Trump making peace between Russia and Ukraine

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Im speculating but I wonder if today’s drone action from Ukraine was funded by the UK.

Dangerous escalation IMO.

Fuck Russia and pootin. Fuck trump too for that matter.


I think we should give Ukraine some tactical nukes. Tell them to feel free to drop them inside Russia. Should have done something like that 2 years ago.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by TechPapi

Fuck Russia and pootin. Fuck trump too for that matter.

I think we should give Ukraine some tactical nukes. Tell them to feel free to drop them inside Russia. Should have done something like that 2 years ago.

Wow, that sounds like brilliant strategic advice. From the Curtis LeMay of the Political Forum.

Hey TP, go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by TechPapi

Fuck Russia and pootin. Fuck trump too for that matter.


I think we should give Ukraine some tactical nukes. Tell them to feel free to drop them inside Russia. Should have done something like that 2 years ago.

You’re willing to go fight in the front for Ukraine correct?

I mean you do have a passion to keep the conflict going.

Why cheer from the sidelines?

[bambino]

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy Is Absolutely Not In Control Of Anything, Not His 'Own' Government, And Not His 'Own' Military. The Orders He Gives Are Given To Him By NATO And The CIA. Not A Single Decision During The Entire War Has Been Zelenskyy's. Period. Every Single Military Move Is Planned And Facilitated By NATO And The CIA.

This All Started In 2014 When The CIA Overthrew President Viktor Yanukovych. President Zelenskyy Is Simply An Installed Puppet, Playing The Part Of Victim Of 'Russia's Aggression', And Today He Was Encouraged, Or Forced, To Make The Biggest Mistake Of His Life, And Possibly The Lives Of Tens Of Thousands Of Ukrainians.

This Will Not End Well For Ukraine, Maybe Even Not For Europe. Tactical Nukes Are Now On The Table, Which Makes This Far More Serious Than Few Can Imagine.

President Putin Can Only Be Pushed So Far, And There Is Nothing That Can Stop Him From Pushing Back With Furious Anger And Vengeance At This Point, On A Level Not Seen Before From Russia, To Protect His Nation And Its Citizens.

There Is No Doubt NATO Initiated This War, Assisted By The CIA. However, Most People Are Brainwashed By Western Leaders, Their Military 'Experts', And The Mainstream Media To Believe NATO Is A Defensive Alliance. It May Have Been At Some Point, But It Is Now An Aggressor Alliance, And Today They Took It Way Too Far.

No World Leader, Even President Trump, Can Convince President Putin Not To Retaliate On A Big Scale. No One. Ukraine Should Not Fear The Bombers, They Should Fear The Long Range Missiles With Tactical Nuclear Warheads.

Putin Has Been Exceptionally Patient For Many Years, Watching The Expansion Of NATO Grow To Unprecedented Proportions. Of Course, He Is Aware Of NATO's True Intentions, Which At This Point In History Has Reached New Heights.

NATO And The CIA Are Pure Evil, And Has Been For Many Decades. [They] Want WWIII So Bad, And Now They Can Finally Taste It.

It Is Imperative To Keep In Mind What Riccardo Bosi Said At The Beginning Of This War....

"The Russians Are Fighting The Khazarian Mafia In Their Homeland. They Are Cutting The Head Off The Snake Of The Group That Has Been Destroying This Planet For Generations. Because They Control This Country Like They Control Everywhere Else. And The Russians Along With Many Other Nations And Many Other Militaries Are Actually Fighting A Subterranean War To Exterminate Vermin From The Planet." ― Riccardo Bosi, Australia One, Australian Army Special Forces Lieutenant Colonel

[bambino]

ATTENTION!

So, it appears Zelenskyy gave the go ahead to attack parked Russian nuclear capable bombers without informing @realDonaldTrump (if true that our President was not consulted nor informed, this isn’t simply a breach of protocol. It’s a geopolitical insult and a warning sign. If Ukraine is willing to conduct strikes with strategic consequences without notifying the White House, we are no longer allies with coordination issues—we are co-belligerents flying blind).

Also given Senator “warmonger” Lindsey Graham’s and Senator “Da Nang Dick” Blumenthal’s recent visit, this attack could appear as though it was sanctioned. I pray the Russians have better intelligence than that. IMHO, these two don’t have the sense or common sense to pull something like this off (there will have to be denials though).

FYI, Those bombers that were hit HAVE to be out in full view due to nuclear treaty obligations. Zelenskyy took advantage of that. For instance, they appear to have hidden the drones in containers and were driven on trucks near the airbase. Smart use of deception (see photos below).

