Is Honesty No longer wanted?

[iINDULGE]

I was approached or contacted by a few providers in the last week, because I've been told I'm too harsh in my reviews. Perhaps, it was that I gave too many NO's in comparison to YES's.

I guess I just wanted to say that I am an easy man to please, but I am not a dishonest one. I've meet with a wide variety or providers, of all races, statures, and quality; many of which have never been reviewed on this site.

That being said, I think a provider deserves a NO if I leave the session and I won't even entertain the idea of coming back. Simple as that! I rarely release during a session, so my NO's are based simply on the honesty and integrity of a provider's photos/ads, the overall physical experience, extreme tardiness of a provider, and whether I'm walking into a crack house verse a remotely safe incall.

I'm not sure if Providers can read the ROS, but if they can they'd know/see that those NO's were well earned. I've had NO's based on bad hygiene, extreme tardiness, dead man syndrome (Provider just lays there), false advertisement photos (the kind where she's gained 40 lbs or it's another girl that is physically much more attractive), et cetera. From my perspective, the clients are asked to rate an experience and become critics of Providers, and I know nobody loves a critic but we need them.

As clients I think we choose based simply on reviews and photos, and if reviews don't paint an honest portrait then they do us all an injustice. Clients lose money, because they take a chance on a low quality provider that someone gave a YES. Quality providers lose money, because had the clients known better they would have had money to spend elsewhere. I've just read too many reviews by clients where their experience was absolutely horrible, but the guy gives the Provider a YES.

In all, if a provider bans me because I give too many No's or feels I'm too honest in my reviews so be it. I'd rather die on my feet, than to live on my knees. Well, it depends what I'm doing on my knees, but you get the point.

[The DarkSide]

Indulge this forum is to exchange information and give reviews, not ads for the providers! I have read many of your reviews and you have only been honest with your encounters. Keep doing what you are doing you have done nothing wrong!

[Missy Mariposa]

While that is absolutely true, I can see why a provider would be scared of a bad review. A new review can make or break a week of income.

I can't see turning down someone because they're honest though. I cannot see the nitty gritty details but someone giving more no recommendations over yes isn't something that scares/bothers me personally.

Though I would imagine it's much like running a restaurant and knowing the top food critic is coming in that night...

[BigDeal]

If a provider doesnt like the no then maybe it says they should "step up their game"
If they dont the NO's will continue..more often than not

Dont play the game if you cant deliver what you advertise!

[ez2plz]

If a provider knows her heart isn't in the business and she provides crappy service, she entertains in a dumpster, and looks nothing like the photos she uses; I can understand why she might refuse to see Indulge; a decision that ultimately is as good for him as it is for her.

Providers that enjoy entertaining, have a nice clean and safe place to entertain, and look like their photos should not hesitate.

Is that too much to ask? I think not.

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

I'm not sure the problem is the "No" recommendations. There is a reason I generally don't even look at the clearance rack when I'm shopping. The common theme I note in Indulge's reviews are the bargain basement prices. In this hobby, as in most things, you get what you pay for.

Now let the flames begin

[noleftturn]

Ditto SOTF

[malwoody]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

I'm not sure the problem is the "No" recommendations. There is a reason I generally don't even look at the clearance rack when I'm shopping. The common theme I note in Indulge's reviews are the bargain basement prices. In this hobby, as in most things, you get what you pay for.

Now let the flames begin

As far as I'm concerned you nailed it. He has 20 reviews, 7 say no and every one of those 7 came off of bp, yet he continues to seek out bp. Why?

If he keeps doin what he's doin he will keep gettin what he is gettin..

[demont]

Because of where I live, my hobby life is not that active. when I know I am going to a city where there are providers I read all of the reviews I can. I am glad that people are honest and they should be, but anyone can have a bad date/night. that is why I look at all the reviews that I can. One "no" review and 5 "yes" ones will not keep me form seeing a provider. However, if there are more "no" then I will move on... just my thoughts.....

[noleftturn]

Kinda like going to BIG CHUCK'S GET FUCKED AUTO SALES and expecting to buy a clean one owner.

[guest010313]

I wouldn't go out of my way to tell you that you are unreasonable but dude, how about you revisit someone that you gave a yes to? If you are that addicted to cheap, large, strange go find some out of the way dive bar and drop $20 on smirnoff ice.

Or maybe you just like the attention, the "war stories"

[Guest102513-1]

Your reviews are not for the providers' benefit...but they are for fellow hobbists.

If your reviews are based on honest experiences (which I have no reason to think they are not) then as that old song goes..."Tell it Like it Is".

I have not looked at your reviews, as a whole. Without question the bp adds can be
a tricky area to look...however that is your choice. As is your budget for the hobby.

I don't buy the theory that the more you spend on a visit, the better the service you
get. There are plenty of examples that show more $$$ does not always equal better service. However spending on the lower price scale, off of girls that do not have a known track record...does not guaranttee problems, but without question heightens the risk.
(BTW, no disrespect intended for Sins of the Flesh, just my opinion.)

