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			09-06-2012, 10:15 AM
			
			
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			Epic speech.  Made even better by the undeniable fact that there is nobody in the GOP that could even come close to making a speech like that...much less the plastic man blue-blood candidate they're sporting now.  And the repukes know it, and it drives them flat crazy. 
  
I dunno if Obama can top it tonight, but it is gonna be interesting to watch him try.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 11:26 AM
			
			
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			Let me be clear, NOBama will say the same shit as always.  Here's pretty much a preview: 
 
BLAH BLAH BLAH the poor,  BLAH BLAH BLAH It's Bush's fault, BLAH BLAH BLAH I killed Osama with my own hands, BLAH BLAH BLAH illegals don't worry I will provide for you, etc.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 11:30 AM
			
			
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			Obamazombie on steroids............. 
 
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			09-06-2012, 11:31 AM
			
			
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				TTH, you think Clinton's speech may turn the election. It won't. No one watched, no one cares. Preaching to the choir is all it was. 
			
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			09-06-2012, 11:39 AM
			
			
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			If we are using the "Are you better off" litmus test, YES, I was much better off during the Clinton administration.  Yes, Clinton is a born salesman; he sold partisanims and got things done.  I'd vote for him this November if I could.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 11:57 AM
			
			
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			As good as Bill Clinton's speech was, I believe that President Obama will find new energy and deliver an even more rousing speech tonight. 
 
Al Gore made the sanctimonious miscalculation of underestimating Bill Clinton and put him at arm's length. 
 
President Obama has not made that mistake and mended fences with Bill and is now enjoying his vast support. 
 
. . . Now that the crowd has been warmed up, it is up to President Obama to deliver his message home!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 12:04 PM
			
			
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			I'd hate to have to depend on the support of Bill Clinton. Clinton only supports one person - Bill Clinton.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 12:09 PM
			
			
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			It's not a matter of depending on Bill Clinton. 
 
. . . It's more a matter of a wise leader making use of all the resources available to achieve the objective.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 12:10 PM
			
			
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				If you would not be talking out of your ass you would do your homework first. 
 
The dollar opened September 1, 2008 @ 1 Euro = $ 1.4699 
The dollar opened September 1, 2012 @ 1 Euro = $ 1.2579 
			
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  Notice how you chose to use another troubled currency for comparison: take a look at gold –        
  30 Sep 2008 - ...$874.20
  6 Sep 2012.. - $1,702.00
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 12:55 PM
			
			
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			S&P Chart during Clinton, Disaster Bush and Obama. 
 
Speaks for itself, note that Bush periods both ended with negative numbers, all others of course positive.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 01:21 PM
			
			
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			. . . So which party is really pro-business?
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 01:29 PM
			
			
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			Both parties are pro certain businesses. Oil companies, pharmaceuticals, banks, and defense contractors. Neither is pro your business.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 01:32 PM
			
			
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				S&P Chart during Clinton, Disaster Bush and Obama. 
 
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  Clever (not!) how you deflected.  What the chart shows is a stock market in decline when W took office following Clinton and then another market decline following the housing-bubble bust in 2008: a housing-bubble bust directly attributable to Clinton’s signature on the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 which repealed Glass-Steagall.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-06-2012, 02:08 PM
			
			
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				Clever (not!) how you deflected.  What the chart shows is a stock market in decline when W took office following Clinton and then another market decline following the housing-bubble bust in 2008: a housing-bubble bust directly attributable to Clinton’s signature on the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 which repealed Glass-Steagall. 
			
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			09-06-2012, 02:13 PM
			
			
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				Ask everyone with 401K's: what really counts is results. 
			
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  It's all an illusion if you're ignoring QE1, QE2 and now QE3.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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