TRAITS OF A UPSCALE,HIGH CLASS PROVIDER

[alluringava]

The amount of snobbery of some of the so-called HDH girls never fails to amaze me. And then I find out some of them work under different names, personas, and much lower prices.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by alluringava

The amount of snobbery of some of the so-called HDH girls never fails to amaze me. And then I find out some of them work under different names, personas, and much lower prices.

Most of them, if not all, do so. I am just annoyed by people pretending to be better than others, snob about "cheaper rate" escorts, and then go around having financial issues, and - in the long run - also bringing down their rates.

I assume many HDHs also bargain and don`t have fixed rates. At least here inn europe it happens, for travel purposes. I always let the clients for longer travels make offers to me instead of having fixed rates on my page and then bargain with them for hours and ages, which is offensive for me and them. I have heard about HDHs doing that. It`s kind of humiliating.

And of course, when I travel, I also have hourly rates, as opposed to the 2 hour minimum I advertise on my page , for, when someone books me from outside in the areas I have apartments.

I think it is best to be flexible. Never stray from your minimum rate or minimum standards, but be flexible for longer dates, or travel arrangements. I mean for me personally, I have stricter standards for the cities I live in, as I don`t want to attract locals for several reasons. In Lisbon or Vienna no one would pay a minimum for 2 hours and 600 euro, because guys are fixated on hours, and these for about 150 to 300 maximum.

I want to attract travel clients on purpose, because I don`t want to be the "town whore" as I also have a job in the marketing area that needs attention, too. So I hardly have appointments in my "base" cities, except from foreign clients who book me for travel and need the 2hours as introduction.

Of course, when I travel to other parts of the world, and I have incall possibilities (in the rare time I travel with incalls ... nowadays ... ) I do offer hourly rates , would be freakin`n stupid if I didn`t. ... ;-))

So for me it is about being not judgemental, not looking down on others and being flexible in many ways.


BTW: Can we make this the looooooooooooongest thread on eccie and possibly apply for the world records, too?

[macdeft]

doesn't greet you at the door in the same underwear she had on for her six o-clock

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by macdeft

doesn't greet you at the door in the same underwear she had on for her six o-clock

;-))))

doesn`do bareback , ever ;-)

[alluringava]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

Most of them, if not all, do so. I am just annoyed by people pretending to be better than others, snob about "cheaper rate" escorts, and then go around having financial issues, and - in the long run - also bringing down their rates.

I assume many HDHs also bargain and don`t have fixed rates. At least here inn europe it happens, for travel purposes. I always let the clients for longer travels make offers to me instead of having fixed rates on my page and then bargain with them for hours and ages, which is offensive for me and them. I have heard about HDHs doing that. It`s kind of humiliating.

And of course, when I travel, I also have hourly rates, as opposed to the 2 hour minimum I advertise on my page , for, when someone books me from outside in the areas I have apartments.

I think it is best to be flexible. Never stray from your minimum rate or minimum standards, but be flexible for longer dates, or travel arrangements. I mean for me personally, I have stricter standards for the cities I live in, as I don`t want to attract locals for several reasons. In Lisbon or Vienna no one would pay a minimum for 2 hours and 600 euro, because guys are fixated on hours, and these for about 150 to 300 maximum.

I want to attract travel clients on purpose, because I don`t want to be the "town whore" as I also have a job in the marketing area that needs attention, too. So I hardly have appointments in my "base" cities, except from foreign clients who book me for travel and need the 2hours as introduction.

Of course, when I travel to other parts of the world, and I have incall possibilities (in the rare time I travel with incalls ... nowadays ... ) I do offer hourly rates , would be freakin`n stupid if I didn`t. ... ;-))

So for me it is about being not judgemental, not looking down on others and being flexible in many ways.


BTW: Can we make this the looooooooooooongest thread on eccie and possibly apply for the world records, too?

You're 100% right, Nina. MANY of the so-called HDHs that I've known were always looking down on the 'cheaper girls' ( and to them a 'cheaoer girl LOL could be a 400.00 an hour girl.). I call this phenomena 'othering' because what it does is it puts the HDH on a higher pedestal so she can look down on everyone else as 'cheaper, other prostitutes'. We are ALL on the same bus, even if some of us drive a Mercedes or have no car. It's true that there's different levels of service, a streetwalker might not give GFE in an elegant setting and an HDH is certainly not going to give service in her broke-down car, but we are all selling a service for a price, albeit that price be 1000, or 10 dollars. And the irony is, at a very high price range, many clients expect ( or the girl offers) BBFS, whereas streetwalkers, with their very high volume, would more be inclined to use condoms because of the fear of AIDS from so many of the men they see. I'm not saying that a HDH client can't carry diseases, but, I know ironically of some of my own HDH friends who do BBFS because they feel they have to and some clients ( remember Elliott Spitzer? It was said that the men who frequented that Emperor's Club escort service expected BBFS because of the 2000 dollar an hour price they paid...they didn't want to use a condom).


