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Old 04-14-2026, 12:00 AM   #1
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Exclamation For those who needs to have their eyes and minds opened to see the BIG PICTURE.

You see Venezuela and Iran and you just want to say Trump is starting a war. Trump is abusing his power.

NO! Trump is a businessman and this is what it's all about!!

Before you start SCREAMING FOX NEWS reported this so it's MAGA propaganda and lies:

This has been fact checked as true. All you need to do is go to any marine traffic websites and see for yourselves.

https://energynewsbeat.co/crude-oil/...lf-of-america/

Now with the strait of Hormuz closed and tankers can't get in and load up on oil and natural gas, don't be naive and think the United States and European countries are the only ones who get oil and natural gas from that region.

Also China and Russia get their oil and natural gas from that region.

Without it, Russia and China will come to a halt. Unless they start buying from the USA!

You see the strategy now? How smart President Trump is?

All these 121 tankers headed to the USA be filling up with American oil and liquefied natural gas.

That's just the first 121 tankers on many more to come to the USA !!

That means money into our economy. Job creations for more workers to work the oil and gas fields.

Companies that manufacture equipment required for oil and gas fields also will see increase businesses and money into their economy.

Everyone will benefits. Those oil and natural gas workers need places to sleep, food in their bellies. That means motels, restaurants, grocery stores, gas stations will see increased income.

For example, Wyoming is one of the states that depends largely on natural gas fields drilling.

They will make more money now.

No insurance = tankers from China and Russia will not run. Like a car having no insurance and you don't want to risk driving it.

This is also true. Don't believe me? Google it yourself!!

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London-based marine insurers are canceling or restricting war risk cover for oil tankers passing through the Persian Gulf/Strait of Hormuz due to intense conflict risks in early 2026. This affects global shipping, with insurance companies such as Gard, Skuld, NorthStandard, and the London P&I Club implementing these changes.

Risk Context: The move comes as several oil tankers were hit or damaged, with significant danger to vessels in the Middle East.

Impact on China/Asia: The cancellations affect, in part, the significant volume of oil transport to China, as Asian shipowners are exposed to these Western insurance policy changes.

Market Reaction: Insurance rates for the region are expected to rise by 50% to 100% or more, with insurers reviewing risks rather than halting all coverage entirely.

Alternatives: While some coverage is being restricted, some firms are investigating "buy-back" options to reinstate cover, and the U.S. has proposed a $20 billion plan for government-backed insurance, which faces scrutiny.

Reinsurance Shifts: Reports indicate that maritime insurance is shifting from London to other markets as political risk affects conventional coverage.
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Old 04-14-2026, 12:29 AM   #2
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I sincerely hope you are kidding with this shit. I wish your brilliant senile master would come out and say how financially beneficial this nonsense will eventually be to America. That would be awesome!!! Lol
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Old 04-14-2026, 12:37 AM   #3
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So the US taxpayer is on the hook for billions of dollars in debt, including interest payments, all so International oil companies can make more profits, while the rest of the world is continuing to transition to renewable power just as fast as they possibly can. Most of which renewable technologies and energy grid upgrades are going to be supplied by Chinese companies.
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Old 04-14-2026, 12:42 AM   #4
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I sincerely hope you are kidding with this shit. I wish your brilliant senile master would come out and say how financially beneficial this nonsense is to America. That would be awesome!!! Lol
Did you read anything I wrote? Do you think those 121 empty tankers are just going to fill up for free?

Do you go to the gas station and fill up your vehicle gas tank for free?

Stop being so hostile because Trump is doing it.

If this was Obama or Hillary Clinton or Biden or Harris in the White House and doing the same thing, you will be praising them!
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Old 04-14-2026, 02:04 AM   #5
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Trump is a many time failed business man that is known to stiff his contractors and put them out of business.

The oil market is world wide. Cut the supply and prices go up. Countries differ on what type of crude they are geared to process profitably. Gulf refineries buy heavier crude at a discount because they are able to process it profitably. East coast refineries tend to want lighter sweet crude due to their more simple refineries.


