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				PSE, What's your definition.
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Most have their own idea of what exactly PSE is defined by. I'm curiouse as to everyone's take on this. Both Providers, and clients. This should be interesting as to what most think a good PSE session should consist of to go beyond GFE. Everone please chime in, and this could be educational to some who stumble upon this thread who may have wondered. 
I'll start. PSE to me is DFK, BBBJ-BBBJDT, CIM-COF, Greek, CFS in all positions imaginable,  and with more extreme PSE some Face FuckingBBBJNQNS.  
Look forward to hering others take on PSE. Have fun, and a great weekend to all.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-15-2011, 06:18 PM
			
			
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			My definition: 
 
I walk away feeling like I starred in a porno movie, and for a small extra fee, I have a DVD of it as a souvenir.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-15-2011, 06:25 PM
			
			
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I walk away feeling like I starred in a porno movie, and for a small extra fee, I have a DVD of it as a souvenir. 
			
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 Hell yea! Thats what i'm talkin about. And the DVD idea, Stellar. Thanks for the reply Wetwork Daddy....
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-15-2011, 06:42 PM
			
			
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			IMO a good PSE session should include multiple of the following: BBBJ w/CIM (Swallow is more PSE, but BBBJNQBS is still PSE), DT, Russian, Facial and MPCFS from unlimited positions (PSE bonus factor for Greek). 
To me GFE vs. PSE also has to do with the mood of the session. GFE is more sensual, whereas PSE is def all about let's suck, fuck and use each other in a much more carnal, primal experience IMO. 
 
Having a session with a Porn Star always helps too, like this one  http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=206545
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			04-15-2011, 07:40 PM
			
			
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			A DVD of "it?. People go for that? Well, mad props to them. Not this one   
Then again. .. I'm not PSE.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-15-2011, 07:45 PM
			
			
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			I posted a good PSE poll with both providers and clients side of votes. 
This thread a lot of poviders touched on what they felt it included.
 http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=122168
I did one bfor gfe too:
  http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=121064
The consensus for gents was more so services offered and attitude. 
 
For providers it was a half half split between attitude and services.
 
Id be willing to bet the providers think its more so attitude, but they also are aware guys are morre so concerned with activities of the session as well.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-15-2011, 07:54 PM
			
			
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				IMO a good PSE session should include multiple of the following: BBBJ w/CIM (Swallow is more PSE, but BBBJNQBS is still PSE), DT, Russian, Facial and MPCFS from unlimited positions (PSE bonus factor for Greek). 
			
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Well, if today's mainstream porn is what we're going by, you'd need to also include some slapping, spitting on the girl, choking her, and of course, some ridiculously uncomfortable positions.  
 
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			04-15-2011, 08:28 PM
			
			
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			Hey, Does PSE have to include greek? I've always wanted to advertise as PSE but I didn't want anyone to greek me    .
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-15-2011, 09:12 PM
			
			
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			I don't think PSE has to include greek.  For me the main difference is attitude--both of our attitudes.  Are we "lovers" (very loosely defined) or are we "fuckers"?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-15-2011, 09:35 PM
			
			
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				I don't think PSE has to include greek. For me the main difference is attitude--both of our attitudes. Are we "lovers" (very loosely defined) or are we "fuckers"? 
			
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 Good point. Ass slapping hardcore fucking could define PSE for some. Great comments so far. I'm already learning a lot from what I considered to be PSE. Thanks everyone for contibuting, and keep them coming.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-15-2011, 09:37 PM
			
			
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			04-15-2011, 10:44 PM
			
			
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			They say eightyeight percent of pornstars do greek now so I guess it's pretty much expected if you advertise  PSE.  I have had some sessions without it though that rocked my world entirely
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-15-2011, 10:58 PM
			
			
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				That's an easy one!!!
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			GFE is pleasurable for both....PSE is pleasureable for me!! 
  
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			04-15-2011, 11:03 PM
			
			
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			I always assumed PSE included greek, but then again, I don't watch much porn.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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