Discrete source for Vitamin V

[Bobalouie]

I'm screwed if my SO got to the mail before me and opened a package with Viagra. She would say "what in the hell do you need this for, we're not boinking". Does anyone know of a discrete way to get this stuff other than an MD? Thx

[old-tyme-racer]

Let me know when you find out. I am in the same deal.

Thanks

[charlestudor2005]

I read a lot of stories about fake V so you gotta be careful.

I suggest the Canadian online pharmacies. See if you can set up a PO Box, either at a real post office or at a private "mail" store that offers mail boxes for rent. Normally, the address to you is "xxxx Main st., ste. 804" where 804 is the mail box number.

[ANONONE]

Try picking up Extenze.




I don't know about Viagra, but after a surgery two years ago I was on Cialis for a few months as I recovered, but it was so damned expensive (insurance never covers it--even if you have a legit medical need) I decided to try some of that product when I saw a trial sample pack on a counter display at the liquor store next to the pharmacy.

My experience was that two of their tabs taken about 80 minutes before a session worked as well as one Cialis. It did wear off a bit faster--about 24 hours as opposed to about three of four days on the Cialis, but at $5.99 for five tabs compared to $65.00 for three Rx tabs, I think it works just fine.

I am not sure how either product works if you don't actually have a medical problem.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by ANONONE

(insurance never covers it--even if you have a legit medical need)

Actually, my insurance covers it like it does all other meds. V is the preferred drug, so my copay for that is less than C.

Somewhere else on this board there was a discussion of some other over the counter supp that worked well. I don't remember the name or the thread. Chip in if you do...

[Jake2.1]

Work out a deal with your ATF and have it shipped to her along with your favorite condoms.

I was on a swinger site and some guys were saying they bought through India since most of the V in Canada is made in India (their words). I tried to find out what site they were using but so far no luck. Several people were just going to Mexico to pick up generic V.

My insurance covers V but like 2 pills a month (which I find stupid). One tip with V is get the largest dose and split the pill. I can quarter a 100 mg pill and get fine results plus if I am going to a session that i want more assurance, I may then just up to half a pill.

[Omahan]

[Edited message - never mind. Omahan]

[pyramider]

Just go to Mexico and stop in any pharmacy. Get the name brand or generic, its your choice.

Apparently, the icky does not have an endorsement deal worked out with the male enhancement pills.

[Guest121212]

The legality and risks of purchasing drugs online depend on the specific kind and amount of drug being purchased.

