birther alert! - they got a court date

[JD Barleycorn]

Let’s list this administration’s accomplishments during the 2 years that Democrats held control of both the Senate, House and the White House:

START Treaty: Reducing the world’s nuclear stockpiles, working toward Ronald Reagan’s goal of a world without nuclear weapons, locking down loose nuclear materials so it doesn’t end up in the hands of terrorists. The GOP said they would deny him this political win. It was a “save the world” win because if you care about, oops, “it’s the nuclear end of the world,” you care about treaties like this getting passed.
Fun fact; Senator Dan Quayle wrote the first SALT Treaty. Since 26 GOP Senators voted for this won't this be bipartisan? And, as you say, this was a GOP idea originally I guess we can credit Obama with stealing from the best.
The fair pay act for women
How about a fair pay act for all people? This was a case that knows no sex but the democrats made it about sex. If anyone is suffering discrimination does it matter whether they pee standing up or sitting down. Of course I think it is a bit much that the statute of limitations can be extended past 20 years after the crime. How do you find witnesses then? I guess you just hope for a pay off from the company to avoid bad press. Sounds a bit like a scam.
Expanding children’s health insurance
When did a 25 year old former army sargeant with a wife, two kids, and two combat tours still qualify as a child? Only in the sick, sad world of Obama.
New hate crimes legislation they (GOP) said could not be done
I won't answer this until you get more specific.
Tobacco regulation
Credit card reform
Yes, we heard about that credit card reform. Nancy Pelosi made a killing off that bill. That reform helped the credit card companies and not the people. They didn't want to have to reduce their swipe fees or to negoiate their swipe fees with different banks.
Student loan reform
I still have some outstanding student loans and this didn't help at all. My original lending institution had it's assets seized and turned over to Sallie Mae (my loans). No change in my interest rate or principal so other than messing up my book keeping, where is the benefit TO ME.
The stimulus — which in addition to helping pull this country back from the brink of a great depression, was also the largest tax cut ever
Truth time: NO ONE can prove what you said was true. It is all conjecture. This country has recovered from other downturns without a stimulus. The bill itself was bi partisan and initiated under George Bush with the approval of Senators McCain and Obama. So give the credit where it is due if you want to beleive that line of BS. Also, about a fifth of the stimulus hasn't even been spent yet. If this was such an emergency then why measure out the money with a teaspoon over the last three years?
The largest investment in clean energy ever
Solyndra, ethanol scams, billions to Brazil, crony capitalism. Big doesn't mean it's better or right. Read the paper about all the scams.
The largest investment in education in our country ever
You have to explain this one (though I don't think you can).
There was also a little thing you may have heard of called health reform
Wall Street reform
Hell, I'm going to stop here because as someone said you just posting talking points which I don't think you really understand. If you did you wouldn't be touting them as a great thing
The improvements to the new G.I. Bill…that the elephants opposed
The GOP opposed this??? The original sponsor was a GOP congressman and it passed the house without any opposition. So this was a GOP bill that followed up earlier legislation sponsored by GOP representatives. You call this a win for Obama? This was a gimme, a gimme from the GOP.
The most expansive food SAFETY BILL SINCE THE 1930s
Patent Reform
The repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell
By halfway through his term, that’s roughly 85% of his list of his agenda completed. Done. Achieved. Accomplished. For a first term president, excuse my French but I’d say that’s pretty fucking major. There are still some things he’d like to do: energy reform, immigration reform, end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Even losing his 60 vote majority in the Senate, he was still able to pass major legislation.

Since the GOP has taken control of House, nothing was done. The GOP has passed 27 different job creating bills that are still sitting in the democratically controlled Senate.

They can’t repeal health care, although they tried, because the Dems still control the Senate. Waste of time. Most of them oppose the repeal of DADT, a couple of them trying to delay the repeal taking effect. The GOP is using scare tactics and the people are falling for it. What I don’t understand is the Republican opposition even to things Republicans had proposed in the first place, unified Republican opposition to their own ideas.

Now we’re on the brink of one of the 8 racist, homophobic GOP candidates spewing nonsense bullshit that they THINK will work but really won’t, running our country. If you’ve seen any debates so far, heard any of their individual speeches, they’ve already set the undertone, “Let’s get this (insert word for black man) out of the White House, NOW!” Name who you are talking about. Prove that all eight GOP candidates (actually six when you wrote this but probably eight when you received your marching orders) are homophobic, racists. I know you can't do it; think Herman Cain.
You are entitled to your opinion but make sure that it is your opinion and not a DNC laundry list of frauds. Are you really a provider or a block captain?

[WTF]

OK, this thread was about idiot birthers, who among us is an idiot birther?

Be proud birthers , now is your chance to say either yes or no.

Is the President of the United States of America a citizen.
At any point in your life did you think he wasn't?

