Baseball Season Is Here: Question of the Day: Was Derek Jeter Overrated?

[Salty Again]

... Hmmmm... Not sure WHY yer onto just Jeter there, mate.

You mention all the great players that the Yankees could add to
their side for A LOT of Winning season-meets. ... The whole time
Jeter was playing.

... But weren't the Yankees always that-way... The TOP team thru
the 1940s all the way to the 1960s?? ... Surely gotta wonder
just how many of THOSE players are in the Hall of Fame who
benefitted in the same manner that Jeter did? ... ... Just sayin'

#### Salty

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Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Hmmmm... Not sure WHY yer onto just Jeter there, mate.

You mention all the great players that the Yankees could add to
their side for A LOT of Winning season-meets. ... The whole time
Jeter was playing.

... But weren't the Yankees always that-way... The TOP team thru
the 1940s all the way to the 1960s?? ... Surely gotta wonder
just how many of THOSE players are in the Hall of Fame who
benefitted in the same manner that Jeter did? ... ... Just sayin'

#### Salty

A rising tide raises all ships!
The quintessential example of what I'm talking about is: Scott Brosious!
A .257 journeyman ... wallowing away in anonymity for the Oakland A's ... ready to be DFA'd!
He's traded to the Yankees ... he becomes a .300 hitter ... and becomes World Series MVP!
Go figure!

[Salty Again]

... Too right! ... They can't pitch-around ALL the Yankee's talent.
So, the lesser lads start seeing the fast balls over the plate!
And become BETTER hitters! ...

But, one more point about Jeter - I think he won at least one
"World Series Final - Most Valued Player" Award... So, at least
he could play well with the game on the line...

#### Salty

[adav8s28]

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Originally Posted by adav8s28

3,465 is a big #!

Derek Jeter's #s ... must be viewed in the same context!

I have no problems with Jeter being elected to the Hall of Fame on the first ballad. How many short stops have 3,465 hits with a life time batting average of 310? If Jeter hit 300 home runs instead of 260 the voting would have been unanimous on the first ballad.

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Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Too right! ... They can't pitch-around ALL the Yankee's talent.
So, the lesser lads start seeing the fast balls over the plate!
And become BETTER hitters! ...

But, one more point about Jeter - I think he won at least one
"World Series Final - Most Valued Player" Award... So, at least
he could play well with the game on the line...

#### Salty

Here's another example of what being surrounded by the best, luxury-tax free agents (George Steinbrenner's) $$$ could buy:
Take Joe Torre: As a manager of the Mets, Braves and Cardinals ... he was a loser ...he had a losing record of 912-996 a winning % .46!
He goes to the luxury-tax Yankees ... he wins 4 World Series in 5 years ... and makes the HOF!
Go figure!

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

Here's another example of what being surrounded by the best, luxury-tax free agents (George Steinbrenner's) $$$ could buy:
Take Joe Torre: As a manager of the Mets, Braves and Cardinals ... he was a loser ...he had a losing record of 912-996 a winning % .46!
He goes to the luxury-tax Yankees ... he wins 4 World Series in 5 years ... and makes the HOF!
Go figure!

... Hee Hee! ... ... The Yankees surely WON a lot
of games back-then, mate - Even Shithouse Sherman could o'
managed them...

We Australians got a name for a side like that - "push-button team"...

#### Salty

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Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Hee Hee! ... ... The Yankees surely WON a lot
of games back-then, mate - Even Shithouse Sherman could o'
managed them...

We Australians got a name for a side like that - "push-button team"...

#### Salty

No player in the history of MLB was surrounded by more luxury-tax free agents (during his entire 20-year career) ... than Derek Jeter!
(As an MLB player ...he led the Charmed Life!)
Where shall we begin?
Roger Clemens, Dwight Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, David Cone, David Wells, Tino Martinez, Joe Girardi, Jimmy Key, John Wetteland, Jeff Nelson, Kenny Rodgers, Wade Boggs, Mariano Duncan, Tim Raines, Cecil Fielder, Charlie Hays, Hideki Irabu, Mike Stanton, EL Duque, Chuck Knoblach, Chili Davis, Alphonso Soriano, David Justice, A.J. Burnett, CC Sabathia, Hideki Matsui, Mark Texeira, ARod!
(I hope I didn't forget anybody!)