• While rarely enforced, it is usually illegal to purchase controlled substances from an overseas pharmacy. Generally speaking, a person purchasing a controlled substance from such a pharmacy may be violating two federal laws that carry stiff penalties. The act of importation of the drug from overseas violates 21 USC, Section 952 (up to 5 years in prison and $250,000 fine for importation of non-narcotic Schedule III, IV, or V drugs; possibly more for narcotics and Schedule I and II drugs). The act of simple possession of a controlled substance without a valid prescription violates 21 USC, Section 844 (up to 1 year in prison and $1,000 fine). Note that FDA does not recognize online prescriptions. For the prescription to be valid, there must be a face-to-face relationship between the patient and the health care professional prescribing the drug. What exactly constitutes a "face-to-face" relationship is considered by many online pharmacies to be a subjective definition that would allow them to operate as an adjunct to the patient's own physician if the patient submits medical records documenting a condition for which the requested medication is deemed appropriate for treatment. Sections 956 and 1301 provide exemptions for travelers who bring small quantities of controlled substances in or out of the country in person, but these exemptions do not cover delivery via a mail carrier.
• Importation of any prescription drug (not necessarily a controlled substance) violates 21 USC, Section 301(aa), unless the following conditions are met (as listed in Section 804):
  1. The drug is imported from Canada, or from an approved seller registered with the Secretary (i.e. with FDA);
  2. The drug is imported from a licensed pharmacy for personal use by an individual, not for resale, in quantities that do not exceed a 90-day supply;
  3. The drug is accompanied by a copy of a valid prescription;
  4. The drug is a prescription drug approved by the Secretary;
  5. The drug is in the form of a final finished dosage that was manufactured in an establishment registered under section 510; and
  6. The drug is imported under such other conditions as the Secretary determines to be necessary to ensure public safety.
• The law further specifies that enforcement should be focused on cases in which the importation by an individual poses a significant threat to public health, and discretion should be exercised to permit individuals to make such importations in circumstances in which the prescription drug or device imported does not appear to present an unreasonable risk to the individual.
• According to Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, Section 535, Customs and Border Patrol are not allowed to prevent people from importing FDA-approved prescription drugs. Although originally the law was worded to cover all prescription drugs, countries of origin, and methods of delivery, its final edition specifies that it only applies to importation from Canada, and to "...individuals transporting on their person a personal-use quantity of the prescription drug, not to exceed a 90-day supply". Controlled substances are also explicitly excluded. Therefore, it does not disallow Customs to screen and intercept drugs sent by mail.
• It is also technically illegal to import "non-approved" drugs (21 USC sections 331(d) and 355(a)); however, FDA policies suggest that, under certain circumstances, the patients may be allowed to keep these drugs.
• Individual U.S. states may implement their own laws regulating importation, possession, and trafficking in prescription drugs and/or controlled substances.
• For several years, the states of Nevada, Minnesota, Illinois and Wisconsin have run official state programs to help their residents order lower-cost drugs from abroad to save money.
• Most online pharmacies worldwide send consumers a free replacement order if their order is not received for any reason, including customs seizure (some do require the customer to submit a copy of the seizure letter from customs, to prevent fraudulent claims). Normally, consumers should wait about 30 days after placing their order before considering this option. When considering an order, a prospective customer should read the rules regarding reships on the pharmacy's website.

Therefore, under certain conditions, Viagra MAY be imported under section 804 of 21 USC, Section 301(aa) in most States.

I order certain pharmaceuticals from http://www.inhousepharmacy.com when those conditions are met, and many of my clients have had wonderful results using this product: http://www.inhousepharmacy.com/generics/silagra.html.

IF you have met the requirements to legally order and import Sildenafil (Viagra) - the aforementioned company is an excellent resource that has proven highly reliable with a 100% delivery rate in my experience, fulfilling every order in under 14 days. And, this company meets "804" requirements. Every order has arrived via the US Postal Service and has an accompanying tracking number. In the case of orders exceeding $100.00 US a signature is occasionally required; anyone over the age of majority in the jurisdiction to which the parcel is delivered may sign for the package.

I trust that this posting, in this manner, will satisfy the requirement to not promote or condone an illegal act.

And, to answer the OP's question, have it shipped to a different address other than your own; there is a provision in statute for accepting the package at an alternative address other than your home.

Happy ordering (legally, of course).

Thanks for reading, and remember to tip your waitress.

Kisses,

- Jackie

[old-tyme-racer]

My problem is the SO and I both go to the same MD, many times on the same time slot, have been going to him for about 20 years, I know the HIPA Laws say he can't say anything to her, but some things are best not to ask or to say. I know you have to have a LEGAL RX for this. I don't mind paying the price for made in the USA drugs.

[Guest121624]

I get samples from my urologist.

[Thelonious]

Be careful with so-called "Canadian" pharmacies. To order prescription medication from a genuine Canadian pharmacy, you need a prescription from your doctor as well as his/her contact info.

Many claim to be Canadian but are in fact operating in another country. Their only Canadian presence may be a PO box.

There are no generics for Vitamins V/C/L manufactured or for sale legally in Canada at this time.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by jackie@sintropolis

• According to Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, Section 535, Customs and Border Patrol are not allowed to prevent people from importing FDA-approved prescription drugs. Although originally the law was worded to cover all prescription drugs, countries of origin, and methods of delivery, its final edition specifies that it only applies to importation from Canada, and to "...individuals transporting on their person a personal-use quantity of the prescription drug, not to exceed a 90-day supply". Controlled substances are also explicitly excluded. Therefore, it does not disallow Customs to screen and intercept drugs sent by mail.

