SEALS Respond to Obama Campaign

[Whirlaway]

The less you tell your enemy the better; but Obama just couldn't resist strutting his stuff, boasting about the intel treasure chest !

[WTF]

They had already taken out folks with the Intel. It has an expiration date you know. You are not looking at the whole picture

[Whirlaway]

You don't know what you are talking about.

At the time Obama announced the Obama killling, he also let it be known that we gathered up a treasure trove of intelligence materials from the compound - computers, records, etc.

Something that he should have never said. But Obama couldn't keep his ego in check. At the time the information wasn't "expired". We hadn't even had time to process it, but Obama went out on national media and let the world know.

As reported by Michael Mukasey in the WSJ:

"Moreover, the president does not seem to have addressed at all the possibility of seizing material with intelligence value—which may explain his disclosure immediately following the event not only that bin Laden was killed, but also that a valuable trove of intelligence had been seized, including even the location of al Qaeda safe-houses. That disclosure infuriated the intelligence community because it squandered the opportunity to exploit the intelligence that was the subject of the boast."

Originally Posted by WTF

They had already taken out folks with the Intel. It has an expiration date you know. You are not looking at the whole picture

[I B Hankering]

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[BigLouie]

[CuteOldGuy]

Bush is not running for President, as far as I know. So who cares?

[Little Stevie]

COG, shut your overly ignorant mouth! You add NOTHING but shit to the conversation and you comment on EVERYTHING without adding facts or value.

Bush DID APPEAR in this picture AS PRESIDENT. Because he is no longer president (thank God) doesn't mean he is not still responsible for numerous tactics, bad choices and poor decisions that hurt this country.

[Little Stevie]

By the FUCKING WAY, Obama DID play 9 holes the day the mission began but was not playing golf the day he MADE the decision to authorize the mission.

After his authorization but before the actual mission, a dry run was practiced in the Nevada desert. Obama took information from multiple advisors. Some of them did not want to go in and preferred trying to bomb the site.

Obama contemplated that input and then gave the kill order that needed the Seals to gain entry into the compound.

Clips from Rock Center of how the mission and the decisions were accomplished was hosted and narrated by Brian Williams of NBC last night.

Shots including video of the President and interviews about the mindsets of many of the participants who were in the Situation Room are in the link below.

http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_new...residency?lite

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Didn't President Bush land a jet on the carrier?

Bush was in the Air National Guard. Landing a plane on a carrier is a unique skill set.

Originally Posted by WTF

Whether he said it our not, the enemy would have to assume and act accordingly. I would assume that is wtf we would do if something was potentially compromised.

Look the article had one former Seal, now in politics, complaining about politics. I'm sure the former Navy Seal is not trying to boost his position in the GOP by doing the exact same thing he is accussing Obama of.

I would add that the lower levels of his chain of command might not have had any access to much of the info or had any idea what it contained or pertained to. The safe house information may have been a ploy to get them to abandon the safe houses they already had. The actual locations of many of them would be compartmentalized to keep this exact situation from blowing the organization apart. The safe houses bin Laden would go to would be unknown to most of the lower level troops. Maybe the opposite was true also. It would be a big gamble for them to stay in current safe houses.
While uprooted and trying to rebuild the organization the players would be more open to attack.

[CuteOldGuy]

I'm pretty sure W was flying the jet that landed on the carrier, but I could be wrong.

And yes, Stevie, I know everything is STILL Bush's fault, even though President Obama has been in office for more than three years.

Hey, since everything is Bush's fault, maybe he gave the order to kill bin Laden after all? Bush is still apparently running the country, so I think maybe he should get credit for this, since he gets the blame for everything else.

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I'm pretty sure W was flying the jet that landed on the carrier, but I could be wrong.

And yes, Stevie, I know everything is STILL Bush's fault, even though President Obama has been in office for more than three years.

Hey, since everything is Bush's fault, maybe he gave the order to kill bin Laden after all? Bush is still apparently running the country, so I think maybe he should get credit for this, since he gets the blame for everything else.

He might have taken the stick while in flight but he would have been hands off during the landing.

[CuteOldGuy]

I think that was the case. If I remember right, they let him control it in the air for awhile, but the Pilot/Co-Pilot landed the jet.

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I think that was the case. If I remember right, they let him control it in the air for awhile, but the Pilot/Co-Pilot landed the jet.

It's relativly easy to control a plane in fight. Landing on a runway in a fighter is much tougher than landing a private type aircraft because of the higher landing speed. Landing a fighter on a carrier deck is pretty much a controled crash on a very specific chuck of land about the length of 2 football fields. That's moving, pitching, and rolling along at @ 40 mph.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I think that was the case. If I remember right, they let him control it in the air for awhile, but the Pilot/Co-Pilot landed the jet.

I think the rest of the flight probably went something like this.

[BigLouie]