I would love to know this.

[SexyKaylen]

who are you.. you don't know me and I for sure don't know you.. the past is the past so leave it there but like you said I had drama in the past prove it. ok I herd this before..You are an attention whore oh yeah wiz say that.. If I were you I would ignore this and move on girl I don't know you or you know me at all.. WHAT DRAMA GIRL SHOW ME ...You don't know what you are talking about..

Originally Posted by Thequeen

Kaylen, Here lately the many threads you have started do not have much drama in them, There might be one or two responses that started up something but for the most part you haven't started any. You do post ALOT of threads and that is your right, you say you want to get your name out there and if that's how you want to do it that's your right!!!!! As I have stated in another thread a while back that was about drama is because in the past you have had some. it's very easy for a client or a provider to make a smart ass comment or joke and then you go "defend" your self which some people would call that drama... You are an attention whore. Let me explain that, Im not calling you a whore by no means in a negative way, You like attention and you post and post to get your name out there and to let everyone know you are here. That is how you want to run your business that is fine. If you feel like posting threads after threads to get attention works for you then great but like I said because of other problems in the past the more you post the more likely someone is going to come along and say something smart.. Everyone knows sooner or later in one of your ad's someone who doesn't care for you will post something to get you fired up and you take the bait. Maybe that gets you more business maybe it doesn't. If I see something I don't like I usually just ignore it and carry on but this is a hooker board and most likely someone is going to start shit. It's how you react and whether or not drama is started. There for a while you did have a lot of drama being associated with your name. Some of the men remember that some new guys might now and when they go to ask about you some will say hey she's kinda had some drama around her.. The threads are here for everyone to go look at for themselves.. Lately your threads have been clear of it but to those that don't care for you when they see it all they think about it drama. There is nothing you can do. Some will like you, Some will not like you but still respect you and some well wont like you and will disrespect you... Ive never not liked you nor have I disrespected you in anyway. Do I feel like you have drama, Sometimes yes. Only because of what I have seen on the boards but unless you bring the drama to me I try to stay away from it.. I would have no problem giving you a reference if you asked, No problem answering a question if you had one for me. I don't think there is any provider or client on here who I have ever had an issue with nor have anyone on here who disrespects me because I don't let little comments set me off, I stay out of most of it because when a client is looking to see someone he will look to see who she talks with on the boards, does she start fights, does she have drama, There has not been a thread where I had any drama going on. Im not sure the real reason you started this thread. I saw a review where there were some comments but just let it go, not everyone is going to like you.. Not everyone likes me Im sure but when you make threads like this well it doesn't make you look any better.. No one wants to see someone who is out running to everyone trying to start drama..

You are a smart woman, you know what you are doing and how you want to do it. Let this thread go and carry on like you have been, no drama... If ppl still think there is drama then whatever you cant please everyone.. There are plenty of other men out here who do see you and want to see you so those who bring up that they have heard drama about you just let it go and don't worry about them, Why give time to someone who already thinks little of you, chances are they are just going to go back and talk about you to stir things up some more.....

Again Ive never had a problem with you nor have I even spoken to you, I don't not like you I just keep to my self so please don't think Im attacking you in my response. If you don't like me that is fine it still doesn't make me feel any different about you. While I admit some of the drama on the boards is entertaining and gives us things to laugh at it really is old and childish. Next time someone says something instead of defending yourself and giving them your attention which they wanted to spark a rise out of you just ignore it. Im not saying don't stand up for yourself but just don't make a big deal out of it and maybe after you ignoring them enough they will stop as well!!!!

[Johnny4455]

You asked a question in your op. I dont think you wanted it answered though, as you have attacked the few that tried to give their view of exactly what you asked about. Is the purpose of this post just to get your name out there, or did you really want to hear what someone thinks about whether you create drama on this board?

[SexyKaylen]

How is it attacking someone that has been attacking me in every post I make. (bigryan, lubeman) look at all my threads I make or my reviews that they comment on.
I want proof I create drama.. I think everyone knows me so no its not trying to get my name out there.

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

You asked a question in your op. I dont think you wanted it answered though, as you have attacked the few that tried to give their view of exactly what you asked about. Is the purpose of this post just to get your name out there, or did you really want to hear what someone thinks about whether you create drama on this board?

[malwoody]

Originally Posted by bigryan222

Even a perfect person is going to eventually rub someone the wrong way though
Please take my as constructive. It is hard not to get sucked into drama sometimes and this includes myself.

Yeah...as perfect as I am, even I have pissed off a couple over time..

Originally Posted by SexyKaylen

How is it attacking someone that has been attacking me in every post I make. (bigryan, lubeman) look at all my threads I make or my reviews that they comment on.
I want proof I create drama.. I think everyone knows me so no its not trying to get my name out there.

