Opinion please: trust vs. mistrust, when and how

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Ebony Jasmine Love Austin

Just wondering if we are going to have cheerleaders at the Indian Leg Wrestling match, that all.

If you will wear a T-Shirt With a big "W" on the front and "What would Whispers do" on the back I'll buy you Pom Poms.....

[Ebony Jasmine Love Austin]

Originally Posted by Whispers

If you will wear a T-Shirt With a big "W" on the front and "What would Whispers do" on the back I'll buy you Pom Poms.....

Fuuuuck thaaaaaaat.........

Ok I'll do it for 400/hr...... and make it a XXXL.

And I want gold plated pom-poms. Since you're pimp'n like that.

"Dolla' dolla' bill ya'll!"

[homer13]

Yes we are all here paying for or being paid for booty I don't think that is in question. Some though like Whispers have found alternative routes for accomplishing the same end goal. No reason to be hated on for being successful at what one does or how they accomplish it. I think most guys who could get 21 year old hot ladies for $616 for a month would be considered pretty dam good at what they do.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by homer13

I think most guys who could get 21 year old hot ladies for $616 for a month would be considered pretty dam good at what they do.

For accuracy purposes... May was an anomaly...... March was closer to $2K and monthly average is around $1100 now.

[homer13]

$1100-$2000 still very reasonable for all the time spent bcd and non bcd. Last time I had a SB type arrangement I spent somewhere in that neighborhood for a few days a week bcd-non bcd time figuring in money paid and cost's of dates etc..

[Still Looking]

Whenever we get a GOOD DEAL that’s something to be happy about! Perhaps even brag about. I mean after all who doesn't like a good deal... right!

Providers get into the hobby for many different reasons. There have been many threads about the subject. A few of the reasons are as follows:

1) MONEY!
2) Excitement
3) Laziness
4) Sex

Let’s talk about #1 MONEY! Some ladies decide to use the hobby as an ATM when they need some extra cash. They have day jobs. Some have a financial hardship fall upon them or their SO. So it’s done out of necessity. Some find that its easy money and they can't make the same kind of money in the real world.

I've been criticized as being a hobbyist who pays to much for providers. Guilty as charged! I don't negotiate a providers prices. My objective is to have a good time, not fuck ladies out of every penny I can. I realize that there is NO WAY I would be with them if it were not for the money.

Now if I had a young lady / provider move in with me it would obviously be to help her out. She might be a single mom who is down on her luck. Or perhaps someone who is going through a very difficult time in her life. Trust me when I say, I would NOT brag about how CHEAP I could get BCD activities. As a matter of fact it’s happened twice. In both cases there were NO BCD activities. We are all people before we are hobbyists and providers. I would have no RESPECT for anyone who would take advantage of person like that. But then thats just me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX7NNMKBPsw

Try A Little Kindness

If you see your brother standing by the road
With a heavy load from the seeds he's sowed
And if you see your sister falling by the way
Just stop and stay you're going the wrong way

You got to try a little kindness
Yes show a little kindness
Just shine your light for everyone to see
And if you try a little kindness
Then you'll overlook the blindness
Of narrow-minded people on the narrow-minded streets

Don't walk around the down and out
Lend a helping hand instead of doubt
And the kindness that you show every day
Will help someone along their way

You got to try a little kindness
Yes show a little kindness
Just shine your light for everyone to see
And if you try a little kindness
Then you'll overlook the blindness
Of narrow-minded people on the narrow-minded streets

You got to try a little kindness
Yes show a little kindness
Just shine your light for everyone to see
And if you try a little kindness
Then you'll overlook the blindness
Of narrow-minded people on the narrow-minded streets

[homer13]

SL, your describing a different situation for you then what it sounds like the SB guys are going for. They are not helping out a lady down on her luck, they are setting up a p4p schedule that fits both parties needs. Some are all bcd, some are a mix of bcd-non bcd etc....I've never had nor plan to ever have one move in with me. Mine were set up for a few days a week bcd for a set amount (say 3 bills a week). Non Bcd wasn't set up and just happens when it happens.

As far as negotiating goes and overpaying if I ever see a provider I pay sticker price. I go to their p411 account and reviews to figure out what that price is and that's what I pay. The SB and negotiating happens with civie girls and strippers.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by homer13

SL, your describing a different situation for you then what it sounds like the SB guys are going for. They are not helping out a lady down on her luck, they are setting up a p4p schedule that fits both parties needs. Some are all bcd, some are a mix of bcd-non bcd etc....I've never had nor plan to ever have one move in with me. Mine were set up for a few days a week bcd for a set amount (say 3 bills a week). Non Bcd wasn't set up and just happens when it happens.

I've met a lot and I don't think I have met more than a couple of ladies that woke up one morning and decided they wanted to be a whore. The majority of these ladies have a hard luck story of some kind.

Repeat after me..... "If it wasn't me.... It would be somebody else!"

Originally Posted by homer13

As far as negotiating goes and overpaying if I ever see a provider I pay sticker price. I go to their p411 account and reviews to figure out what that price is and that's what I pay. The SB and negotiating happens with civie girls and strippers.

I pay their normal rate as well..... Although I see nothing wrong with haggling or negotiating a better rate with a lady it is not a practice I participate in.

[homer13]

Originally Posted by Whispers

I've met a lot and I don't think I have met more than a couple of ladies that woke up one morning and decided they wanted to be a whore. The majority of these ladies have a hard luck story of some kind.

Repeat after me..... "If it wasn't me.... It would be somebody else!"

I know what your saying, my point was a lady didn't just out of the blue come to me for food or shelter so I tricked her into fucking me. It was a lady I was attracted to that I wanted to fuck that I met at a SC or college or store so I approached them about a reasonable priced p4p arrangement. In either case if she's a stripper or provider and did ask for something from me I would ask for something (sex) in return. I mean duh, this is the hobby and we tell each other everyday you pay to play. That works both ways in my book. I'm not here to be someones BF or lean to either. Just to fuck. Look at the OP in this story, 6 years of pay for play, gifts, money etc.... and for nada



I pay their normal rate as well..... Although I see nothing wrong with haggling or negotiating a better rate with a lady it is not a practice I participate in.

Nothing at all wrong with asking.