Did Donald Trump change your mind if in fact you were an idiot birther at one time.

Finally , Do ya'll still believe in the Tooth Fairy?

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by WTF

OK, this thread was about idiot birthers, who among us is an idiot birther?

Be proud birthers , now is your chance to say either yes or no.

Is the President of the United States of America a citizen.
At any point in your life did you think he wasn't?

Did Donald Trump change your mind if in fact you were an idiot birther at one time.

Finally , Do ya'll still believe in the Tooth Fairy?

This is what's called a strawman argument. It's a tactic the left uses all the time. You pretend that the question is whether or not Obama is a citizen; that is not the question. If citizenship was sufficient to meet the constitutional standard for the presidency then Arnold Scharzenegger could be president; after all he's a citizen.

The standard is whether or not Obama is a natural born citizen. The circumstances of his birth are complex. He was no doubt a dual citizen at birth since his father was a Kenyan citizen. His paternal grandmother says that she was there when he was born in Mombasa Kenya. Obama failed to produce a long form birth certificate for over two years and pretended that the short form certificate of live birth was actually a birth certificate. There are all sorts of facts that complicate the issue of determining his natural born status.

Whether or not Obama is a natural born citizen is a legitimate question. I don't know whether he is or not. I don't think we'll ever know for sure. Obama's records have been so thoroughly hidden and probably altered that it is unlikely we will ever be able to determine exactly who he really is.

[JD Barleycorn]

You found the point Joe. We assume that Obama is a natural born American but there are way too many questions that should have been answered by the democratic party and Obama before the election. David Axelrod is famous full pulling crap out of his ass and using it on other candidates. All he needs to know is what you were doing and where you were doing it 30, 35, 40 years ago. This is why he has worked so hard to hide Obama's past. A fews ago some friends and I were discussing John Kerry. We conjured up the notion that we could put something on the Internet to discredit him to watch the fun. We found that Kerry was in Kansas City in 1971 protesting the VA headquarters (why someone would protest the veterans group is beyond me) on certain days that he listed in his book. So what would hurt a former protester? We figured that he could have been pulled over by a local cop and was found with drugs and/or a weapon. The cop calls it in and a supervisor arrives with a staffer from Ted Kennedy in tow. The cop is convinced that nothing happened and Kerry is let go. The cop kept a copy of the original ticket and now his widow finds it. Plausible scenario because we know where Kerry was and when he was there. We could find a deceased officer that was on duty that day and find a copy of a 1970s report. The important thing is that we knew where Kerry was.

Today, because Obama's past is so hidden it becomes very difficult to come up with someone from his past. If you had a real person show up and say that she and Obama used drugs and had group sex with the Harvard debate team, we can't prove it because we don't know where Obama was on any given day. That is a real person and you can't prove it without photos. Now try to do an Axelrod and make up a person bringing up charges. Person A says that Obama and him went to Cuba from Canada and brought back drugs. Obama (if it isn't true) can now show where he was that day and the story is busted. This is Axelrod.

There was one other president who was probably not a natural born American; Chester A. Arthur. He was born in Canada about six months before his parents moved into the United States and his parents fudged his birthplace long before he went into politics. Wow, how did they know he would be president someday?

a place to start http://www.genealogue.com/2005/06/ou...president.html

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You found the point Joe. We assume that Obama is a natural born American but there are way too many questions that should have been answered by the democratic party and Obama before the election. David Axelrod is famous full pulling crap out of his ass and using it on other candidates. All he needs to know is what you were doing and where you were doing it 30, 35, 40 years ago. This is why he has worked so hard to hide Obama's past. A fews ago some friends and I were discussing John Kerry. We conjured up the notion that we could put something on the Internet to discredit him to watch the fun. We found that Kerry was in Kansas City in 1971 protesting the VA headquarters (why someone would protest the veterans group is beyond me) on certain days that he listed in his book. So what would hurt a former protester? We figured that he could have been pulled over by a local cop and was found with drugs and/or a weapon. The cop calls it in and a supervisor arrives with a staffer from Ted Kennedy in tow. The cop is convinced that nothing happened and Kerry is let go. The cop kept a copy of the original ticket and now his widow finds it. Plausible scenario because we know where Kerry was and when he was there. We could find a deceased officer that was on duty that day and find a copy of a 1970s report. The important thing is that we knew where Kerry was.

Today, because Obama's past is so hidden it becomes very difficult to come up with someone from his past. If you had a real person show up and say that she and Obama used drugs and had group sex with the Harvard debate team, we can't prove it because we don't know where Obama was on any given day. That is a real person and you can't prove it without photos. Now try to do an Axelrod and make up a person bringing up charges. Person A says that Obama and him went to Cuba from Canada and brought back drugs. Obama (if it isn't true) can now show where he was that day and the story is busted. This is Axelrod.