There is probably no real proof you "create drama"...hell even I the great Megawoody have been accused of creating drama and we know that's false....right??

IMO it's simple, if you are visible and post a lot, sooner or later and usually somewhat frequently you are going to be tagged as a drama creator.. I've been threatened in PMs, called names on this forum and even for some unknown reason been given points...LOL. It's because I will share my opinions and if someone does not like it..oh well. Now if you go silent from this point foward or simply post a weekly ad, folks will say that Kaylen is not into Drama anymore but if you continue to share your thoughts, someone somewhere is always going to take issue.. It's human nature.

There are those of us that are sensitive to the fact that it is our Hobby but your livelihood, so I understand your concern. Just a suggestion but maybe try not to be quite so sensitive..the comments others have made here were only trying to answer your question and offer constructive thoughts. Also the best way to deal with mex/lubeman or whoever he is would be to just ignore him...

Now go have some fun...

[rz7crs]

Kaylen -

You aren't asking for my advice but I will give it anyway. (Hey, everyone is entitled to my opinion! lol)

I think the best course of action for you might be to totally ignore the comments from people who you perceive as attacking you on here. Some may be intentionally tossing rocks in your direction just hoping to spin you up. You are not going to please everybody, so focus on the ones you can and totally ignore the ones you can't. If someone says something nasty to you and you do not even respond, they will soon tire of that game and move on to another target.

All I know is that (on a scale of 1 - 10), you were a 10 for fun this week and you received a drama rating of 0.

Fuck 'em honey, move on.

[Guest030114]

As I stated in a different thread: Don't believe everything you read; don't trust anything you hear. If those of you hobbyists that change your mind about seeing any provider because of rumors or "things you heard" - just ask the provider about it. If she is upfront with you, then you should have no problems. Remember, what happens on this SHMB is fiction and not a true representation of anyone on here. To deprive anyone of their livelihood because of unsubstantiated rumors is a disservice to that person. And don't start or continue those types of accusations of drama unless you have first-hand knowledge (in other words, it happened to you).

[bigryan222]

Originally Posted by SexyKaylen

How is it attacking someone that has been attacking me in every post I make. (bigryan, lubeman) look at all my threads I make or my reviews that they comment on.
I want proof I create drama.. I think everyone knows me so no its not trying to get my name out there.

This thread is proof that you create drama. Saying I attacked you is creating drama when I answered you question in a very respectful way. Then when you ignored the response and played victim I was a little more blunt. Then you ignored that response and played victim again so I got more direct. Now I am attacking you for answering your question.

[Johnny4455]

Roaming,
So you are saying someone's livelihood is being deprived because of rumors?

If a hobbyist chooses not to see a provider because of firsthand experience, or because he has a bad feeling... that is probably a good decision. Providers do that all the time. Choose not to see someone because if a feeling they get, among other reasons.

I dont think the op is about false rumors depriving her of business.

[Guest030114]

Originally Posted by bigryan222

This thread is proof that you create drama. Saying I attacked you is creating drama when I answered you question in a very respectful way. Then when you ignored the response and played victim I was a little more blunt. Then you ignored that response and played victim again so I got more direct. Now I am attacking you for answering your question.

And yet, you decide to exacerbate the situation by responding like this? :smh:

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

So you are saying someone's livelihood is being deprived because of rumors?

If a hobbyist chooses not to see a provider because of firsthand experience, or because he has a bad feeling... that is probably a good decision. Providers do that all the time. Choose not to see someone because if a feeling they get, among other reasons.

I dont think the op is about false rumors depriving her of business.

Yes, the op said she was having cancellations due to rumors of this supposed "drama". She simply asked a question and for proof. So far, no proof has been given and the only drama was caused by the same individuals that for some reason have some kind of animus towards the op.

[bigryan222]

Originally Posted by RoamingTheMidwest

And yet, you decide to exacerbate the situation by responding like this? :smh:



Yes, the op said she was having cancellations due to rumors of this supposed "drama". She simply asked a question and for proof. So far, no proof has been given and the only drama was caused by the same individuals that for some reason have some kind of animus towards the op.

I say this thread is proof and her month long ban is proof for start. Do you really want me to dig deeper?

There are two types of drama that happen here. There is the truly bad drama like with whatever happened between Kaylen, SOTF, and GraceUTR (which to my understanding was not her fault so she gets a pass, same for Sins) and then there is message board drama where you make the most simple things over complicated such as this entire thread. Kaylen is certainly guilty of the second issue on a moderately regular basis. As I have said before, sometimes she is goated into it, but she is still a part of it. Sometimes she starts threads asking about it and then plays victim when she gets an answer that is not what she wants to hear. That is the drama I am talking about. Not the dangerous form, but the annoying to read on the board form.

