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Old 04-13-2012, 05:01 PM   #16
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I was a fool that tried to help a lady that didn't want my help. She said she wanted my help but after all was done she didn't want it. I learned a valuable lesson and I continue on.



That's sweet of you, what a good man! I know alot of great men in this hobby and without their help, I wouldn't be where I am today!!! That's not your fault that you couldn't help her, some girls fall for lames, but at the end of the day, we are all people and some of us have to realize that not everyone is made for each other, and the others who realize and trust one another can spread the love and help one another out! It's great that you tried to help her, but you can't help someone who is in a bad situation and not wanting help, Not every agency and pimp is operated the same, works the same with the ladies, some of these ladies will rob your whole house, while others will come to make your house a happy home and leave you with sweet Dreams! <3
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:08 PM   #17
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I don't know about YOU but I know about ME.

I bought everything I own with my own money or with dates and never let anyone TAKE anything I didn't give them!!

I think that agencies take away from the girls and are selfish, they leave girls with nothings and don't even get them out of jail if they get busted!
There are pimps out there who are just like that, but where there is bad, there is also good too, so we can't just say that all pimps and all agencies are the same, so which is it... Agencies or Pimps that are the best in this biz? ? Why was this thread ever mentioned, once again it's a big Drama scene around here, I normally don't talk on the boards but this thread caught my attention as I was trying to get a gent screened and the lady wouldn't answer her phone.
I have been in many situations and people are not perfect, everyone on here has somebody whether it's an escort, a gf, a boyfriend, or a pimp, or is with an agency or has some close friend who might help them out with something they are lacking here and there or fulltime, so why is it a big deal if the service is good and the girls are happy. I'm confused considering I saw half the men off of ASPD and some of the ones on ECCIE now who moved when I had a boyfriend sitting on my couch because I was scared and didn't know the game, I'm a sugar baby, but I came into this biz to better myself. I was with the same guy for 1 year and I had him living with me and he met all of my clients and because service was so good and I am a girl who is REAL and you can trust me, I am clean, classy I understand what men want they all came back for more and as 4 years from now they are still Dreaming!! So this subject is a great one I think... How can a client look at someone bad when he has a girlfriend or a wife at home or out of town, he was out to get what he wanted or what he needed and then leaves and goes back to his hotel room or back home happy and relaxed, which is what we all need is happiness or the world would be a horrible place, I would never judge anyone, as your and I are not perfect. Men have needs and wants just as a woman has wants and needs. I am so happy that I was turned onto this hobby, I have progressed and am finally able to take care of my bills and have the things that my father gave me when I was growing up before his death I met my Sugar Daddy and he took care of me since before I could put lights in my name and introduced me to several people, I am saying, we all deserve to share our happiness with whoever we want, after all we are all grown, may be young, but we are adults... Good can come from bad and when some peope judge a situation it only makes things worse, then you have gossip when really that's not half of the story! This is a scarey biz and whatever you ladies and men decide to do as far as what I decide to do with my life and for my safety as in not seeing guys who are not verified or not seeing any young black thug males because I do not want to get beat up, I see my regular black clients and professional biz men all over, but not seeing someone who stalks my phone because I am not trying to see the other side, psycho men and killers or like that one post I made where a man stole my cell phone and didn't pay me for a date, I dont want to deal with people like that, I am a good girl... What I am saying is that you cant compare one to the other. Everyone and Everything in this world and behind closed doors is either FAKE or REAL, so I think really it's not about who runs the service its about the session and the person one on one... I am glad you made this post Ali Cat! Very Much Needed To Be OUT in the Open cause really this Arkansas board has alot of issues with some of the woman not wanting to give out references, how are we all suppose to stay safe when we have haters among us!!!!! We can save that for a new thread. <3 I've said all I want to say, hope this makes you think, some of these girls will try to lure you into a situation that might not be safe, but everyone understands each other in different ways too, so we can't knock anyones opnion, just be REAL, I hate Fake People, Theifs & Liars and Jealous Haters- * Check Showcase * I am Me and You are You, Let's Have Fun And Stay Safe and get off the drama!!!!

