Trump making peace between Russia and Ukraine

[HDGristle]

He can tell Krasnov after the fact, let the plans leak back to VladdyDaddy

Let's remember, Heggy's DoD has more leaks than the Titanic after the iceberg. And Heggy's DoD is Krasnov's DoD. And Krasnov has been protecting Vlad from very bad things.

Now, as for Bam's contention about the obligation for those bombers to be in the open... Russia pulled out of that treaty, stopped providing telemetry data, and had no such obligation as a result since 2023

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

He can tell Krasnov after the fact, let the plans leak back to VladdyDaddy

Let's remember, Heggy's DoD has more leaks than the Titanic after the iceberg. And Heggy's DoD is Krasnov's DoD. And Krasnov has been protecting Vlad from very bad things.

Now, as for Bam's contention about the obligation for those bombers to be in the open... Russia pulled out of that treaty, stopped providing telemetry data, and had no such obligation as a result since 2023

MAGA has a hard time keeping up. But just stand by for them to blame Biden in 3...2...

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by lustylad

How old are you? Were you even alive during the Cold War? Do you know or appreciate how much the map/division of Europe has changed since NATO was founded back in 1949? Ever heard of the Warsaw Pact? It's gone. Most of its former members are now part of NATO. Where were you when the Berlin Wall came down in 1989? We (by "we" I mean NATO and the West) won the Cold War without firing a shot. And we prevailed by ignoring Curtis LeMay's bellicose ideas, not listening to them.

Originally Posted by Bunter Hiden

Oh no! Please tell me I'm losing out on watching you type more things that indicate a lack of reality awareness. I have zero interest in anything you want to share, but feel free to inflict it if you wish.

At least you knew who Curtis LeMay was.

However, your trollish, defensive non-response to a few simple questions about the Cold War confirms to everyone that your grasp of recent history is sadly lacking, to say the least.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Now, as for Bam's contention about the obligation for those bombers to be in the open... Russia pulled out of that treaty, stopped providing telemetry data, and had no such obligation as a result since 2023

Per the WSJ:

"Russia, like the U.S., often leaves long-range bombers parked outside and easily visible, both for operational reasons and as part of nuclear-disarmament agreements with Washington around the end of the Cold War."

https://www.wsj.com/world/ukraines-s...ategy-094f8c1c

[tommy156]

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Originally Posted by eyecu2

Zelensky doesn't have to notify us on anything- He's allowed to defend his country just as we are allowed to defend ours. Not saying it's not prudent to let the neighbors know that something is gonna go down, but perhaps it was for a good reason. He doesn't trust Trump. He doesn't trust any of the people on our side for both demonizing him for standing up to Putin and not rolling over and letting Vlad and the gang run roughshod over Ukraine. I would really rather know WHAT exactly the US is saying to Russia on the war stoppage. I don't see much carrot nor much stick honestly. The embargos and surcharges are easily gotten around by them. Trump can't be trusted to keep his mouth shut if he knew that Ukraine was gonna blow up some bombers in Russia.



... Bullshit! ... He should let America - and particularly
President Trump know what he's gonna do - seeing-as his
war defence has been payed-for with AMERICAN MONEY! $$$$

Where you been? ... Have you NOT been paying attention??

#### Salty

That's insane to suggest, Salty. As soon as Zelenskyy tells trump anything, trump would run like a little tattle-tail to his daddy Putin.

Other than that, Ukraine has zero obligation to reveal war plans to anyone, especially the U.S. ever since trump and vance's Oval Office ambush of Zelenskyy. Furthermore, the E.U. has given far more toward the war effort than the U.S. has - despite trump's lies about the financials.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Per the WSJ:

"Russia, like the U.S., often leaves long-range bombers parked outside and easily visible, both for operational reasons and as part of nuclear-disarmament agreements with Washington around the end of the Cold War."

https://www.wsj.com/world/ukraines-s...ategy-094f8c1c

Read up. I was wrong about pulling out, but they did pause participation and weren't obligated as a result to have them parked in the open. Common practice.

Hilarious results

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/did-a-...n-bombers/?amp

[HDGristle]

I think it's appalling that JD Vance hasn't called up Zelensky to thank him for taking out those Russian bombers.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I think it's appalling that JD Vance hasn't called up Zelensky to thank him for taking out those Russian bombers.

Me too. Disgraceful.

[txdot-guy]

What I find interesting about operation spider web is the not the actual attack but the out of the box thinking that it took to conceive of the operation in the first place.

I’m not sure how many people would have thought about a drone attack so far behind enemy lines was feasible in the first place.

Here is a good write up: https://www.csis.org/analysis/how-uk...metric-warfare

They had to coordinate attacks against four widely separated air bases one of which was located in siberia over 4000 kilometers away.

By all accounts the entire operation was conceived and executed flawlessly.

We haven’t seen anything from the russian military so far to match the ingenuity of the ukrainians.

This will be a particularly difficult point to overcome for peace talks to go forward.

[HDGristle]

The ability of the Ukranians to adapt and innovate has been nothing short of inspiring.

[HDGristle]

More feckless leadership from the guy who said he could end this just by asking

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/04/trum...sia-peace.html

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

More feckless leadership from the guy who said he could end this just by asking

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/04/trum...sia-peace.html

Wonder who called whom? Notice Trump didn’t post that on Truth Social.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

More feckless leadership from the guy who said he could end this just by asking

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/04/trum...sia-peace.html

trump is such a pussy. Putin still calls all the shots. He owns trump.

[bambino]

BREAKING: Ukraine is under intense bombardment as massive explosions rock the capital—Russia is launching a full-scale assault.

@GeneralMCNews

[bambino]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Wonder who called whom? Notice Trump didn’t post that on Truth Social.

Does it matter? Those types calls are set up by intermediaries.


https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...26383407680212

Thank you valued poster