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Old 05-25-2012, 02:05 PM   #151
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Ever think that Zimmerman received those injuries as Trevon was standing his ground? Zimmerman should not have been following him, Trevon would have naturally felt threatened if someone was following and yelling at him... I know I would have tried to defend myself.
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:25 PM   #152
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Ever think that Zimmerman received those injuries as Trevon was standing his ground? Zimmerman should not have been following him, Trevon would have naturally felt threatened if someone was following and yelling at him... I know I would have tried to defend myself.
We all know that two people stood their ground and the one with the gun won, as will almost always be the case.

For the rest, I realize your late to the party, but go read the facts and come back. Although retarded is tolerated here, lying after the facts have been presented are not.
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:27 PM   #153
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The fact that I continue to use deflection as a means to defend my asinine and insupportable POV

You are right this is what you do I B defecating the pompous buffoon.
Still another deflection and more proof that you do not know the meaning of the word 'deflection', Ekim the Inbred -- the genetically challenged. You are deflecting and have stopped trying to defend your asinine and insupportable POV that: 1) Zimmerman acted like 'Batman'; 2) Zimmerman acted like 'Rambo'; 3) neighborhood watch volunteers cannot 'walk' in their own neighborhoods; 4) neighborhood watch volunteers cannot 'watch' strangers to ascertain the activities of said stranger.

The fact that you continue to use deflection as a means to defend your asinine and insupportable POV is proof that Ekim the Inbred -- the genetically challenged is an ignorant buffoon.

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Ever think that Zimmerman received those injuries as Trevon was standing his ground? Zimmerman should not have been following him, Trevon would have naturally felt threatened if someone was following and yelling at him... I know I would have tried to defend myself.
No. Zimmerman, as a resident in that neighborhood, had every right to walk in his own neighborhood, and he had every right to be wary of a stranger's presence -- after dark, on a cold, wintery night -- in his neighborhood.
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:23 PM   #154
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No. Zimmerman, as a resident in that neighborhood, had every right to walk in his own neighborhood, and he had every right to be wary of a stranger's presence -- after dark, on a cold, wintery night -- in his neighborhood.[/quo



Just ignore I B the buffoon he acts like he was holding Zimmerman hand at the time of attack.the truth is he has no idea what took place,he only hates blacks,and is happy Martin got wasted.If you ask him a question he will not answer only call you childish names. if you answer his question he cannot remember and will call you childish names,Actually he is a wast of time.
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:24 PM   #155
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No. Zimmerman, as a resident in that neighborhood, had every right to walk in his own neighborhood, and he had every right to be wary of a stranger's presence -- after dark, on a cold, wintery night -- in his neighborhood.
No. Martin, as a free US citizen, had every right to walk in his own neighborhood, and he had every right to be wary of a stranger's presence -- after dark, on a cold, wintery night -- in any neighborhood.

That is what so many of you do not understand. That law itself encourages people who are macho-tendencied (or under the influence of strange chemicals) to escalate situations. When legality of escalation is in the mind of the individual it is a very dangerous thing.

Two men run into each other in a dark alley in a less than desierable part of town. Both have the right to be there--though what their motives are no one knows. One is feels threatened and pulls a knife. The other feels threatened and pulls a gun. One gets killed--it doesn't matter much which one. The one who lives is wounded--either before or after the other one "threatened me; I was convinced he was going to kill me".

No witnesses either way, but the survivor claims he was only standing his ground.

It will be very difficult to prove intent, or that the person was not afraid for their life. It will be very difficult to prove if it was justified or not.

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And before you wet your pants IB, I am talking aboutthe law involved--not about one instantiation in Z vs M so save your electrons before you respond with some off the wall crap.
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:46 PM   #156
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Put the blame where it needs to be put - parents!
What is so hard for people to understand about this? Parents, control your kids and keep them in on dark, cold, wintery nights. If you lack the parenting skills to control your children, at the least, teach them where the wrong places are, and when is the wrong time to be there. If they show up anyway, you'll likely be visiting them at the morgue, simple as that.

People are sick and tired of gangs and criminals taking over their neiborhoods and the police do little to nothing to stop them. That is the reason these laws exist in the first place and Trayvon won't be the last, but hopefully the last we have to hear about.
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:24 PM   #157
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No. Martin, as a free US citizen, had every right to walk in his own neighborhood, and he had every right to be wary of a stranger's presence -- after dark, on a cold, wintery night -- in any neighborhood.

That is what so many of you do not understand. That law itself encourages people who are macho-tendencied (or under the influence of strange chemicals) to escalate situations. When legality of escalation is in the mind of the individual it is a very dangerous thing.

Two men run into each other in a dark alley in a less than desierable part of town. Both have the right to be there--though what their motives are no one knows. One is feels threatened and pulls a knife. The other feels threatened and pulls a gun. One gets killed--it doesn't matter much which one. The one who lives is wounded--either before or after the other one "threatened me; I was convinced he was going to kill me".

No witnesses either way, but the survivor claims he was only standing his ground.

It will be very difficult to prove intent, or that the person was not afraid for their life. It will be very difficult to prove if it was justified or not.

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And before you wet your pants IB, I am talking aboutthe law involved--not about one instantiation in Z vs M so save your electrons before you respond with some off the wall crap.
No, Old-goaT, you have it wrong. It is you who has posted "off-the-wall-crap".

