Eccie guys are usually the only ones that bitch!

[isabela4fun]

Mmmm I'm not very computer savy as many of the guys can see I dont post a whole alot on here, it took me a while to figure this whole thing out Mojo helped me out alot in figuring it out. I clearly remember it being on my avatar, but you should know better than I since its clear that you have alot more time on your hands than I do... Fyi I love hott chics with nice aS** and beautiful faces so ill post them all day every day as my avatar!

[NIKKILOVE]

Originally Posted by GymRat

You know, it’s kind of funny, I just realized that I just about always try to negotiate a deal with almost every professional I deal with. I have negotiated with mechanics, contractors, painters, yard men, and even a doctor.
Although, I have never negotiated with an escort. I’m most cases, assuming the women has reviewed well, I have tipped a little up front hoping that might increase my chances of having a better session. I’ve also never negotiated with a provider because I feel like she might be less enthusiastic if she accepted a smaller donation. That being said, I still can’t blame a guy for trying to negotiate a better deal. It’s still something I wouldn’t do, but why would a provider be any different than any other professional? Hell, I’m sure the guy that works on my vehicles is just as offended when he quotes me a price and I negotiate with him. I’m sure he takes pride in his work, in addition to having hundreds of thousands in equipment and overhead costs. And he damn sure sure doesn’t make three hundred bucks an hour. I just really think providers shouldn’t take things so personally. It’s not necessarily a reflection on you. Again, I don’t do it, but I certainly can’t blame a guy for trying to get a better deal.

GymRat,


I agree, most of us in life negotiate when we see we can. Yes, we ladies are in this "Business"-but do you really look at it as the same as a car dealer or some guys remodeling your kitchen?
We are ladies with feelings, and we are in a situation that is close and personal when we visit with you. (despite how a lot of you try to make us look hartless and fake) I assure you that some of us are not!

You should never feel you have to "tip" or pay more for a better service.
When you go out to eat, do you pay first in hopes of better food?
Im not saying a tip is not nice or appreciated, but I hear a lot of men say they paid more in hopes for better or good service up front...

I have felt the same since I started this, and will defend it till the end....
A provider charging 400 an hour next to my 160 an hour is NOT doing so because she is of "better quality", "better skills" or "better service"... she is doing it because she mainly has the "body" that allows her to. I have seen countless reviews, alerts, and "no's" on sexy girls here who charge out the ass prices, and they still give shitty service. Yet, guys line up for what she "looks" like.. to each their own--spend it how ever makes you happy!

I have had guys bring more than my donation saying or feeling the same thing-they may get a better service... I treated them the same as I do every one ---WITH GREAT RESPECT, SERVICE AND QUALITY, and .. handed them the extra back before they left---because Im not out to rip any one off and because, I am a quality provider...despite my BBW label.

Remember, when you speak about us not taking it so personal...(smile) again I will remind you, we are not robots...we are ladies with emotions---$$ or not!!!


IJS

You may negotiate with any one, they have the right to say no or to go for it. In any profession, NO ONE WANTS to take less than they feel their services are worth. Especially when in THIS profession, most of us are worth a hell of a lot more than what you are having to fork over.

FYI -- I was not directing any of this to you personally GymRat, you just touched on a lot in your post, so I used it as an example..

[GymRat]

Like I said, I don’t haggle over a provider’s rates. If I feel a provider’s advertised rate is more than I choose to spend with her, I simply pass. However, I still think a provider shouldn’t take things so personally. Just simply say, “No thank you,” and move on with the session or show him the door. But rest assured, as long as you are in this business you will always have clients wanting to negotiate a better deal. You just have to develop a thicker skin.
I used to be a successful wedding photographer years ago. I really took my work seriously and considered myself an artist. I charged more for my services than anyone in Southeast, TX. and still had to turn clients away because I stayed so booked up. Even with all my success, I would still have an occasional client that would rip me a new asshole when viewing their album for the first time. Yeah, the first couple of times it didn’t feel too good. But, I knew many other people were very pleased with my work, and if I did such a crappy job I wouldn’t stayed booked up.
After the first couple of times I learned to get over it. There isn’t one provider in this business that isn’t going to occasionally have someone try to negotiate with them. It’s just something you have to deal with and move on.

