how much info should i give for reference check?

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by Copierguy0

+1 Good Advice

DO NOT SHOW YOUR, paycheck stub, drivers lic. social security number, credit cards, bank accounts, business card with real life info, any personal info, car lic plate or type of car. (park around corner)

SHOW ONLY : P411 Handle, Eccie Handle, OK's, References, and Donation.
(If she wants more than that, move on and post her handle in mens loungue)

Some providers will share your info with other providers, or look out the window and capture your type of car and lic. plate number w/o your knowledge. think about it.

CG

I absolutely won't see you if you park around the corner. For your safety as well as mine, I must see your vehicle - and you should want to as well from our room view - to ensure the safety of your car alone for your personal reasons. Personally, its shady to me if you want to hide your car. Don't you want to see it at all times? I understand where you are coming from, but this rule should sort of bend... IMHO . Maybe you shouldn't see that particular provider if she makes you that leery. Pay stub - now that is slightly extreme for me, but if that is what floats her boat and makes her most comfortable, that's HER business. Simply put, move on to another lady. I don't like the way some stores follow me around, so I move on to the next store where they use cameras instead of people for security.

[Copierguy0]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

I absolutely won't see you if you park around the corner. For your safety as well as mine, I must see your vehicle - and you should want to as well from our room view - to ensure the safety of your car alone for your personal reasons. Personally, its shady to me if you want to hide your car. Don't you want to see it at all times? I understand where you are coming from, but this rule should sort of bend... IMHO . Maybe you shouldn't see that particular provider if she makes you that leery. Pay stub - now that is slightly extreme for me, but if that is what floats her boat and makes her most comfortable, that's HER business. Simply put, move on to another lady. I don't like the way some stores follow me around, so I move on to the next store where they use cameras instead of people for security.

Well, it looks like we will NEVER meet then, since I drive a company car during the day with advertising on it. I will be dammed if i let you see that info. and since your in houston, the chance of us meeting are slim, unless you tour and we do outcall. lol if you come by my house, do you want to peek in my garage to see the car also? lol There are OVER 10,000 Providers on P411 and about 1,000 of them in DFW to choose from, do you think if i pass up a few, it will matter? (just a thought) And that my dear, is MY CHOICE. Have you read my sig. line? Preferred411.com (Lifetime Membership) That means that I am P411 Verified & Screened, (ALL the info you need is on my P411 PROFILE, BIO, and OK's) which saves YOU alot of time and worry. A couple clicks of the mouse and a couple phone calls to my OK's, is all the work that you have to do.

CG

[Hamontree]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

its shady to me if you want to hide your car.

When I go to an outcall in my car I park where nobody at the location can see me. I will walk to the location. If I am in a rental car I still park at some distance. If I want to leave for any reason (like things aren't cool) I know the girl will be watching me when I go. My way, someone I never want to see again can't see me get into a car. Peace of mind takes extra work.

[JDNorthface]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

I absolutely won't see you if you park around the corner. For your safety as well as mine, I must see your vehicle - and you should want to as well from our room view - to ensure the safety of your car alone for your personal reasons. Personally, its shady to me if you want to hide your car. ...

Actually, it's standard operating procedure for the careful hobbyist. Always has been. And if a lady's incall is in such a questionable location where he feels he has to park close enough to watch his car then most likely he won't see you.

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by JDNorthface

Actually, it's standard operating procedure for the careful hobbyist. Always has been. And if a lady's incall is in such a questionable location where he feels he has to park close enough to watch his car then most likely he won't see you.

I agree. If a lady screens, you don't worry about trivial things like that. I've often been in hotels where you can't see the parking lot, or been so high up that it didn't matter. The only time I'd be worried about an ambush is if I didn't screen thoroughly, or I was concerned about a guy working for the police. Either way, you'd be "got".

[S-Man]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

I absolutely won't see you if you park around the corner. For your safety as well as mine, I must see your vehicle - and you should want to as well from our room view - to ensure the safety of your car alone for your personal reasons. Personally, its shady to me if you want to hide your car.

It's shady to me if anyone wants to see my car.

[daaaaaman]

PLEASE STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW

GO GET P411

P411 IS GOLDEN

ALL YOU NEED IS P411

FUCK YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
SLUTS UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shep3.0]

WOW...get P411 and if she doesn't have p411. Provide several "provider friendly" references! If she wants more...walk away!

