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Old 04-07-2026, 04:50 PM   #106
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Default Apologies, fuzzy memory moment on my end...

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...it's knocked out 20% of global oil and LNG at the same time, while also disrupting fertilizers, helium, and food imports for Gulf states that rely on the strait for 80% of their calories...
Can you remind us who is the blocker of said commerce in the Strait?

Ooops! Just found it on the internets...

"Iranian IRGC Declares ‘Restraint is Over,’ Threatens to Obliterate US-Linked Infrastructure and Starve World of Oil for YEARS"

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Old 04-08-2026, 10:02 PM   #107
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to me the status of the Strait hasn't changed much compared to before the cease fire. limited movement of ships, must coordinate with the IRGC, must pay tolls, etc. etc.

is this the deal our stable genius consummate deal-maker got out of his apocalyptic threats?

at this point, who cares about Iranian nukes? the Strait is their nuke. it took Trump's idiotic war to show them the way. great job, Orange Clown!

Trump handed Iran a nuke and no more sanctions on their oil. and MAGA calls this winning..
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Old 04-09-2026, 06:21 AM   #108
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Default Missing the point much?

Let's start with the confessional.
#10 is a basic admission of their continued support of terrorist cells, across the board.

Let's look at #8: remove all US bases in the Middle East. Ironically enough, Trump is more likely to remove the EU-NATO bases before we would do that.

Sidebar: Anyone see: Russian Warship Escorts Sanctioned Tankers Across the English Channel, In Complete Defiance of Starmer’s Threats and the Royal Navy?

Rumors are that Putin was on the vessel and mooning Starmer as they floated by. But that could just be bunk-o.

Simple conclusion on the rest and the whole: Codswallop, Propaganda, Horse-pucky, Utter nonsense. Those items are not up for discussion - period. That is not a list of negotiable points. I dare say the whole "toll" thing is same.

We have yet to see what is on the real table and if Iran keeps bombing, I suspect resuming of hostilities to follow.
  1. ...A full and permanent end to all “hostilities” (read: no more accountability for attacking U.S. interests or choking global oil supplies)
  2. Immediate lifting of all crippling U.S. economic sanctions
  3. Establishment of a new “security framework” in the region that would neuter America’s allies and legitimize Iran’s terror proxies
  4. Ironclad guarantees for “safe passage” through the Strait of Hormuz — under Iranian terms, of course
  5. Massive Western-funded reconstruction commitments to repair the damage from their own provocations
  6. No restrictions whatsoever on Iran’s nuclear weapons program
  7. An end to any curbs on its ballistic missile development
  8. U.S. withdrawal of forces from key areas of the Persian Gulf
  9. Reparations payments for “damages” caused by Trump’s targeted strikes
  10. Formal recognition of Iran’s “legitimate” influence across the Middle East (including its Hezbollah, Houthis, and Hamas terror networks)...
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^^so you concede that the cease fire agreement isn't worth the paper it's printed on. i concur..
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Old 04-09-2026, 12:35 PM   #110
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^^so you concede that the cease fire agreement isn't worth the paper it's printed on. i concur..
I agree that DNA and fingerprint analysis won't turn up results for Donald J Trump, aka the Man, the Myth, the Legend on it.
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