I assure you Obama, Hillary or Harris wouldn't have gotten us into this disaster. Iran would still be held under the JCPOA for at least 5 more years and Iran wouldn't be anywhere close to having weapons grade Uranium.
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Old 04-14-2026, 06:16 AM   #6
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Did you read anything I wrote? Do you think those 121 empty tankers are just going to fill up for free?

Do you go to the gas station and fill up your vehicle gas tank for free?

Stop being so hostile because Trump is doing it.

If this was Obama or Hillary Clinton or Biden or Harris in the White House and doing the same thing, you will be praising them!
The fact that you believe that bullshityou co-opted from some wack job on the interwebs and posted like you thought it up, says all we need to know. This was not some great smart play. It doesn’t make America some great oil exporting power to usurp the Oil Emirates.
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Old 04-14-2026, 07:18 AM   #7
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I assure you Obama, Hillary or Harris wouldn't have gotten us into this disaster. Iran would still be held under the JCPOA for at least 5 more years and Iran wouldn't be anywhere close to having weapons grade Uranium.
Can you imagine what the MAGA crowd would have to say if Obama led the US into a war of choice in Iran over a weekend and said we had to do it because Israel started it? lolz
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Old 04-14-2026, 07:40 AM   #8
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Trolling misinformation … par for this course.

It takes a special kinda person to look at the situation and claim Trump is winning.

It takes an extreme special kinda person to actually believe it.
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Old 04-14-2026, 08:22 AM   #9
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You see Venezuela and Iran and you just want to say Trump is starting a war. Trump is abusing his power.

NO! Trump is a businessman and this is what it's all about!!

Before you start SCREAMING FOX NEWS reported this so it's MAGA propaganda and lies:

This has been fact checked as true. All you need to do is go to any marine traffic websites and see for yourselves.

https://energynewsbeat.co/crude-oil/...lf-of-america/

Now with the strait of Hormuz closed and tankers can't get in and load up on oil and natural gas, don't be naive and think the United States and European countries are the only ones who get oil and natural gas from that region.

Also China and Russia get their oil and natural gas from that region.

Without it, Russia and China will come to a halt. Unless they start buying from the USA!

You see the strategy now? How smart President Trump is?

All these 121 tankers headed to the USA be filling up with American oil and liquefied natural gas.

That's just the first 121 tankers on many more to come to the USA !!

That means money into our economy. Job creations for more workers to work the oil and gas fields.

Companies that manufacture equipment required for oil and gas fields also will see increase businesses and money into their economy.

Everyone will benefits. Those oil and natural gas workers need places to sleep, food in their bellies. That means motels, restaurants, grocery stores, gas stations will see increased income.

For example, Wyoming is one of the states that depends largely on natural gas fields drilling.

They will make more money now.

No insurance = tankers from China and Russia will not run. Like a car having no insurance and you don't want to risk driving it.

This is also true. Don't believe me? Google it yourself!!
Here's the big picture. Russia doesn't depend on the Strait of Hormuz they produce their own oil. China does depend on the Strait of Hormuz, but they will make deals with Russia for oil not so much with America. It's cheaper for China to go through Russia. This war makes zero sense and nothing good will come of it.
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Old 04-14-2026, 08:46 AM   #10
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You see Venezuela and Iran and you just want to say Trump is starting a war. Trump is abusing his power.

NO! Trump is a businessman and this is what it's all about!!

Before you start SCREAMING FOX NEWS reported this so it's MAGA propaganda and lies:

This has been fact checked as true. All you need to do is go to any marine traffic websites and see for yourselves.

https://energynewsbeat.co/crude-oil/...lf-of-america/

Now with the strait of Hormuz closed and tankers can't get in and load up on oil and natural gas, don't be naive and think the United States and European countries are the only ones who get oil and natural gas from that region.

Also China and Russia get their oil and natural gas from that region.

Without it, Russia and China will come to a halt. Unless they start buying from the USA!