[jeep07]

Wish i could buy for what there worth and sell un for what they think there. She is fine . Iwill return

[GymRat]

Originally Posted by jeep07

Wish i could buy for what there worth and sell un for what they think there. She is fine . Iwill return

Drinking the ***** ***** again?

Staff Edit: Mention of drugs is against forum guidelines. - Mojo

[Brian7772]

All I see in this rant is "waaa someone gave me access to private data and I wanna cry."

I mean seriously. Everyone has their price and as most of you guys know me I rarely "order off the menu" prefering UTR's and to find my own playmates from the local waitress and bartendering scene, but when I see a rant like this it makes me think that someone doesn't know how the business works. There is a set average on price, service, and quality. If I go into any resteraunt and order a burger I pay a certain price. I will pay more if I want to, but if I know a burger is signifigantly higher when I can get the same shit elseware then I probally wont eat there. Same with "Toftt" so what if you get a shitty burger every once in a while. It's still better than overpaying for the same shit you can get anywhere.

And yes for the record I did just compare vagina to pounded fried meat.

[GymRat]

Maybe comparing it to a clam would have been more appropriate?

[Guest123018-4]

I never bitch about price. If the p;rice is too high I just dont make an appointment.
One of the best times I ever had was with a fifty dollar girl.
Sure it was only one pop but I cant pop more than once in an hour anyway.
Not sure if she was really a pro or just a civilian making fifty bucks as we were never able to meet up again.
Alas I shall remember her always.
Paid over two hundred for a terrible session of a well reviewed lady who I will not mention and while it wasn't the worst I never went back.

Price plays little importance in the overall quality of the experience.
There are many things that can add or detract from the value of the time spent.

Here is the deal, a provider charges what she thinks is a fair value for her time. If she gets as much business as she wants then she is charging a fair price. If the business drops below an acceptable level she must be charging too much. It is all about market value.
There are some that have no issue in what some would call over paying but like I said, if the provider is getting all of the business she wants then the price is fair.

Maybe I need to check in on the thread about why providers have specials.

[Out_of_Bounds]

Originally Posted by trey

And that has made the site much less useful.

BIG +1!!!

[Luvagoodmassage]

It seems they have been "working on it" for weeks now. Sure they are!!

[LatinasElite]

Isabela, we know, we get that often. Some gentlemen not understand the rate may include more that a service, they not consider the cleanliness, supplies, discretion, punctuality, safety and security and more that some ladies provide. Some gentlemen understand, look for and appreciate that in addition to good service, and accept the rate asked. Others just care for the service and not care about being unsafe or at a dirty or unkept place, those are the ones that usually complain.

[Guest123018-4]

Yep you gotta figure in the overhead or you will go broke making money.

[Capt. Lincoln F. Stern]

We pay for the time we spend with the lady. But I can say this with a high level of confidence... we guys have all paid various prices for various ladies.. sometimes the lower priced ones rock our world better than the high dollar ones.

It is all about attitude... if it was simply the mechanics of sex, then gee... all the AMP spa's would be crowded with customers.. as they are about as mechanical as they get.

The only complaint I really have and its not about price but service... if you are serious about being a provider, look into your own webpage, list what you need for screening, what you do, and contact info etc... on there.. and if it is listed on there activity wise, then don't tell a guy "no" you listed it.

Also if you having a bad day.. aka not feeling well etc... well don't work. We do it in the real world.. we take days off for illness... some of us get paid, some do not.

better to not work when in a bad mood than have 2 sessions and get 2 bad reviews.

[Dorian Gray]

Originally Posted by Brian7772

And yes for the record I did just compare vagina to pounded fried meat.

[Brooke Wilde]

Originally Posted by LatinasElite

Some gentlemen not understand the rate may include more that a service, they not consider the cleanliness, supplies, discretion, punctuality, safety and security and more that some ladies provide. Some gentlemen understand, look for and appreciate that in addition to good service, and accept the rate asked. Others just care for the service and not care about being unsafe or at a dirty or unkept place, those are the ones that usually complain.

Very well said.