be flagged. If he was not in the files, he would not have told the DoJ to find every mention of him.
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08-13-2025, 05:41 PM
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Actually, it seems to be a judge who is in the way. Once again, if there was proof against Trump, Biden or Obama would have used it.
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08-13-2025, 05:44 PM
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You don't understand "sector". What if the CEOs of the top five software companies were implicated? Now, there has to be an investigation and possible prosection. What happens to our economy if a large slice just got kicked in the balls?
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08-13-2025, 07:26 PM
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And you should acknowledge that it is temporary.
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Anything of Man is temporary.
Todays Empires. Tomorrows ashes.
But he sure expressed his desire to make it longer than mandated by law.
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It's not that simple!
There's gunna be redactions, for sure!
Bondi/Patel/Blanche are deciding how to maintain a modicum of credibility in regard to the number of redactions!
The documents could be so butchered with dozens of redactions ...that it will look farcical!
It could end up ... looking like an absolute joke!
This, is what's holding up the release!
(There's probably a ton of backchanneling going on behind the scenes by various intelligence agencies ... to protect their vested interests!)
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Oh, donny&co are working overtime to cover the shit that is spilled about him in there.
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In the Civil War, World War I, and World War II there were active duty troops maintaining order on the streets in Washington DC. The Home Rule Act of 1973 was passed with a veto proof Democrat majority in 1973. There is an emergency provision 740 which allows the president to declare an emergency and federal use the DC police. He has to inform the House in writing within 48 hours. The House has 30 days to approve by voting.
So, everything Trump has done was legal and within the bounds of the law.
The real fear of the left is not dictatorship, it is that like the border, Trump can fix crime. According to social workers, most crime is committed by a few people. When Trump locks up that 5-10% crime will go down and liberal heads will explode.
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Yeah. Where are those Bonus Marchers of today when you need them?
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If what you say is true, why didn't Biden release the same files?
It's LITERALLY the ONLY argument that matters. If Trump in in them, why Didn't Biden release them?
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Possibly because he wasn't as petty as the current potus.
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08-13-2025, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Did you miss the FACT that President Trump has
demanded that the Epstein files be RELEASED?
And a Democrat-appointed Judge has blocked the release?
... And YOU - a so-called barrister and somehow
did not know any of this...
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Trump has not demanded they be released. Salty, where do you get your information ?
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08-13-2025, 08:43 PM
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The new Russia, Russia, Russia. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. You guys are a broken record.
I challenge anyone to respond to this: since Biden controlled the Epstein documents for four years and we know how far they would go to stop Trump, why didn't they use those documents to expose Trump?
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This has nothing to do with the thread topic "Liberation Day DC"
This is a thread hijack.
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08-13-2025, 08:45 PM
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According to MSN, District Court Judge Paul A. Englemayer who was appointed by Obama has blocked the release of the files.
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08-13-2025, 08:48 PM
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Here is your thread hijacker. He brought up Epstein.
1Blackman1
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08-13-2025, 09:20 PM
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Look at your post.
When you read it you wouldn't even know it is the Liberation Day topic that is the discussion.
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08-13-2025, 09:37 PM
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This has nothing to do with the thread topic "Liberation Day DC"
This is a thread hijack.
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... He is the one who started the thread, Vita.
Reckon he is aware of "Liberation Day"..
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