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			I think,if you like firearms it is like the difference between a marksman and a trick shooter.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I think,if you like firearms it is like the difference between a marksman and a trick shooter. 
			
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PSE = BBFS?  (Again, with the firearms, Russian Roulette)   
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				For me GFE is girl friend like experience!! Not being smart but like you and your S.O. would experience.Not a "Hey I'm here for this lets do IT and get the HELL out" A little quality time cuddling and getting to know one another like you and an ole girlfriend. But those of you that know ME know GFE!! Hopefully!!! Or am i advertising wrong maybe it should be GFE with PSE twist don't mean to change the subject...Happy New YEar and New Board 
			
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			01-04-2010, 10:14 AM
			
			
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				Now that's a good one.  
PSE = BBFS?  (Again, with the firearms, Russian Roulette)    
			
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Smiley noted.
 
I'm not aware of very many ladies--more accurately, I don't know of  any ladies--offering a PSE who offer BBFS. Maybe there are some (anything's possible), but I haven't run across them. Most ladies I am aware of who claim to offer a PSE use protection for at least "the main event", and why shouldn't they? It's pretty obvious (based on the pornos I've watched recently) that even some porn actors use protection nowadays.
 
I'm not interested in PSE myself, but the impression I have is that the lady will act more like a porn star in a movie, vice treating you like a girlfriend. What does that ultimately mean? Well, I guess compare the last time you made love with your girlfriend to the last time you watched Jenna Jameson or Nina Hartley in one of your favorite pornos, and maybe you can figure it out.
  
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			01-04-2010, 10:32 AM
			
			
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			Also, before BCD, I like it when they will meet you for drinks or go out to eat. Some will at a reduced rate or no money, to get to know you better. It makes it feel more like a real date, only better because your sure how this date will end.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-04-2010, 05:54 PM
			
			
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				Great discussion. As an Arkansas Traveler, I'd like to pose a similar question... what is the difference bewteen GFE and PSE? 
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Good Question. . . . probably , a little  less easy to answer!
 PSE Prerequisites :
 1st -  CIM should be on the menu.... whether it be NQBS or NQNS (although , I feel CIM fits in quite easily with GFE)
 2nd - When I think of PSE....  Greek should be on the menu
 3rd -  Most difficult to define.... the  Ultimate Slut Quotient.... nastier than your best dreams.... without feeling or sounding overly fake.... to the point, where you  know it cums easy for her!!   
4th - Maybe , a little BDSM thrown in , if desired (not really my cup of tea)
 
I'll be interested in hearing DeAnna's thoughts on my definitions, above!   
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			01-04-2010, 07:28 PM
			
			
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				I'm not aware of very many ladies--more accurately, I don't know of any ladies--offering a PSE who offer BBFS.  
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I strongly concur.  There are a couple of places in TX where the word got out last year that a provider (normally not one well thought of to begin with) started engaging in BBFS.  The race to avoid such a provider could only be measured in light years.  Nearly all hobbyists avoided the lady like the plague.  I can't imagine that her business thrived at all.  Too much risk, from taking disease home to dying of AIDS.
 
PSE, IMHO, normally means the provider will imitate pornstar activities (fucking, sucking & CIM, COB), whereas GFEs are more into the snuggling, cuddling, kissing.  Yes, with GFEs, sex is most definitely on the menu (as are the activities mentioned above), as are other things, but the whole experience has a different flavor.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			IMHO, GFE is a provider that in "into it" while on the date with you.  If she is mentally preparing her next grocery list, I don't want to know about it.  Don't make me realize it.  I think Giz calls it the "illusion of intimacy".  Being friendly and sincere goes a long way. 
 
MSOG is never really an issue for me.  I'm usually done after the first "goal" but I sometimes will like to just hang out and chat for a few minutes.  A GFE would not have a problem with this, provided there is time remaining. 
 
I've had decent CBJs before, but as everyone agrees, it's not the same.  I don't think I have every climaxed from CBJ.  Once I thought I was getting an awesome CBJ. I was just thinking to myself that this was the best CBJ ever, and then I looked down to discover she had done away with the C without me noticing and it was now a BBBJ. 
 
As for the discussion about BBFS... not no, but HELL no.  Everyone hates the feel of condoms, but it's just not worth the risk.  I would not even see a provider that offers it, and I damn sure wouldn't participate.  I've only had an uncovered good time with a few people in my life and I'm completely fine with that.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-04-2010, 11:41 PM
			
			
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			You trying to be funny Giz  lmao    
seems you hit it pretty darn near on the head..  personally i think CIM with swallow is essential..and GREEK GREEK AND MORE GREEK are a must if your claiming PSE.. yes..i think attitude in regards to pse just like gfe plays a big part but also gotta have some "taboo" or nastier in a good way stuff on the menu..not just the pse attitude..
 
agreed to..natural dirty talk, a general impression that this girl intends on taking it like you see girls on the porns take it, perhaps not a lot of sensuality etc just raw s.e.x.   as you said giz..it can't be so over the top or cheezy that its fake.. its gotta flow naturally and overall kinda be like you see in a gonzo type porn..in my opinion..
 
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				Good Question. . . . probably , a little  less easy to answer!
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 1st -  CIM should be on the menu.... whether it be NQBS or NQNS (although , I feel CIM fits in quite easily with GFE)
 2nd - When I think of PSE....  Greek should be on the menu
 3rd -  Most difficult to define.... the  Ultimate Slut Quotient.... nastier than your best dreams.... without feeling or sounding overly fake.... to the point, where you  know it cums easy for her!!   
4th - Maybe , a little BDSM thrown in , if desired (not really my cup of tea)
 
I'll be interested in hearing DeAnna's thoughts on my definitions, above!   
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GFE = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG 
GFE++ = RBGFE with extras (like CIM,swallow,greek) 
RB = myredbook.com 
RBGFE = myRedBook's definintion of GFE (BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				awww thats the chicken sh*t way of doing it  lol.. 
			
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			This turned out to be quite the discussion. Thanks for the input... so to speak.   
Can't wait to make it back to AR!
 
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			Deanna   I'm in love!!! Here, swallow this and then I'll give you more!! 
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				You trying to be funny Giz  lmao    
seems you hit it pretty darn near on the head..  personally i think CIM with swallow is essential..and GREEK GREEK AND MORE GREEK are a must if your claiming PSE.. yes..i think attitude in regards to pse just like gfe plays a big part but also gotta have some "taboo" or nastier in a good way stuff on the menu..not just the pse attitude..
 
agreed to..natural dirty talk, a general impression that this girl intends on taking it like you see girls on the porns take it, perhaps not a lot of sensuality etc just raw s.e.x.   as you said giz..it can't be so over the top or cheezy that its fake.. its gotta flow naturally and overall kinda be like you see in a gonzo type porn..in my opinion..
 
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			Canoodle, Canoodle, Canoodle... its not nice to make promises you don't keep      lol
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Now DeAnna, have you ever known a man that didn't keep his promise?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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