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i thought we were discussing kayka's racist comment. now u r trying to change the subject. LOL! i dont see kayla defending herself because she knows she's racist and admits it. ur a racist but dont but refuse 2 admit it. how about that 4 a double standard! LOL!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2012, 01:58 PM
			
			
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				i thought we were discussing kayka's racist comment. now u r trying to change the subject. LOL! i dont see kayla defending herself because she knows she's racist and admits it. ur a racist but dont but refuse 2 admit it. how about that 4 a double standard! LOL! 
			
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  See, you are weak in so many ways; you haven't got a clue.  All you ever will be is a cheer leader on the sidelines.  It's always been about liberal hypocrisy and the duplicitous mendacity of you libs.  Go back and check: http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...8&postcount=34
 
BTW, you didn't make any disparaging comments about Little Blind Boy's racist post -- none of you hypocritical, liberal mutha fuckers said a single, solitary word. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			uncle tom is a black term said by blacks about blacks. not racist. 
  
now lets get back on point about the white woman calling the black man a monkey. anybody not think thats racist?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2012, 02:13 PM
			
			
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				uncle tom is a black term said by blacks about blacks. not racist. 
  
now lets get back on point about the white woman calling the black man a monkey. anybody not think thats racist? 
			
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  Quid pro quo - anything less is sheer liberal-hypocrisy.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2012, 02:21 PM
			
			
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			03-01-2012, 02:25 PM
			
			
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			I was surprised by the veto comments. 
Here is the record from Wikipedia and is correct according to all my memories and other sources I could find.  Note that GWB had fewer vetos than any president Harding excluding the current POTUS.  He was critized more for his lack of the veto power in most circles.  The current POTUS has had both houses completely under his control so it is not uprising that he has not needed to use the veto power.  
 
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Summary of vetoes 
President    Regular Pocket Total Overridden  
George Washingto2	0	2	0	0%	0% 
John Adams        0	0	0	0	0%	0% 
Thomas Jefferson 0	0	0	0	0%	0% 
James Madison    5	2	7	0	0%	0% 
James Monroe     1	0	1	0	0%	0% 
John Q. Adams    0	0	0	0	0%	0% 
Andrew Jackson  5	7	12	0	0%	0% 
Martin Van Buren 0	1	1	0	0%	0% 
William Harrison   0	0	0	0	0%	0% 
John Tyler	        6	4	10	1	10%	16% 
James Polk	        2	1	3	0	0%	0% 
Zachary Taylor    0	0	0	0	0%	0% 
Millard Fillmore     0	0	0	0	0%	0% 
Franklin Pierce     9	0	9	5	56%	56% 
James Buchanan  4	3	7	0	0%	0% 
Abraham Lincoln  2	5	7	0	0%	0% 
Andrew Johnson 21	8	29	15	52%	71% 
Ulysses Grant    45	48	93	4	4%	9% 
Rutherford Hayes 12	1	13	1	8%	8% 
James Garfield      0	0	0	0	0%	0% 
Chester Arthur     4	8	12	1	8%	25% 
Grover Cleveland 304	110	414	2	1%	1% 
Benjamin Harrison 19	25	44	1	2%	5% 
Grover Cleveland  42	128	170	5	3%	12% 
William McKinley    6	36	42	0	0%	0% 
Theodore Rooseve42	40	82	1	1%	2% 
William Taft	        30	9	39	1	3%	3% 
Woodrow Wilson  33	11	44	6	14%	18% 
Warren Harding     5	1	6	0	0%	0% 
Calvin Coolidge	20	30	50	4	8%	20% 
Herbert Hoover	21	16	37	3	8%	14% 
Franklin Roosevelt	372	263	635	9	1%	2% 
Harry Truman	180	70	250	12	5%	7% 
Dwight Eisenhower73	108	181	2	1%	3% 
John Kennedy	12	9	21	0	0%	0% 
Lyndon Johnson	16	14	30	0	0%	0% 
Richard Nixon	26	17	43	7	16%	27% 
Gerald Ford	        48	18	66	12	18%	25% 
Jimmy Carter	13	18	31	2	6%	15% 
Ronald Reagan	39	39	78	9	12%	23% 
George H. W.Bush29	15	44	1	2%	2% 
Bill Clinton	        36	1	37	2	5%	6% 
George W. Bush   11	1	12	4	33%	36% 
Barack Obama       2	0	2	0	0%	0% 
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			03-01-2012, 02:43 PM
			
			
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			Bush did indeed have very few veto's, how many were not the issue, the timeline is 
  
NONE ZERO ZILCH NADA during his first 1700 days while he passed 1100 spending bills. 
  