I think a lot of HDH is how a girl presents herself and not just her price. I charge an average of 300 an hour, 400 for the Spa Treatment, but I like to make myself feel good so I can present myself to a client elegantly and what is my definition of class: having an elegant, clean room, plenty of fresh towels and accoutrements ( bottles of mouthwash, disposable toothbrushes, bags of mints, unscented washing products when they take a shower), and wearing expensive lingerie. This doesn't make me a HDH, but it makes me a courtesan, and I feel a lot better about what I do for a living than if I worked out of a dump that was dirty and wore torn, ratty underwear, no matter how good the service I gave, or how attractive I may look. Feeling good about one's work is all in the attitude and to me, in the surroundings and how you feel about yourself and what you do to deliver good customer service.

[Chiara.Delano]

OMG 25 pages on this thread wow!

I will get to reading this as soon as I have a minute or 60....

The true HDH's do not advertise on the internet and are found by word of mouth only!!! sssshhhhhh.....

Xoxox

[JDNorthface]

Originally Posted by Chiara.Delano

OMG 25 pages on this thread wow!

I will get to reading this as soon as I have a minute or 60....

The true HDH's do not advertise on the internet and are found by word of mouth only!!! sssshhhhhh.....

Xoxox

Mostly correct. Some of the true HDH's are found this way. But some can indeed be found on the internet. WHERE you find them is the issue...

[Missy Mariposa]

Hah I had no idea girls work under 2 names for less money. What's the point? Shaking my head here.

[alluringava]

Originally Posted by Missy Mariposa

Hah I had no idea girls work under 2 names for less money. What's the point? Shaking my head here.

Some even have more names and numbers. There's one I knew of who had four names, four prices, and four phone numbers. I guess she wanted to appeal to the whole market :P

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by alluringava

You're 100% right, Nina. MANY of the so-called HDHs that I've known were always looking down on the 'cheaper girls' ( and to them a 'cheaoer girl LOL could be a 400.00 an hour girl.). I call this phenomena 'othering' because what it does is it puts the HDH on a higher pedestal so she can look down on everyone else as 'cheaper, other prostitutes'.

True, and trust me, from what I have seen, the HDHs who are as pretentious and looking down on others, as described above (not all are like that, mind you) are the most of the times the dumbest Bimbos ever. I could tell you stories.... you would laugh your ass off if you had seen what I saw BCD :-). Many of them, specially the arrogant ones (maybe that IS why they are arrogant and need to feel so superiour, at least on their blogs and homepages..) are more dependent on their escort job than any 400$ escort ever could be. I remember the thread on here where the question came up if a certain HDH (her name was not mentioned) had the right to confront her client about some racist attitude. I found that so ridiculous given the fact that most HDHs pretend to not "need" their clients. I mean hell yeah, at least I don`t need to suck up to some racist because I can`t afford to loose him based on my finances . Many stories like this that make me laugh so hard ;-)....

I sometimes wonder why this "Othering" (you are absolutely right on that - spot on!!! ) has to happen? Probably because these HDHs in question have problems with escorting and try hard to pretend they are not like what usually is presented as escorts. But - the problem with that is - if you do say you are "not like all the others" you actually agree with the mass of "escort bashers" that say that most escorts are dumb, dependent and have no education. O drug addicts and whatnot. Like it is presented from heteronormative mass media.

That is what I personally see as dangerous for political reasons. I once heard a HDH say that she thinks her BF won`t find any other escort as smart as she is, because most often escorts are dumb. Hello? I was wondering if she was talking about the ones she exchanged links with, or who she was actually referring to? Because how would people have the idea that "all othe escorts are dumb and I am the smartest one" if not because they watch too much CSI or whatnot?

Certainly not from interacting on a real personal level with other escorts. And if she was talking about the one`s she exchanged links with... ha... even worse.

There are two rules I found in life (and escorting):
- Those who need to make others feel bad about their choices or tell them how superiour they are in comparison - be it with a snobbish attitude or homepage - are 100% the ones, who actually have a very low self esteem, and get treated like shit (and don`t defend themselves) by clients or men, and are highly dependent on what men think of them. Or they get themselves into dependency from a client and need to do things they don`t really like to do , but have to (unlike all the 400$ escorts who have many more clients and can say "f&ck off" to jerks more easily then - as cynicism has it....)

- Those women, who need to talk about looks and critizise other people`s looks, are most often the ones who don`t look so well themselves.