It wasn't Martin's neighborhood. He was the stranger there. Just days before his death, Martin was suspended from school for possession of illegal drug paraphernalia. Martin -- who normally lived with his mother -- was temporarily staying with his father who was himself freeloading at his girlfriend's apartment.
Martin was a stranger who was visiting -- not living -- there.

Ultimately, Martin was shot. Despite your twisting of facts and distortion of details, Old-goaT, Martin was not
shot because he bought a bag of Skittles. Despite your twisting of facts and distortion of details, Old-goaT, Martin was not because he was black. Martin was shot because he committed a felonious, violent assault against Zimmerman.


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Just ignore I B the buffoon he acts like he was holding Zimmerman hand at the time of attack.the truth is he has no idea what took place,he only hates blacks,and is happy Martin got wasted.If you ask him a question he will not answer only call you childish names. if you answer his question he cannot remember and will call you childish names,Actually he is a wast of time.
Ekim the Inbred -- the genetically challenged it is you who deserves to be ignored. You have posted your asinine and insupportable POV that: 1) Zimmerman acted like 'Batman'; 2) Zimmerman acted like 'Rambo'; 3) neighborhood watch volunteers cannot 'walk' in their own neighborhoods; 4) neighborhood watch volunteers cannot 'watch' strangers to ascertain the activities of said stranger. Ekim the Inbred -- the genetically challenged, you remain an ignorant buffoon.

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Old 05-25-2012, 05:34 PM   #158
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It wasn't Martin's neighborhood. He was the stranger there.
So the first commandment acording to IB is strangers deseve to die unless they have written permission to be there. The fact he was a "stranger" has nothing to do with his right to be there. Or are you saying otherwise?

Just days before his death, Martin was suspended from school for possession of illegal drug paraphernalia.
Clearly a crime punishable by death. And Zimmerman knew this. Total bull shit, IB.

Martin -- who normally lived with his mother -- was temporarily staying with his father who was himself freeloading at his girlfriend's apartment.
What does this have to do with living or dieing? So people who live with one parent but sometimes stay with the other are fair game to be shot? If you don't believe that, what the hell does this have to do with anything?

Martin was a stranger who was visiting -- not living -- there. Yes, as you said, a stranger. Therefor a target? Again, either that is your point, in which case you are stupid, or it is not your point, in which case you blither. Of course it could welll be both.

Ultimately, Martin was shot. Aha! We agree on something.

Despite your twisting of facts and distortion of details, Old-goaT, Martin was not shot because he bought a bag of Skittles. Never said he was shot for skittles. That is a distortion, lie, untruth, or whatever nicer sounding word you care to use. Remember, that is not allowed if you really believe the 10 commandments.

Despite your twisting of facts and distortion of details, Old-goaT, Martin was not because he was black. Martin was shot because he committed a felonious, violent assault against Zimmerman. Or because he was trying to defend himself from someone he thought was stalking him. I guess we will never hear Martin's version of what happened. And acording to you, the stand your ground law doesn't apply to a young man who might feel threatened by someone stalking him at night. Nope, you have set yourself up as the judge and wanna be executioner.
What a mix of lies, hatered, and stupid comments. As is typical god fearing IB. Except when it comes to Thou Shalt Not Lie, and sometimes Thou Shalt Not Kill. Other than that he's a pretty good guy.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:06 PM   #159
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What a mix of lies, hatered, and stupid comments. As is typical god fearing IB. Except when it comes to Thou Shalt Not Lie, and sometimes Thou Shalt Not Kill. Other than that he's a pretty good guy.
Try again Old-goaT, as already stated -- and despite your enormous attempt to twist facts, distort details and fabricate scenarios -- Martin was shot because he committed a felonious, violent assault against Zimmerman.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:34 PM   #160
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You really are sad beyond belief. I truly pity you. You ignore what you don't want to see. You delude yourself that you are insightful and clever. You are a parody of yourself.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:45 PM   #161
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You really are sad beyond belief. I truly pity you. You ignore what you don't want to see. You delude yourself that you are insightful and clever. You are a parody of yourself.
Old-goaT you are are a liberal, MSM, Kool Aid drinking fool. Your every factual error was first perpetuated by a Talking Head on one of the MSM networks to stir racial animosity for the sake of ratings. And you've done nothing more than parrot their fallacious lies.

Point by point your lies have been pointed out to you, and yet you persist in your delusion that you are right.
The fact remains, Old-goaT, despite your enormous attempts to twist facts, distort details and fabricate absurd scenarios, Martin was shot because he committed a felonious, violent assault against Zimmerman.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:47 PM   #162
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Distraction that is almost DEAD. Let it ROT and the buzzards will eat it.....
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:51 PM   #163
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What a mix of lies, hatered, and stupid comments. As is typical god fearing IB. Except when it comes to Thou Shalt Not Lie, and sometimes Thou Shalt Not Kill. Other than that he's a pretty good guy.

+1 think that is it in a nut shell
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Some can walk it back gracefully, some fall flat on their ass and look like an idiot. Take lessons from Obama for all the fans, he's gotten good at it.
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+1 think that is it in a nut shell
IB did not kill anyone. Ted now that's a different story.
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