You see the strategy now? How smart President Trump is?

All these 121 tankers headed to the USA be filling up with American oil and liquefied natural gas.

That's just the first 121 tankers on many more to come to the USA !!

That means money into our economy. Job creations for more workers to work the oil and gas fields.

Companies that manufacture equipment required for oil and gas fields also will see increase businesses and money into their economy.

Everyone will benefits. Those oil and natural gas workers need places to sleep, food in their bellies. That means motels, restaurants, grocery stores, gas stations will see increased income.

For example, Wyoming is one of the states that depends largely on natural gas fields drilling.

They will make more money now.

No insurance = tankers from China and Russia will not run. Like a car having no insurance and you don't want to risk driving it.

This is also true. Don't believe me? Google it yourself!!
As usual in copy/paste posts of this nature, this mixes some real facts with some serious magical thinking.

Yes, tankers are heading to the US Gulf Coast. That part is true. They're doing so because the worst energy disruption in the history of the global oil market — the IEA's words, not mine — is forcing buyers to find alternatives. Gas is above $4. Oil hit $126 a barrel. That's not a win. That's a crisis creating an opportunity inside a bigger crisis.

The "Russia and China will grind to a halt" theory has a few problems. Russia doesn't import oil — it exports it, mostly overland via pipeline to China and Europe. China gets roughly half its gas via overland pipelines from Russia, not through Hormuz. Iran has also been quietly letting Chinese and Russian vessels through the strait the entire time. So the theory that closing Hormuz starves Russia and China into buying American oil doesn't hold up against what's actually happening.

The US can export around 5 million barrels a day before hitting infrastructure limits. Global demand is around 100 million barrels a day. American production fills a gap — it doesn't replace the system.

The tankers are real. The chess master strategy is considerably less so.
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Old 04-14-2026, 09:30 AM   #11
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Can you imagine...and said we had to do it because Israel started it? lolz
Nope. No credible person said "we had to do it because Israel started it".
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Old 04-14-2026, 09:47 AM   #12
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Nope. No credible person said "we had to do it because Israel started it".
More interesting than the question whether we were dragged into the conflict by Israel is what was really going on just two days before the bombing started.

On February 26, Oman reported that Iran agreed to zero enrichment capacity and full IAEA verification. Further talks had been arranged to start on March 2. Meanwhile, the US and Israel struck on February 28, in the middle of talks which Oman's own Foreign Minister called "quite significant progress."

Following the attack Oman expressed its dismay at the situation and the fact that active negotiations had been undermined. Following that, US Middle East envoy Witkoff grossly misrepresented Iran's promises — and the diplomats who negotiated the deal corrected his statements publicly.

Oh, and the bombings weren't a spur-of-the-moment action either. According to Wikipedia's report of the operation, there were "months of joint US and Israeli strategic and operational deception" preceding the attack. Meaning that all those months the US and Israel were planning the operation, while we were actively negotiating in Geneva.

And so it turned out that our war started two days after a diplomatic breakthrough, during active negotiations, due to a preplanned operation.
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Old 04-14-2026, 11:04 AM   #13
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Nope. No credible person said "we had to do it because Israel started it".
No one has to say it.
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Old 04-14-2026, 11:12 AM   #14
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I think we all know what occurred. It was an attack of opportunity from the view of Israel. They believed incorrectly they could end the regime by killing most if not all of the highest ranking members of the regime. They knew that a full retaliatory strike would come as a result and told the US, get with us, we can do this.

We and Israel did. It didn’t end the regime and now we’re trying to find a way out of any continued conflict that allows us to claim victory. Sadly, there doesn’t seem to be a way of achieving that where the US doesn’t leave Iran in a stronger position or where we aren’t intermittently dropping bombs on them every 6-8 months to prevent their rearming or taking full control over the Strait or even possibly the Sea itself.
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Old 04-14-2026, 11:31 AM   #15
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Man I hope this does not turn into Vietnam and a draft is introduced.
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