I guess you can ignore the ban aspect of the drama, but the time of the ban is very suspicious especially since the only times I can remember a month long ban was for doing things that make me question whether or not to trust the person, mostly around sharing inappropriate information or gaining access to things they should not. Her ban was nothing like Gemma's for example where it looked like it was for points accumulated (rightly or wrongly, not my point) and where they will drop off and the ban will probably not stop at a convenient month or round number of days.

[Johnny4455]

Originally Posted by RoamingTheMidwest

And yet, you decide to exacerbate the situation by responding like guess :smh:



Yes, the op said she was having cancellations due to rumors of this supposed "drama". She simply asked a question and for proof. So far, no proof has been given and the only dramaprocaused by the same individuals that for some reason have some kind of animus towards the op.

Cancellations because of rumors of drama? Hmmm, didnt you suggest dont believe everything you hear? I guess you believe a bunch of people scheduled, then cancelled because of rumors that op was involved in drama? Is that what she told you. Sounds like a stretch to me. You believe it? She give you proof?

[Guest030114]

Originally Posted by bigryan222

I say this thread is proof and her month long ban is proof for start. Do you really want me to dig deeper?

There are two types of drama that happen here. There is the truly bad drama like with whatever happened between Kaylen, SOTF, and GraceUTR (which to my understanding was not her fault so she gets a pass, same for Sins) and then there is message board drama where you make the most simple things over complicated such as this entire thread. Kaylen is certainly guilty of the second issue on a moderately regular basis. As I have said before, sometimes she is goated into it, but she is still a part of it. Sometimes she starts threads asking about it and then plays victim when she gets an answer that is not what she wants to hear. That is the drama I am talking about. Not the dangerous form, but the annoying to read on the board form.

I guess you can ignore the ban aspect of the drama, but the time of the ban is very suspicious especially since the only times I can remember a month long ban was for doing things that make me question whether or not to trust the person, mostly around sharing inappropriate information or gaining access to things they should not. Her ban was nothing like Gemma's for example where it looked like it was for points accumulated (rightly or wrongly, not my point) and where they will drop off and the ban will probably not stop at a convenient month or round number of days.

From what I understand, you can be banned for an accumulation of points for small things. I know because I have received points for something to which I responded and asked what did it mean. It doesn't really matter why someone was banned - that's not drama. But when you and others decide to goad people into responding so that it looks dramatic is the stuff for which high school cliques are known. Grow up and quit trying to make a specific individual your personal piñata.

[bigryan222]

Originally Posted by RoamingTheMidwest

From what I understand, you can be banned for an accumulation of points for small things. I know because I have received points for something to which I responded and asked what did it mean. It doesn't really matter why someone was banned - that's not drama. But when you and others decide to goad people into responding so that it looks dramatic is the stuff for which high school cliques are known. Grow up and quit trying to make a specific individual your personal piñata.

Her ban appeared to be exactly a month. Her posts the day and leading up to the day had nothing against board rules. If it was something silly like posting an ad in the wrong area she could have said that instead of saying it is none of my business. She has the right to hide why she was banned, but it is at the cost of speculation. So in her case with her ban it very well could matter why she was banned.

Remember that she asked for responses. Remember that she said implied I attacked her when I gave a polite answer to her thread. Saying I should grow up and not make her my personal pinata is proof that you ignored everything that took place in this thread.

[Guest030114]

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

Cancellations because of rumors of drama? Hmmm, didnt you suggest dont believe everything you hear? I guess you believe a bunch of people scheduled, then cancelled because of rumors that op was involved in drama? Is that what she told you. Sounds like a stretch to me. You believe it? She give you proof?

She does not have to give me proof. And, yes, I believe her and I trust her.

[Guest030114]

Originally Posted by bigryan222

Her ban appeared to be exactly a month. Her posts the day and leading up to the day had nothing against board rules. If it was something silly like posting an ad in the wrong area she could have said that instead of saying it is none of my business. She has the right to hide why she was banned, but it is at the cost of speculation. So in her case with her ban it very well could matter why she was banned.

Remember that she asked for responses. Remember that she said implied I attacked her when I gave a polite answer to her thread. Saying I should grow up and not make her my personal pinata is proof that you ignored everything that took place in this thread.

It is up to her whether she wants to disclose the reasons for the ban, but it's not hiding - it's none of your, mine or anyone else's business. She did not ask for responses, she asked for someone to provide proof of this alleged "drama". Again, you decided to prolong the discussion and to try to get the last word in. And I did read all of this thread and the constructive posts were well written and on point. You seem to be the only one with a vendetta in this thread.