Again he didnt send back any legislation until the dems took the floor, anything he signed into law when he was POTUS he approved of regardless. That makes it impossible for him to "inherit" democratic spending legislation. I have a better record of the vetos (bill#'s, dates, etc) should you so desire?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2012, 02:47 PM
			
			
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			03-01-2012, 03:48 PM
			
			
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			LOL! The leftists can't really support Obama's dismal economic record, so they resort to blaming Bush and crying racism at the drop of a hat. No one believes Kayla is a racist, but it does give them an excuse to avoid the issue, while at the same time feeling self-righteous. It's funny to watch, but you can't take them seriously.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2012, 04:01 PM
			
			
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			news flash COG ... as long as the effect of past legislation enters the picture the president that contributed to said legislation is worthy of mention. The reality of #'s doesnt magically vanish when the guard changes shift. Assuming responsibility for inept actions isnt really a republican forte', or for that matter, a politicians forte'. 
  
I wont even comment on the race comment, it is what it is. If you a white man, stood two men side by side, both 6'2" weighing 230lbs, one black one white and said "youre a monkey" who do you suppose would be offended. (and whip your ass)?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2012, 04:12 PM
			
			
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				No, Kayla, Af-Freakin is absolutely right. 
  
This is by far the most robust recovery following any recession since World War II. 
			
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				Didn't you see my previous statement that I agreed with you? Just look how strong this recovery is! 
  
Consider the effectiveness of the $825 billion ARRA (stimulus package) signed into law in February 2009. Absent presidential leadership, congress might have fucked it up with a lot of stuff like gimmicky refundable tax credits, payoffs to states with no accountability so that they could kick the can down the road regarding responsible budget decisions, and wasteful pork-barrel projects.  
  
But President Obama exercised strong leadership and made sure that didn't happen! We concentrated on valuable, shovel-ready infrastructure projects that we all know put about 3.5 million unemployed Americans back to work. 
  
Now because of the effectiveness of President Obama's economic recovery plan, we are virtually certain to see consistent, sustained year-over-year GDP growth averaging at least 3.5% annually for years to come! 
			
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				Yes, there's absolutely no doubt that the stimulus package saved millions of jobs. 
  
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I have to apologize. The sarcasm dripping from Captain Midnight's posts is my fault.  I'm sure.  Or something like that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2012, 04:21 PM
			
			
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				I wont even comment on the race comment, it is what it is. If you a white man, stood two men side by side, both 6'2" weighing 230lbs, one black one white and said "youre a monkey" who do you suppose would be offended. (and whip your ass)? 
			
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  Take the black men out of the equation altogether.  If you walk up to a white man, standing 6'2" and weighing 230lbs, and you insult him by calling him a 'monkey' -- or any other pejorative name.  He'll take it as an insult and probably pop your ass.  If you use a derogatory word or term to insult someone, it's an insult.  To argue that an insulted man of one race is not as insulted as an insulted man of another race is absurd.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			O "snap" .. that was a hypothetical scenario, and you bought the race card
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Take the black men out of the equation altogether.  If you walk up to a white man, standing 6'2" and weighing 230lbs, and you insult him by calling him a 'monkey' -- or any other pejorative name.  He'll take it as an insult and probably pop your ass.  If you use a derogatory word or term to insult someone, it's an insult.  To argue that an insulted man of one race is not as insulted as an insulted man of another race is absurd.   
			
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Ok I B you are monkey
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Nice evade, CJ. You brought up the race card, IB took it out. You lose, but it was a nice try. You keep saying one thing and then insisting you said something else. Have you spoken to anyone about that? Maybe you should. You would sound less stupid on here.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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