However, imagine any one of our big bomber bases having the exact same thing done to them. Very costly U.S. Strategic Bombers can be taken out in the same way by anyone with access to inexpensive drones, delivery trucks, explosives, and a bit of technical knowledge (not good and new tactics will now have to be developed).

People, and especially world leaders, need to realize the global implications to such an operation as Ukraine just pulled off.

Russia will respond. Action, reaction, counteraction. Those are the shifting tides of warfare.

This wasn’t a bold action, it was brash. Ukraine’s short-term win could be the world’s long-term loss.

Despite what is a complete mess right now in Europe, there are still solutions to achieving peace. They are narrowing however and time, as it often does, becomes an enemy instead of a useful friend.
@PeteHegseth
@DNIGabbard
@JDVance
@marcorubio

[eyecu2]

Zelensky doesn't have to notify us on anything- He's allowed to defend his country just as we are allowed to defend ours. Not saying it's not prudent to let the neighbors know that something is gonna go down, but perhaps it was for a good reason. He doesn't trust Trump. He doesn't trust any of the people on our side for both demonizing him for standing up to Putin and not rolling over and letting Vlad and the gang run roughshod over Ukraine. I would really rather know WHAT exactly the US is saying to Russia on the war stoppage. I don't see much carrot nor much stick honestly. The embargos and surcharges are easily gotten around by them. Trump can't be trusted to keep his mouth shut if he knew that Ukraine was gonna blow up some bombers in Russia.

Why?

Cause Trump is looking at who really lines his pockets. It's Russians- either by funding his little property shenanigans, or selling them 5 million dollar gold visas. Don't think that there isn't a cherry on the top for the Trump family for that little extra allowance. Trump is Trump. If he's doing something for someone- it' comes with strings attached and a payout/ ;payoff.

Tell us what master plan Trump had / has / knows that will force Vlad and the Russians to retreat? He campaigned on it. Stop in the first day / week / month etc.

WELL....were waiting!

[HDGristle]

The first one is bananas. The second is chicken little

[Bunter Hiden]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Wow, that sounds like brilliant strategic advice. From the Curtis LeMay of the Political Forum.

While LeMay was definitely on the aggressive side, perhaps we should have listened to some ideas about how to deal with the USSR/ Russia, so we wouldn't find ourselves dealing with this shit now.

Appeasement and sucking Putin's little dick haven't produced the results all the MAGAs think will work.

go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.

I'd say that's true. Good self-realization moment you have going on there.

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by bambino

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy Is Absolutely Not In Control Of Anything, Not His 'Own' Government, And Not His 'Own' Military. The Orders He Gives Are Given To Him By NATO And The CIA. Not A Single Decision During The Entire War Has Been Zelenskyy's. Period. Every Single Military Move Is Planned And Facilitated By NATO And The CIA.

This All Started In 2014 When The CIA Overthrew President Viktor Yanukovych. President Zelenskyy Is Simply An Installed Puppet, Playing The Part Of Victim Of 'Russia's Aggression', And Today He Was Encouraged, Or Forced, To Make The Biggest Mistake Of His Life, And Possibly The Lives Of Tens Of Thousands Of Ukrainians.

This Will Not End Well For Ukraine, Maybe Even Not For Europe. Tactical Nukes Are Now On The Table, Which Makes This Far More Serious Than Few Can Imagine.

President Putin Can Only Be Pushed So Far, And There Is Nothing That Can Stop Him From Pushing Back With Furious Anger And Vengeance At This Point, On A Level Not Seen Before From Russia, To Protect His Nation And Its Citizens.

There Is No Doubt NATO Initiated This War, Assisted By The CIA. However, Most People Are Brainwashed By Western Leaders, Their Military 'Experts', And The Mainstream Media To Believe NATO Is A Defensive Alliance. It May Have Been At Some Point, But It Is Now An Aggressor Alliance, And Today They Took It Way Too Far.

No World Leader, Even President Trump, Can Convince President Putin Not To Retaliate On A Big Scale. No One. Ukraine Should Not Fear The Bombers, They Should Fear The Long Range Missiles With Tactical Nuclear Warheads.

Putin Has Been Exceptionally Patient For Many Years, Watching The Expansion Of NATO Grow To Unprecedented Proportions. Of Course, He Is Aware Of NATO's True Intentions, Which At This Point In History Has Reached New Heights.

NATO And The CIA Are Pure Evil, And Has Been For Many Decades. [They] Want WWIII So Bad, And Now They Can Finally Taste It.