- Jackie

Good info, Jackie. I live close to the Mexican border. If you go across (not the wisest advice in the current violent climate), you can buy most prescribed drugs over the counter. That's just the way it is in MX. Since you purchased them legally in MX, the US has to recognize the legality of the purchase. As Jackie stated above, you get to carry a "personal use" amount across the border. She says 90 days, but as a practical matter, the Border Patrol will let you do about 6 months since they have no idea how much a 90 day supply is and they don't count the pills.

Originally Posted by vernors1940

My problem is the SO and I both go to the same MD, many times on the same time slot, have been going to him for about 20 years, I know the HIPA Laws say he can't say anything to her, but some things are best not to ask or to say. I know you have to have a LEGAL RX for this. I don't mind paying the price for made in the USA drugs.

Go to a local cheap clinic. Pay cash. No records for the SO to find and you still get your script. Then purchase with the hints in this thread.

[Guest121212]

The generic Sildenafil (Viagra) that is available is manufactured in India or Australia by Cipla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cipla) - a manufacturer recognized by the World Health Organization as safe and used as the primary supplier of antibiotics and HIV medications to Africa and other developing nations. Cipla manufactures vast quantities of generics and distributes them world-wide, even through your local Wal-Mart. In India, there is little if any patent protection on medications, as the Indian government places public health and welfare concerns above the profiteering of drug manufacturers. In some sense this policy is awesome for organizations like the WHO that can get medicines into developing countries cheaply . . . in other ways, of course, it dilutes a US, European or Chinese manufacturer's profits that offset development of the drug and funds further research and new drug investigation . . . in that sense, buying a generic of certain pharmaceuticals from a pharmacy carrying Cipla products may be morally questionable (so far as patent and profit is concerned, but that is why most of us buy from Canada and other countries in the first place, isn't it?) but you're saving a ton.

No generics of most any ED medication are available in Canada becasue in many respects they are the "51st State" and they have trade and other agreements with the US that prohibit the manufacture of generic Sildenafil and other medications still protected by patent.

Section 804 (as I referenced above) does not make the qualification that the pharmacy be located in Canada any longer, just that it be on an approved list. Also, ANY pharmacy that has ANY presence in Canada can import legally into the US from any OTHER country - the drug does not necessarily have to come from Canada, just a pharmacy with a Canadian presence . . . so yes, some have a PO Box. If you buy wisely there's no harm dealing with a pharmacy that has done this. How is it different than legitimate companies that take advantage of loopholes in statute here in the US to gain a government contract or shelter from tax? Just because they maintain a PO box in Canada doesn't mean they're going to send you substandard goods.

The pharmacy I referenced is in Vanuatu and imports from Australia (where many prescription "generic" laws are relaxed) or directly from India. They are compliant by having a registered office in Canada. They carry few if any pharmaceuticals manufactured in China.

BTW, vernors - you'd be amazed at how much of the US drug supply isn't made in the US . . . the vast majority of generics and a large percentage of "on patent" medications are imported form overseas, manufactured by Jassen or other companies by contract from Pfizer, Abbott, etc. You're not always paying for a drug manufactured in the good ole' USA, you are just paying good ole' USA prices.

For my money, I'll go offshore to Vanuatu every chance I get . . . the quality is awesome and the efficacy is the same. It is coming from the same manufacturer in India employing the identical quality control standards used for manufacturing generics for export from India into the US and Europe.

However, I will never knowingly purchase a Chinese manufactured product.

BTW, vernors . . . if you step out on your wife to hobby and are successfully clandestine enough to pull that off, you could just as easily sneak off to another general practitioner for a valid script for ED medication . . . just a thought, no offense is offered.

Kisses,

- Jackie

[ANONONE]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Actually, my insurance covers it like it does all other meds. V is the preferred drug, so my copay for that is less than C.

Somewhere else on this board there was a discussion of some other over the counter supp that worked well. I don't remember the name or the thread. Chip in if you do...

Is your co-pay less than $20.00 a tab?