Fascism in the streets of America, brought to you by MAGA

[Green_Mountain]

A couple of you are so on brand here.

You defend protestors that would be alive today if they actually protested peacefully and had followed instructions from law enforcement.

You use big scary words like fascism when it’s nothing more than fake fascism. You can’t even define fascism, let alone spot it.

You support the rights of illegals including murderers and rapists over the US citizens that are victims of these crimes.

Those US citizens shouldn’t be victims because the illegals that you prioritize over them, shouldn’t be here.

[HDGristle]

I support Americans not being shot dead by ICE when deadly force wasn't required.

Full stop. No extra pontificating or extra bullshit required.

That you don't speaks volumes

Here's some reading for you

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10....19058251376785

[Green_Mountain]

You support the rights of illegals over the rights of US citizens.

You use selective outrage and fake fascism as today’s buzzword for ICE to loose support and illegals to stay to embrace your globalist fetish and desire to erase western culture.

[Salty Again]

... Crikey! ... And I support American citizens NOT being killed
by illegals - as we see almost daily in the streets.
Car accidents and homicides.

The REAL "fascism" is what's happening and the Dems have little
if anything to say about it.

##### Salty

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Now list all the murdered and raped US citizens by illegals that shouldn’t have been here.

Want to see which list is longer?

And the American citizens killed in car wrecks - with the
illegals driving the cars.

... Put THAT "fascism" on the list also.

#### Salty

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

You support the rights of illegals over the rights of US citizens.

You use selective outrage and fake fascism as today’s buzzword for ICE to loose support and illegals to stay to embrace your globalist fetish and desire to erase western culture.

A bigger load of bullshit you would be harder to find. What a giant load.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Crikey! ... And I support American citizens NOT being killed
by illegals - as we see almost daily in the streets.
Car accidents and homicides.

The REAL "fascism" is what's happening and the Dems have little
if anything to say about it.

##### Salty

Originally Posted by Salty Again

And the American citizens killed in car wrecks - with the
illegals driving the cars.

... Put THAT "fascism" on the list also.

#### Salty

More lies. Glad to see the MAGA propaganda is working.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by jayzee43

Lol. I'll add you to the list of trumpers who now hate the 2nd Amendment. He was 100% within his rights to conceal carry to that protest.

Not a trumper. Don't hate the 2nd Amendment. Never said he wasn't within his rights. I called him dumb. Just because you have a right doesn't make it smart or prudent to exercise that right in every situation.

Originally Posted by jayzee43

And, by no means, did Renee Good attempt to "run over an ICE agent with her car".

How do you know what her intent was? She accelerated her vehicle straight at him. I watched the same video you did. Why would you expect an LE officer, who had been dragged and injured by a protestor a few days earlier, to make a split-second decision that this woman wasn't trying to run him over and kill him? Put yourself in his shoes. You libs always brag about being good at empathy.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I support Americans not being shot dead by ICE when deadly force wasn't required.

Me too.

Originally Posted by HDGristle

That you don't speaks volumes.

That you can't even imagine yourself in the shoes of the ICE officers involved speaks volumes.

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Here's some reading for you

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10....19058251376785

Thanks for the link. Am I supposed to read and respond to it? What's your point? Can you articulate it in your own words?

[HDGristle]

Well, it wasn't for you so do whatever you want it Lusty.

It was for GM.

As for what I can can't imagine or empathize with, you're wrong yet again but that's been an ongoing issue with you

[jayzee43]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

A bigger load of bullshit you would be harder to find. What a giant load.

It's one of his special talents. Just a firehose of bullshit.

[jayzee43]

Originally Posted by lustylad

How do you know what her intent was? She accelerated her vehicle straight at him. I watched the same video you did. Why would you expect an LE officer, who had been dragged and injured by a protestor a few days earlier, to make a split-second decision that this woman wasn't trying to run him over and kill him? Put yourself in his shoes. You libs always brag about being good at empathy.

Lol. How do YOU know what her intent was?

The video that we all saw shows her steering in the exact opposite direction of the ICE agent. She was fleeing the scene, not trying to run anyone over.

I understand it's totally on brand for MAGAs, but the Orwellian "don't believe your lying eyes" nonsense only works on people who can't think for themselves.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by jayzee43

The video that we all saw shows her steering in the exact opposite direction of the ICE agent. She was fleeing the scene, not trying to run anyone over.

That's a bald-faced lie. The "exact opposite direction" would mean she was driving AWAY from him. The videos clearly showed her driving directly TOWARD him.

She may have tried to swerve at the last second, but by then the ICE officer had already pulled his gun in self-defense and it was too late.

You amaze me, jayzee. I know you have a penchant for distorting the truth, but to watch a video and then tell people the EXACT OPPOSITE occurred versus what we just saw with our own eyes requires exceptional chutzpah. And that's putting it mildly.

You're just trolling again, right? Your reference to "Orwellian 'don't-believe-your-lying-eyes' nonsense" is pure projection.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

As for what I can or can't imagine or empathize with, you're correct yet again, just like you were during our earlier discussions of Americans murdered by illegal immigrants.

FTFY, Mr. Gristle.

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Crikey! ... And I support American citizens NOT being killed
by illegals - as we see almost daily in the streets.
Car accidents and homicides.

The REAL "fascism" is what's happening and the Dems have little
if anything to say about it.

##### Salty

Crikey. Still at it.

Undocumented immigrants commit crimes at substantially lower rates than native-born Americans. Native-born citizens are twice as likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely for drug crimes and four times more likely for property crimes. This comes from Texas Department of Public Safety data — the one state that actually tracks immigration status of every arrestee.

The Cato Institute — not a liberal organization by any stretch — puts the native-born incarceration rate at 1,195 per 100,000. Illegal immigrants: 674. As immigrant share of the US population doubled between 1980 and 2022, the total crime rate dropped 60%.

So the "almost daily" killings by illegals narrative is not supported by the data. It's supported by Fox News and fear.

How long do you reckon we'll be waiting for a single statistic to show up in one of your posts?

Originally Posted by Salty Again

And the American citizens killed in car wrecks - with the
illegals driving the cars.

... Put THAT "fascism" on the list also.

#### Salty

Still waiting on those statistics, and here comes another claim without a single number attached to it.

Undocumented immigrants are actually less likely to drive under the influence than native-born Americans — that's not an opinion, it's from a peer-reviewed study in the American Journal of Public Health. The same data set that shows lower arrest rates across virtually every crime category.

"Almost daily" was already wrong. Now we've moved to car accidents with zero data. The plural of anecdote is not statistics, Salty — it's just more anecdotes.

The list of things you've asserted without evidence is growing considerably longer than the list of things you've demonstrated.

Still waiting.