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		|  11-04-2010, 04:03 PM | #1 |  
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				 What is the definition of BFE? 
 
			
			We've had plenty of discussion about what does and what doesn't constitute GFE behavior.  And most men (who are the ultimate judges of it, with their pocketbooks), believe GFE requires intimate acts performed as closely as possible to the way a true GF would perform it (kissing, snuggling, daty, bbbj, etc.).
 But we all know that men are from Mars and women are from Venus, right?
 
 I am interested in what the providers find to be the most attractive BFE behavior.  (I mean, besides remembering to leave the envelope in plain sight).  Is it purely attitudinal?  Can the ladies define it?  I'd be very interested.
 
 I have my own opinions, but will save them for later because I'm most interested in what the ladies think about this.
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		|  11-04-2010, 04:07 PM | #2 |  
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			Smell good, kiss good, shave your balls, wash your azz, don't be over 6 in., and actually get me off lol. Translation just in case...don't try to stick ANYTHING in me unless you have pre-heated the oven. That includes your dry, fat finger! 
 You're welcome...no tip needed lol.
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		|  11-04-2010, 04:12 PM | #3 |  
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			Damn, London... I wasn't even thinking the sex and body part... I was thinking jewelry, flowers, dinner, wine, lingerie wrapped up nicely in a box with a bow, and other nice gifts!!!
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		|  11-04-2010, 04:16 PM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by Lea Madisson  Damn, London... I wasn't even thinking the sex and body part... I was thinking jewelry, flowers, dinner, wine, lingerie wrapped up nicely in a box with a bow, and other nice gifts!!!
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Nah I want that from a REAL boyfriend. These guys pay me enough lol, but sure a bottle of wine goes a long way when I am drunk off one glass.    |  
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		|  11-04-2010, 05:12 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by London Rayne  Smell good, kiss good, shave your balls, wash your azz, don't be over 6 in., and actually get me off lol. Translation just in case...don't try to stick ANYTHING in me unless you have pre-heated the oven. That includes your dry, fat finger! 
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Dang.  I can meet all of those requirement but one.  Which one?  I'm not telling.
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		|  11-04-2010, 08:03 PM | #6 |  
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			Judging by your sig. line I bet I can guess. Keep that big stick!
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		|  11-04-2010, 08:06 PM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by London Rayne  Smell good, kiss good, shave your balls, wash your azz, don't be over 6 in., and actually get me off lol. Translation just in case...don't try to stick ANYTHING in me unless you have pre-heated the oven. That includes your dry, fat finger! 
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lol...soooo close
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		|  11-04-2010, 08:11 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by Lea Madisson   I was thinking jewelry, flowers, dinner, wine, lingerie wrapped up nicely in a box with a bow, and other nice gifts!! |  
the BFE and GFE...is just out of hand and needs to be renamed.  
  
BF's, do not usualy do these things listed above.  They dont do it, because women dont really like nice men.  If they do, do it...they dont continue to do it, because they grow tired of her bullshit...OR, she stops doing what she did in the begining. When she WAS GFE
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		|  11-04-2010, 09:10 PM | #9 |  
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			Bj's buy a LOT of Botox lol. BJ with CIM EVERY time he gets one....beach house! Thanks   |  
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		|  11-05-2010, 12:39 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by London Rayne  Smell good, kiss good, shave your balls, wash your azz, don't be over 6 in., and actually get me off lol. Translation just in case...don't try to stick ANYTHING in me unless you have pre-heated the oven. That includes your dry, fat finger! 
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					Originally Posted by Lea Madisson  Damn, London... I wasn't even thinking the sex and body part... I was thinking jewelry, flowers, dinner, wine, lingerie wrapped up nicely in a box with a bow, and other nice gifts!!!
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LMAO..!!  
 
Well if I wanted a BFE from a hobbyist, I think it would start with what boyfriends in my past have done for me!  Seduce me, woo me!  Cater to me, and my desires.  Make me feel like I am Queen!  Treat me with respect!  Have an actual intelligent conversation for once that wasn't always about sex. Connecting in a way that was mutally satifsying. Sure you can give me gifts, I love gifts!  But make the gifts something I really like, as a boyfriend would give, ie; perfume, flowers, gift cards to my favorite store.  Take me to my favorite resturant.. make my fantasy come true!
 
But.. in reality I would imagine if your paying an escort most likely the guy is going to want it the other way around..LOL
 
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		|  11-05-2010, 12:43 PM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by bubbaJay  the BFE and GFE...is just out of hand and needs to be renamed.  
 BF's, do not usualy do these things listed above.  They dont do it, because women dont really like nice men.  If they do, do it...they dont continue to do it, because they grow tired of her bullshit...OR, she stops doing what she did in the begining. When she WAS GFE
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Baby, you sound so jaded in this post.  Sorry your experiences have been so negative.  
 
Too bad you feel this way..
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		|  11-05-2010, 04:10 PM | #12 |  
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			Thank you, GP, for being the first to actually make a serious attempt at answering my question.  I agree with you.  It's about treating her as a woman and not as a piece of meat.
 The fact that I am leaving something in the envelope doesn't mean she doesn't want to be romanced and treated like a lady.
 
 But some other responses on this thread show that not all providers deserve to be treated as a lady.  And others show that not all hobbyists are capable of being gentlemen.
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		|  11-05-2010, 04:19 PM | #13 |  
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			I was being serious lol. I am not hard to please really. You are NOT my BF so although I appreciate a level of respect, I don't expect you to bring me flowers, candy, etc. How would I explain bringing it home anyway? Do I appreciate it...sure, but it's not necessary. You can bring me all the flowers in the world, but if you can't clean your own body properly or know when you are putting me in physical pain...talk about disrespect.
 By simply doing the things I listed, you are in fact being respectful and acting as a BFE. I know I would never have sex with someone who can't shave, shower, and use some common sense when attempting to approach the female form.
 
 Also, a guy with a sense of humor goes a long way too.
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		|  11-05-2010, 04:19 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by bubbaJay  the BFE and GFE...is just out of hand and needs to be renamed.  
BF's, do not usualy do these things listed above. They dont do it, because women dont really like nice men. If they do, do it...they dont continue to do it, because they grow tired of her bullshit...OR, she stops doing what she did in the begining. When she WAS GFE 
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My GF...looks like a PS, and used to give me a PSE daily...but now she acts more like a nagging wife. So not much GFE, or PSE at home...just ''NWE'' (new abreviation lol)    |  
I added your sig line as some how I read it as part of the post this time. 
mmmmm and it all fits well some how mmmmmm not good.
  
yet all your reviews are all "yes" at the end. I did not read them and so will take the "yes" is not a lie with the BCD truth in the ROS.
  
Try to treat her as a provider. You know of some jewelry that she would like. Buy it. Put it on yourself. When she says something and she will. Tell her just what you want for her to get it. Then if that leads to sex be a bit ruff. Don't hurt her, just a bit ruff and dirty talk. You stated PSE. Send her flowres the next day with a note. "what do you want next, for I know what I want". If it works great you will have no money to hobby. If it does not work you will have more time to hobby.    |  
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		|  11-05-2010, 04:22 PM | #15 |  
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			TX Playboy, 
Well, ironically Ive never had a boyfriend who treats me anywhere as well as my clients do (!), but I'd consider the following actions from good clients to be BFE: 
  
Take me on romantic or fun vacations, open the car door for me, be kind and considerate, listen and give fair and objective advice when I come to you for it, speak to me respectfully, and basically be chivalrous.  Oh and get me off first    Obviously GFE and BFE are probably much better than most providers and hobbyists have it in real life!
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