Obama: Health care law 'is here to stay'

[cinderbella]

FU if you have good health care and think you are paying for someone else's. All you pay for is lining the unfuckingly huge pockets of the CEO's. Your tax dollars already support the fat cat congress healthcare package. If congress had to buy healthcare policies like the rest of us you can bet your ass they would have done something long ago. Healthcare is a basic human right and insurers do everything possible not to pay for lifesaving services. It wasn't the brightest idea to implement but SOMETHING had to be done. Keep listening to your beloved Rush, Mich McConnel and Sarah Palin holier than thou rhetoric and wonder why you are alone with your sick thoughts on a saturday night.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by undercover1

Can't argue with the people that oppose the Healthcare Act. They only show their total disdain for their fellow human beings and are so selfish to the core they have no soul. Sad they can't see they are only a loss of a job, a detection of a major illness (like cancer) to losing what healthcare they do have...and eventually land themselves in bankruptcy. It's so sad to see how poor a moral charcter they do have. It's no wonder this country is in decline.

Europe has had socialized medicine for decades and they're in worse shape than us. If America is in decline, it's because the social welfare state, supported by liberals, is bleeding us dry. We can't afford the social welfare programs we already have; we damn sure can't afford to add Obamacare to the burden.

Those who oppose Obamacare are not the selfish ones. Conservatives give far more money to charity than liberals, and it has nothing to do with income. Liberals are always eager to give away someone else's money and then brag about how charitable they are.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I thought healthcare was going to be free for everyone?

Make up shit about the ACA, complain about it, then pat yourself on the back by telling yourself how smart you are.

What did I miss?

Facts?

[IIFFOFRDB]

Odingdong sucks and his merry crew are a bunch of turd miners...

[Sensia]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Conservatives give far more money to charity than liberals, and it has nothing to do with income.

This actually is untrue. Most who are Democrats or Liberals are the elderly, disabled, poor and minorities. Those who are in very low income brackets. So if you have more money, if your rich or wealthy, or well off you can afford to give more to charity.

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

But trust me, Obama will win. I am certain of that. Take it to the bank, if they haven't failed by then.

Wish I were as confident as you are. But from your lips to God's ears.

[TrailBlazer]

The only way Dictator Obama will win is through martial law or voter fraud. He's losing support by the day and trying to cram in a war with Iran, quietly sneaking in the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty, and obviously more executive orders by November. If he gets another 4 years, there will be no rights, freedom or liberty for us to enjoy. Just oppression, Socialism, Communism, Fascism, and Marxism remain.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Wish I were as confident as you are. But from your lips to God's ears.

You need to visit more often, TTH.

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You need to visit more often, TTH.

Been working and been traveling. Very busy, for good or for ill.

[CuteOldGuy]

Trust me, Obama will win. I'm predicting it.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Sensia

This actually is untrue. Most who are Democrats or Liberals are the elderly, disabled, poor and minorities. Those who are in very low income brackets. So if you have more money, if your rich or wealthy, or well off you can afford to give more to charity.

No, it is true. Liberals have an average income that is slightly higher than conservatives and they give thirty percent less money to charity. Conservatives also donate more time to charity and give more blood. We're the good guys. The Tea Partiers don't get arrested; the Occupiers do.

From Real Clear Politics:

Sixteen months ago, Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, published "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism." The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives.

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).
-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

In 2000, brows were furrowed in perplexity because Vice President Al Gore's charitable contributions, as a percentage of his income, were below the national average: He gave 0.2 percent of his family income, one-seventh of the average for donating households. But Gore "gave at the office." By using public office to give other peoples' money to government programs, he was being charitable, as liberals increasingly, and conveniently, understand that word.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...beral_giv.html

[cinderbella]

This reminds me of a history lesson long ago when voters were asked over the latest luxury item, a home telephone whom they voted for. The pollsters did not take into account that most people did not have phones at the time and the polls only took into account the wealthiest voters. The pollsters incorrectly reported the Republican won, only to be surprised by the Democrat working majority voters outnumbered them.
Too many Republicans see the superpac financing and incorrectly assume the same type of info. Don't underestimate the number of working poor who will be voting in this election to ensure Mitt Romney will not win.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by cinderbella

This reminds me of a history lesson long ago when voters were asked over the latest luxury item, a home telephone whom they voted for. The pollsters did not take into account that most people did not have phones at the time and the polls only took into account the wealthiest voters. The pollsters incorrectly reported the Republican won, only to be surprised by the Democrat working majority voters outnumbered them.
Too many Republicans see the superpac financing and incorrectly assume the same type of info. Don't underestimate the number of working poor who will be voting in this election to ensure Mitt Romney will not win.

I love the terminology you guys use, "the working poor," what a joke. You should have said "working families" that sounds even better. A high percentage of poor people in America are poor because THEY DON'T WORK and they don't want to. They vote for the Dimo's so they can continue sucking on the government teat and live off of someone else's work.

[JD Barleycorn]

37 states? Sounds like a perfect number for a constitutional amendment. Lets talk about prohibition, the first income tax, Dredd Scott, Separate but Equal, etc. they were all constitutional and legal at one time.

33 million? The tragic truth is that after all this the administration admits that several million will still not be covered. If you're going to spend a trillion dollars how about fixing the problem?

People who oppose OBAMACARE (not healthcare reform) are selfish??? No, people who support Obamacare are the selfish SOBs who believe in slavery again. 1/3 more patients, same number of doctors and nurses, same money. Sounds like doctors and healthcare professionals are going to be required to serve man (by being enslaved by selfish people like CJ and underwear.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by TrailBlazer

The only way Dictator Obama will win is through martial law or voter fraud. He's losing support by the day and trying to cram in a war with Iran,

If a war with Iran is what you're afraid of, then Romney is the last guy you should vote for. But that would require the rightwingers to actually believe the crap they say. Kind of like how Mitt Romney is their answer to the mandate.

If he gets another 4 years, there will be no rights, freedom or liberty for us to enjoy. Just oppression, Socialism, Communism, Fascism, and Marxism remain.

Since i suspect i'll tire of this place before 2016, i almost wouldn't mind seeing a Mitt Romney presidency come 2012 - i'd hate to miss the opportunity to watch the "Obama as Socialist Fascist" crowd change their tune with Romney as President.