There was one other president who was probably not a natural born American; Chester A. Arthur. He was born in Canada about six months before his parents moved into the United States and his parents fudged his birthplace long before he went into politics. Wow, how did they know he would be president someday?

a place to start http://www.genealogue.com/2005/06/ou...president.html

The whole issue of natural born citizenship is addressed in a very scholarly and thorough way by Jermome Corsi in his book "Where's the Birth Certificate". The issue has come up quite a few times in history of presidential elections. It's a complex issue partly because there's not a lot case law to refer to.

I think there's a good chance the Democrats will try to amend the constitution to open eligibility for the presidency to foreign born naturalized citizens as a way of locking in the Hispanic vote. If the Mexican-American vote becomes a 95% block vote owned by the Democrats, they will be the permanent majority party.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

There was one other president who was probably not a natural born American; Chester A. Arthur. He was born in Canada about six months before his parents moved into the United States and his parents fudged his birthplace long before he went into politics. Wow, how did they know he would be president someday?

a place to start http://www.genealogue.com/2005/06/ou...president.html

knew about Arthur, he was being challenged by democrat operatives on his elgibility twice.

that explains why he burned most of his papers shortly before his death.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

. A fews ago some friends and I were discussing John Kerry. We conjured up the notion that we could put something on the Internet to discredit him to watch the fun.

Now that we all know you to be a self admitted liar, the question becomes when the neurosyphilis started affecting your thinking. Before you Log Cabin gathering in KC fours years ago or after you first Tea bagger rally?

BTW, what piece of shit does these kind of things? Did you set cats on fire as a kid for kicks? Pull the legs off crickets?

I take the Log Cabin crack back, no respectible gay would let you lick on his willie.

[Whirlaway]

Obama's recently "found" birth certificate may be a phony or not.....

But Obama is hiding somthing in his academic records...........probably the fact that he applied for admissions and financial aid as a foreign student.

This past week the Obama campgain demanded Romney release all his financial records, yet the Obama campgain won't release thier own requested documents !

[WTF]

Originally Posted by WTF

OK, this thread was about idiot birthers, who among us is an idiot birther?

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Whether or not Obama is a natural born citizen is a legitimate question. I don't know whether he is or not. I don't think we'll ever know for sure. Obama's records have been so thoroughly hidden and probably altered that it is unlikely we will ever be able to determine exactly who he really is.

I take this as a yes you are a birther. Why else would you believe his birth record was altered?

Ok , one not so proud birther idiot.

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Today, because Obama's past is so hidden it becomes very difficult to come up with someone from his past. l

Another natural born birther idiot! So far two. Better than one as one is the loneliest number.

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

knew about Arthur, he was being challenged by democrat operatives on his elgibility twice.

that explains why he burned most of his papers shortly before his death.

dilbert, I would be greatly dissappointed if you were a birther. The above post sheds no light. Are you or aren't you? If you had to bet money, which direction would you go? Idiot birther or follower of common sense?

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by WTF

I take this as a yes you are a birther. Why else would you believe his birth record was altered?

Ok , one not so proud birther idiot.




Another natural born birther idiot! So far two. Better than one as one is the loneliest number.




dilbert, I would be greatly dissappointed if you were a birther. The above post sheds no light. Are you or aren't you? If you had to bet money, which direction would you go? Idiot birther or follower of common sense?

It doesn't bother me to be called an idiot by someone like you, since I have no respect for your intellect or character.

[i'va biggen]

Birthers are a funny bunch,what I call bull shit they call lunch.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by ekim008

Birthers are a funny bunch,what I call bull shit they call lunch.

What I call shit, you call your brain.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

It doesn't bother me to be called an idiot by someone like you, since I have no respect for your intellect or character.

the nation is calling you an idiot. Only the bitter clinton fem's and you dim wits believe this shit. Hate can make you blind and you about as blind as they come on this issue. Btw you have never met me. You have no idea about either. I have no idea about your character or intelligence. I do know byou are an idiot on this issue. I thought you were smart enough to know the difference.

[JD Barleycorn]

I smell WTF's urine. I think he wet himself. That happens sometimes under extreme stress to a dog.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Obama's recently "found" birth certificate may be a phony or not.....

But Obama is hiding somthing in his academic records...........probably the fact that he applied for admissions and financial aid as a foreign student.

This past week the Obama campgain demanded Romney release all his financial records, yet the Obama campgain won't release thier own requested documents !

Obama's birth certificate that showed up three years after he should have provided it (only after Donald Trump forces him to produce one) reminds me of Hillary Clinton's billing records from her legal work for Madison Savings and Loan in Whitewater land deal.

She stonewalled the FBI and wouldn't provide them for months. Then suddenly when it looked like they were going to charge her with obstruction, she "finds" them.

Democrats are all scum.