[BBAshley]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

FUCK SCREENING.

Why don't you lull us all with a false sense of security? ANYTHING can be forged. Websites, check stubs, work verification, and references. Who cares if hookers are safe? Who cares if hookers want to keep themselves safe? Don't let a hooker tell you she has a life, or a reason. Why don't you all just cook up all the fake screening stuff you need in order to see the ones you want?

We're all managed.
We're all thieves.
We're all going to blackmail you.
We're all going to stalk you.
We ALL want kids by you.

All our kids have been taken from us by CPS, we've all been busted so many times our backgrounds are so screwed up we can't get a decent place to stay, and we ride around in our pimp's car all day, looking for tricks, so our lives don't matter. We live to break up happy homes and steal your credit cards, and get as much money from you as we can. So stick with girls that don't mind taking the risk of going to jail.

This goes for the ladies AND the gents:
If you're scared, go to church.

I think i love you!

[HoneyRose]

Originally Posted by plaything99

well it hit my gut hard when i saw that she just started an account here on like 7/31, ....

It's very risky to see someone without knowing her reputation and reading her reviews.


Your chances of a great session will be higher is you go with a well-reviewed lady. Especially with some of your assumptions being so far off-base:

1) ... the pics seemed real,
So? Having real pictures doesn't mean she's safe!! I don't know this girl in particular, but there have been numerous cases of providers ripping off clients by having a friend break into his car or sneaking his wallet out of his pants or having a pimp knock on the door to scare them or having a boyfriend pull a gun or blackmailing etc etc who used their real pictures! Not to mention you might just have a crappy date (she won't take her top off, rushes you, hasn't showered in a while, whatever).



2)...professional grade,
Professional grade means nothing. Possibly even a negative! You linked to a Backpage ad. Most professional photos on backpage are NOT the lady you'll meet. A lady starting out on Backpage, or even ECCIE, likely isn't going to outlay cash for a professional photo shoot right out of the gate.


I just took a look at your one review. You reviewed a lady on July 20th who had a post in Welcome Wagon, but wasn't a Verified Provider. And you gave her a "Big Fricking NO!" So you obviously already know that simply having real pictures doesn't guarantee a great time. You've got to add some other criteria to your decision making LOL!

[plaything99]

well i see i may have opened up a bit of a hornet's nest, and if my line of questioning was out of line, i apoligize to those providers i may have insulted, it was not my intent. many hobbiests and MOD's have pm'd me saying that i should join p411, to which i am greatly considering..... however, the questions that the particular provider in question was asking for screening made me feel extremely uncomfortable, which to me was kind of a red flag. i have always been taught to follow that little gut feelings if something seems wrong.

i would never want to make a provider feel uncomfortable or feel unsafe. i think that is why we call this a "hobby" and that we should all "play safe". the way to play safe is to feel safe first, for both the hobbiest and the provider.

yes it is true, my first review was from a provider from backpage, mainly because almost all the ladies that i would absolutely love to see require at least 3-4 reputable references from other providers. since i am still considered a "newbie" i was advised to see providers that are newbie friendly so as to build references. unfortunately that provider was a negative experience, so i was out of my donation as well as being back to square zero in builidng references. so instead of going the backpage route, to which i learned my lesson from, i instead tried to talk to providers that require screening without references so that i may have a better hobby experience. this particular experience just made me feel not good at all, and if i am already not feeling good about a provider on a private chat, then why should i continue to see this provider? where is the sense in that?

anywho, it was not my intent to insult or stir up a hornets nest of negativity, it was to get valuable info so that i may have a better hobby experience in the future to come.

[Tiffani Jameson]

I understand completely Plaything....

No one should begin their journey in this arena playing guessing games. Some ladies build their reputations being honest, and delivering what they promise. I'm surprised that the men that have been screened by these type of women have not stepped forward and recommended someone they have not been burned by.

On that same token, not every lady seeks to start her career on the bottom rung, and working unsafely. Every woman, new or not, deserves to be able to screen. Unlike the lady in your original post, you'll know who has done her research or has had a mentor because she knows what to ask for. You'll know when women have a vision for themselves and her services.

A woman that respects herself respects you. Yeah, I left myself open for that one, but some women take pride in everything they do.

I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors!

[plaything99]

thank you so much ms. tiffani jameson!! and i do completely agree with you on all counts.

play safe, stay safe, be safe... something i think everyone should live by