It Is Imperative To Keep In Mind What Riccardo Bosi Said At The Beginning Of This War....

"The Russians Are Fighting The Khazarian Mafia In Their Homeland. They Are Cutting The Head Off The Snake Of The Group That Has Been Destroying This Planet For Generations. Because They Control This Country Like They Control Everywhere Else. And The Russians Along With Many Other Nations And Many Other Militaries Are Actually Fighting A Subterranean War To Exterminate Vermin From The Planet." ― Riccardo Bosi, Australia One, Australian Army Special Forces Lieutenant Colonel

I think this is some of the crazy the rightwinger was posting about above. Nearly every word of this is complete and utter bullshit. No surprise BambiNO is using his awesome skills of copy/pasta.

[bambino]

Ukraine’s drone attack was more a media/political stunt than a military operation.

They damaged aircraft that have to be out in the open for nuclear treaty purposes.

And Western MSM all sprung into action to report on this attack with glee, as if this was some sort of massive victory, while ignoring Russia pounding the shit out of Ukraine and taking ground for years, because it doesn’t fit their narrative. All they wanted was headlines saying that Putin and Russia are vulnerable/weakened, as seen below.

This attack did not limit Russia’s capabilities whatsoever. All Ukraine did was take advantage of Russia’s adherence to nuclear treaties that require their nuclear bombers to be out in the open. Besides, this war is mostly drone and land-based missile. If Putin is going to drop nukes on Ukraine, it’s going to be from their hypersonic IRBM land-based Oreshnik, which Putin has already used in battle without nuclear payloads attached, just to prove to NATO that they cannot intercept it.

Ukraine, and their NATO handlers, accomplished nothing with this attack, other than headlines. All they did was prove they are not interested in surrender or peace. They want full-scale WW3, and are willing to risk all of our lives to maintain their power and cover up the unfathomable corruption in Ukraine.

[HDGristle]

It's amazing how quickly we get to see Kremlin talking points these days

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

It's amazing how quickly we get to see Kremlin talking points these days

More back pedaling than I've seen from a guy riding a unicycle.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Bunter Hiden

While LeMay was definitely on the aggressive side, perhaps we should have listened to some ideas about how to deal with the USSR/ Russia, so we wouldn't find ourselves dealing with this shit now.

Appeasement and sucking Putin's little dick haven't produced the results all the MAGAs think will work.

How old are you? Were you even alive during the Cold War? Do you know or appreciate how much the map/division of Europe has changed since NATO was founded back in 1949? Ever heard of the Warsaw Pact? It's gone. Most of its former members are now part of NATO. Where were you when the Berlin Wall came down in 1989? We (by "we" I mean NATO and the West) won the Cold War without firing a shot. And we prevailed by ignoring Curtis LeMay's bellicose ideas, not listening to them.

There have been many, many mistakes in the conduct of our foreign policy toward Russia since the collapse of the former Soviet Union. I am more than willing to elaborate further, but only with posters who can demonstrate they possess a modicum of historical knowledge.

[Bunter Hiden]

Originally Posted by lustylad

There have been many, many mistakes in the conduct of our foreign policy toward Russia since the collapse of the former Soviet Union. I am more than willing to elaborate further, but only with posters who can demonstrate they possess a modicum of historical knowledge.

Oh no! Please tell me I'm losing out on watching you type more things that indicate a lack of reality awareness. I have zero interest in anything you want to share, but feel free to inflict it if you wish.


Based on the shit that Bambino guy pastes, it's pretty clear I can get all your opinions from Putin's lackies.

[Salty Again]

[QUOTE=eyecu2;1063808902]Zelensky doesn't have to notify us on anything- He's allowed to defend his country just as we are allowed to defend ours. Not saying it's not prudent to let the neighbors know that something is gonna go down, but perhaps it was for a good reason. He doesn't trust Trump. He doesn't trust any of the people on our side for both demonizing him for standing up to Putin and not rolling over and letting Vlad and the gang run roughshod over Ukraine. I would really rather know WHAT exactly the US is saying to Russia on the war stoppage. I don't see much carrot nor much stick honestly. The embargos and surcharges are easily gotten around by them. Trump can't be trusted to keep his mouth shut if he knew that Ukraine was gonna blow up some bombers in Russia.



... Bullshit! ... He should let America - and particularly
President Trump know what he's gonna do - seeing-as his
war defence has been payed-for with AMERICAN MONEY! $$$$

Where you been? ... Have you NOT been paying attention??

#### Salty