If any of the ladies, or guys for that matter, have a problem with your reviews...it's their problem, not yours.

The only suggestion, I would have for you is...figure out your budget, and then research, research and research. If you already are doing this, and you do have a lot of "No's" maybe time to review your research methods.

--edit post - removed questionable reference and potential personal attack - fritz

But I will be taking notes and bookmarking that page, LOL!!!!!!

[iINDULGE]

I’ve been fortunate to do quite well for myself during this recession, so my issue isn’t cash flow as my two favorite providers could/would attest. It’s time. Nonetheless, I appreciate the criticism of the providers I see (sarcastic face), but some of you seem to be missing the point of this thread. I feel like I’m teaching grammar school in France, again. The issue was other providers’ reactions to honest reviews, not the providers I saw.

I’m single, more than financially stable, and I have an immense sex drive, so I’m just like a kid in a candy store than wants to try out different candy on different days. Honestly, if Eccie and p411 had more variety in general then I wouldn’t waste my time on BP. For example, if I wanted a Black provider then my choice on Eccie and p411 are limited. Asian? Panamanian (one of my favorites)? In other words, I desire a variety of women that Eccie and p411 doesn’t always provide in this region of the U.S.

That being said, I will address certain comments individually.

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

I'm not sure the problem is the "No" recommendations. There is a reason I generally don't even look at the clearance rack when I'm shopping. The common theme I note in Indulge's reviews are the bargain basement prices. In this hobby, as in most things, you get what you pay for.

Refer to paragraph 1 above. Specifically, the last line. Side note: A Range Rover is worth well over $70K and has the life expectancy of a $12K Kia Sophia. Cost doesn't always equate to quality.

Originally Posted by malwoody

…He has 20 reviews, 7 say no and every one of those 7 came off of bp, yet he continues to seek out bp. Why?

If he keeps doin what he's doin he will keep gettin what he is gettin..

What I’m getting is more choices in the types of providers I can see. BP, though dangerous, provides me with a variety of available providers that certain other websites do not. Yes, I’ve had bad experience with BP but that wasn’t my complaint. I don't blame BP for a bad provider. I blame the provider. Those same providers could easily get verified here, so I'm missing the point. The only issue BP presents me with is running into LE or getting robbed, but I prepare for both adequately.

Originally Posted by noleftturn

Kinda like going to BIG CHUCK'S GET FUCKED AUTO SALES and expecting to buy a clean one owner.

That’s interesting, because there are a good number of providers on BP that are verified on Eccie and p411 and have a number of quality reviews. For example, Annalise, CiCi, Payton, Rayne, Bambii, Nyla, Kaylen, Vanity, and at least a dozens others I’ve seen post on BP at some point in the past in my 2 months.

I know a few of the aforementioned BP providers you yourself have seen. Apparent BIG CHUCK'S automobiles have found their way to DAN'S DISTINGUISHED DEALERSHIP.

Originally Posted by SillyGirl

I wouldn't go out of my way to tell you that you are unreasonable but dude, how about you revisit someone that you gave a yes to? If you are that addicted to cheap, large, strange go find some out of the way dive bar and drop $20 on smirnoff ice.

Or maybe you just like the attention, the "war stories"

SillyGirl, don’t be so silly.

I do visit my 2 favorite YES's often, but that's not the point. I want to visit more than those 2, because if keep visiting the same YES's then it defeats the purpose of the hobby for me.

Also, Cheap is not my preference, but some of the girl’s I’ve met on BP were cheap. The term strange, well that’s relative. I do like large, as in breast. The rest of the body, that just depends, but YES I’ll only see LARGER breasted providers.

This is Eccie, not the real world, so I don’t seek the attention of people I don’t know and don’t plan on meeting. That’s like putting on a Tux while playing online video games. Also, war stories are for situations worthy of acclaim and awe, not a Provider running off with my wallet or smelling like sardines. That’s not how legends are made. LoL

Originally Posted by vkmaster

--edit post - removed questionable reference and potential personal attack - fritz

Not into the bar scene, because I’d rather lose money than time. I’m too busy and often too tired to head out to a bar. Unfortunately, the Midwest doesn’t motivate me to head out after a 12 hour work day like Los Angeles or Miami does.

[Sleepyhollow]

Wow; you just have to love all the Give and Take here. Very amusing stuff...

[Guest102513-1]

Hey Sleepyhollow...at times it gets alittle too intense. But most of the time it does become amuzing.

Isn't it funny how, in general, there are posters who, right or wrong, stand their ground. And then there are some posters, who like to dish it out...but when they are overmatch they run and hide, but not before they cry for help. But luv them or hate them...those that stand their ground, they are not silly checker players. Oh yea, I did check the rules in detail...no rules against using the word "silly" (wink to mods!)

BTW, thanks for all the PM's I rec'd from various posters. The numbers, and actually some of the specific people, actually surprise me, and I mean that sincerely. It is always fun to share some good laughs! Have not reply to everyone yet, but I will!!!!


Hopefully this thread has given the OP some different points of view to kick around.