I don`t know why that is - or if its just my personal "Murphy`s law", but These are things I found out most often to be true

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by alluringava

S I guess she wanted to appeal to the whole market :P

I assume,that this IS the point, actually. And frankly - a pretty good and smart one. ANd I see nothing wrong with that, except you are a freaking snob and looking down on 400 dollar escorting while doing it yourself. Most HDHs I know and am fond of have worked at lower rates, started like that and then made the rates higher, come experience, come finesse, come refined personality or whatnot. Working for agencies is also not the worst thing to do, if you want to learn the tools of the trade. Had I not started out like that, I don`t know what mistakes I would have made. There is a reason why you don't start as CEO of a company but rather in lower positions first. You also don`t drive a Ferrari as your first car, right?

But these people who think they can start at 1000 because they have no clue of the market and think they are better (or can`t loose face in front of their other HDH friends) are the worst. They do it all wrong, get fucked plenty (be it with or without payment ........) because they have no experience, but care to have an attitude and snob around..... that is just so ridiculous. I could write "diaries of dumb snobbish escorts" and make all of you laugh... but I wouldn`t, because the whole world actually thinks we are dumb, so I would not do some good for "our" political agenda by actually proofing what "everyone" thinks. (One HDH even used to fly to other cities on her own money, did not screen clients properly, and then she was totally surprised she got stood up...... That is ONE way to learn how to NOT do things. Mind you, hopefully she was not flying first class ;-))) bwahahahahahaha.....

There are many market streams out there.

[Guest071512]

Originally Posted by alluringava

Some even have more names and numbers. There's one I knew of who had four names, four prices, and four phone numbers. I guess she wanted to appeal to the whole market :P

Hole market... but then she would need only three numbers.

CT

[Katy Alexander]

Originally Posted by alluringava

The amount of snobbery of some of the so-called HDH girls never fails to amaze me.

Originally Posted by ninasastri

Most of them, if not all, do so. I am just annoyed by people pretending to be better than others, snob about "cheaper rate" escorts, and then go around having financial issues, and - in the long run - also bringing down their rates.


:

Originally Posted by alluringava

You're 100% right, Nina. MANY of the so-called HDHs that I've known were always looking down on the 'cheaper girls' And the irony is, at a very high price range, many clients expect ( or the girl offers) BBFS

Originally Posted by ninasastri

True, and trust me, from what I have seen, the HDHs who are as pretentious and looking down on others are the most of the times the dumbest Bimbos ever. I could tell you stories.... you would laugh your ass off if you had seen what I saw BCD :-). Many of them, specially the arrogant ones (maybe that IS why they are arrogant and need to feel so superiour, at least on their blogs and homepages..) are more dependent on their escort job than any 400$ escort ever could be. I remember the thread on here where the question came up if a certain HDH (her name was not mentioned) had the right to confront her client about some racist attitude. I found that so ridiculous given the fact that most HDHs pretend to not "need" their clients. I mean hell yeah, at least I don`t need to suck up to some racist because I can`t afford to loose him based on my finances . Many stories like this that make me laugh so hard ;-)....

Originally Posted by ninasastri

But these people who think they can start at 1000 because they have no clue of the market and think they are better (or can`t loose face in front of their other HDH friends) are the worst. They do it all wrong, get fucked plenty (be it with or without payment ........) because they have no experience, but care to have an attitude and snob around..... that is just so ridiculous. I could write "diaries of dumb snobbish escorts" and make all of you laugh... .

Wow I can sure feel the love lol.I am not certain who is looking down on whom , but with viewing the open minded, caring attitude from those who contribute on a forum that is suppose to be dedicated to the high end of this business I have to wonder why this place is not simply over flowing with HDH's, and the men who admire them.lol

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Katy Alexander

Wow I can sure feel the love lol.I am not certain who is looking down on whom , but with viewing the open minded, caring attitude from those who contribute on a forum that is suppose to be dedicated to the high end of this business I have to wonder why this place is not simply over flowing with HDH's, and the men who admire them.lol

You certainly are funny ;-).
Welcome to the board !
Maybe you can answer the eternal "Gretchen" question since you raised it? What would be the "High End" of this business? (lol) ?

[JDNorthface]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

... Many of them, specially the arrogant ones (maybe that IS why they are arrogant and need to feel so superiour, at least on their blogs and homepages..) ...

I absolutely agree. This is the root source of all arrogance--fear. We see it flowing freely all over this board as well as the websites and blogs you mention. It is a disease and it makes everyone sick.

This is why I believe that when one finds a lady who truly understands humility, and I don't mean subservience, then he has found a lady with at least one of the core characteristics of an HDH. And I am supposing that when a lady finds a truly humble client, she has found a gem that she wishes to retain as a repeat customer.

Arrogance is a manifestation of cowardice; humility of courage.