As I said before...

" Just be yourself, will get you further in life... in any situation. Local Sugar Baby"
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:50 PM   #18
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All valid points. I would just think that an agency would be a good "training" tool. Most providers I know got their starts with agencies. The difference is some took the knowledge the agency taught us & ran with it & became independents. Others enjoyed having someone handle the business side & chose to continue on that path. I enjoy keeping all my $. I learned REAL quick that no one was going to make $ off of my hard work. I will admit I appreciated the learning experience an agency gave me. It was a good way to ease into the hobby, speaking for myself.

This is all just my opinion. It may not work for everyone & that's fine. I'm just saying it worked for me & I think it's a good tool for the new girl who's never done this type of work before.

But if I get one more text from "men" pissed that I started this thread I'm gonna lose it & turn my phone off!!
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:54 PM   #19
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@dreams which is it?

Why was this thread even mentioned? (drama) OR
I'm glad this thread was brought up it was a much needed topic?

I'm just a little confused. It's a valid question. No ones pointing fingers here. It can be handled professionally as long as one's personal experiences aren't brought into it.
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:59 PM   #20
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Females will say anyting and send out texts to ruin the next and try to make themselves look good, I think we all know what I am talking about...

I hate fake people!!!! AND I hate drama!!!

What is the purpose of this thread? Try to ruin a girl or try to gain clients?


Not many men responding.


Im done talking about this... it will never end, can't wait to see what happens next on the board that might be worth reading...

Im on tour after Sat and hopefully when I come back to Arkansas this PIMP vs ESCORT AGENCY thing is figured out. ??

<3, Dreams
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:59 PM   #21
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But if I get one more text from "men" pissed that I started this thread I'm gonna lose it & turn my phone off!!
Don't turn ur phone off Ali! I think you would make a lot guys very sad if u did
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Personal experiences wasn't the correct choice of words. (my last post)
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:00 PM   #23
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Thanks Jon!! Muah!
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:27 PM   #24
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agency's do not have to feed, bathe, and dress them.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:28 PM   #25
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True Pimps engage in other crimes besides just running prostitues. You'll often find them involved in Gun Running, Narcotics, Money Laundering and Illegal Gambling operations. Straight up Escort Agencies aren't known to associate with these other illegal activities.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:36 PM   #26
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Mr Happy I have learned we cant play "captain Save A Hoe"...lol
So true, Syd. I learned years ago, one can only help one who wishes to be helped. I'm sure Mr. Chan could phrase that more cleverly in the form of a proverb.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:02 PM   #27
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So true, Syd. I learned years ago, one can only help one who wishes to be helped. I'm sure Mr. Chan could phrase that more cleverly in the form of a proverb.

So true but in a lot of cases one goes back to old ways or person.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:21 PM   #28
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very enlightening thread. both for the subject and the little glimpse of personalities.
does miss cat ever visit nw arkansas?
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Excellent topic, Ali.

Even though agencies are viewed in a better light by most, I don't think they're actually that much better than pimps. They still take a substantial portion of the ladies' money, while she takes all the risks.

Years ago, I had my very first hobby date through an agency. She introduced me to the client, took half my money and left. The very next night, I became independent.

There are those that justify the presence of a driver/manager/whatever you want to call it, for safety and companionship/mental-emotional support reasons. It's your life and your money; so by all means, do what you want...

Personally, I feel it is an extremely weak-minded person that believes they cannot stand on their own and take care of their business by themselves. Confidence is really the only thing holding them back.
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The prob is pimps are nothing but unintelligent, thugs! Real men work to make their own $, not take $ from vulnerable girls.
No But To Give To Vurnable Girls With Multiple Holes Heh
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