Iran's New Conditions to End the War..

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by royamcr

It's true that was an issue at the time. I wonder how hard we tried to pressure them to give access. The sunset clauses were there to "reward" cooperation. Just shit canning the whole deal, by us anyway, was stupid. The other countries that signed stayed the course at least. I mean if we at least got a new deal done that was better then ok. But that didn't happen.

Google search on "JCPOA Compliance" returns:


As of 2025, Iran is in non-compliance with the 2015 JCPOA nuclear restrictions, having accelerated uranium enrichment and restricted IAEA monitoring following the U.S. withdrawal in 2018
. Iran currently enriches uranium up to 60% and maintains stockpiles above agreed limits. European partners initiated "snapback" sanctions in late 2025.
Key Aspects of JCPOA Compliance:

• Original Agreement: Signed in July 2015, the JCPOA (Iran nuclear deal) restricted Iran's nuclear program—limiting uranium enrichment levels (
  
  ), stockpile sizes, and centrifuge usage—in exchange for sanctions relief.
• Compliance Timeline: Iran was in full compliance until May 2019, one year after the U.S. unilaterally withdrew.
• Current Violations: Iran has breached limits by accumulating high-enriched uranium, installing advanced centrifuges, and resuming 20% enrichment at the Fordow facility.
• Monitoring Issues: Iran suspended its implementation of the Additional Protocol in 2021, limiting IAEA inspection capabilities.

According to Google's AI Iran was compliant with the JCPOA and did not enrich above the 3.67% cap that the agreement set. It also states that Iran did not start to enrich the Uranium past the 3.67% cap until one year after Trump took the USA out of the deal. See Compliance Timeline bullet.


So, Trump took the USA out of the JCPOA agreement in May 2018. Iran waited a full year before starting to breach the limits of enriched Uranium they could have by reinstalling the high speed centrifuges that had been turned off or as someone wrote "mothballed". This allowed them to enrich up to the 60% concentration they have today.


Bottom line if they were doing all the cheating that has been implied by some they would have been way past 60% concentration of U-235 by now.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

So's yer say'n we can trust Iran when they say they have no nukes (material), but when they chant Death to America, it's just "hyperbolic rhetoric rather than a reflection of the entire Iranian population's beliefs"?

You do know that for the past few years they have refused inspectors. AmmIrite?!?

Originally Posted by adav8s28

The JCPOA agreement Obama signed with Iran and six other countries was doing just that. The agreement had a limit on how much enriched Uranium Iran could have. The agreement was working just fine until Trump took the USA out of the deal in May 2018 during his first term as president...

[VitaMan]

Trump, bluffing away the day.


"The president added that “great progress has been made,” he also said that if a peace deal is not reached soon, and the Strait of Hormuz is not “immediately” reopened, the U.S. will “conclude our lovely ‘stay’ in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their Electric Generating Plants, Oil Wells and Kharg Island (and possibly all desalinization plants!), which we have purposefully not yet ‘touched.’”

[1blackman1]

He’s just trying to keep the market from tanking when he says anything about negotiations. There are no serious negotiations. All that’s going on now is continued hold up of the oil in the strait.

[pxmcc]

ya he has no cred. he lies so much that you can't take anything he says seriously. Iran has more cred than Trump, actually.

he's also advertising war crimes.

[VitaMan]

If Trump did those things, the Strait would be closed for years. Trump always says things are going very well, negotiations are progressing. Trump said the peace negotiations for the Ukraine Russia conflict were a done deal.


If something goes wrong or he loses, it is always because of fraud, cheating, or whatever else comes out of his mouth.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

You do know that for the past few years they have refused inspectors. AmmIrite?!?

That was after Trump took the USA out of the JPCOA agreement in May 2018. According to these folks Iran was compliant with the JPCOA before Trump bolted. In addition to that, the AI results of a Google search in Post #76 say that Iran was compliant as well up until the time Trump took the USA out of the deal.




https://armscontrolcenter.org/a-wort...ned-the-jcpoa/

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Actually the International Atomic Energy Agency was looking. That was the entire point behind the JCPOA.

Yes, according to the Wiki link below, Inspectors from the IAEA had 24 hour access to the Fordow and Natanz nuclear plants. The high speed centrifuges were under constant monitoring 24/7 in real time.

From the link:

The IAEA was to have multilayered[78] oversight "over Iran's entire nuclear supply chain, from uranium mills to its procurement of nuclear-related technologies".[79] For sites such as Fordow and Natanz, the IAEA was to have 24-hour access to nuclear facilities and maintain continuous monitoring (including via surveillance equipment).[79][80] The agreement authorized the IAEA to use sophisticated monitoring technology, such as fiber-optic equipment seals that could send the IAEA information; satellite imagery to detect covert sites; sensors to detect minute nuclear specimens; and tamper- and radiation-resistant cameras.[47][81] Other tools included software to gather information and detect anomalies, and datasets on imports.[78] The number of inspectors tripled to 150.[47]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal

[pxmcc]

^^Obama should have renamed it the Trump No Nukes for Iran Deal. what was he even thinking..

(and Trumpcare too..)

[pxmcc]

if Trump can negotiate an agreement to permanently open the Strait without tolls in exchange for security guarantees for Iran without a ground invasion, he should take it and thank his lucky stars..

otherwise this ground war is gonna be completely awful for both sides, imo..

leaving now without a deal to open the Strait would be basically a great big eff you to the world..

of course we all know Trump only cares about himself, so there's that..

[pxmcc]

here's an offer that Trump would be a fool not to take.

https://www.axios.com/2026/03/31/chi...rait-ceasefire

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

...https://www.axios.com/2026/03/31/chi...rait-ceasefire

Sorry, Axios requires membership. Can't read the article. But I get the gist of it as: China and Pakistan want to insure oil flows through the Strait unmolested. AmmIrite.

Any idea where it's headed to and how it get's there?
Let's start with some old-aged technology, locally known as an Atlas. You might remember them from your early school years.

Any idea why the Chyyyyna and Pakistan would be so loving, caring and altruistic?

The Chyyyna gets a touch over 54% of it's oil through the Strait, mostly from Saudi Arabia, I think.

Pakistan clocks in upwards of 80+%.

Or is it something else; known locally as self-serving.

FWIW: Trump already told them that they were free to escort their ships if so interested. If not, then oh well...

[pxmcc]

a cease fire in exchange for opening the Strait. Pakistan and China were the intermediaries.

opening the Strait is a bfd. basically China and Pakistan are trying to save Trump from himself while pursuing their own self interest.

Trump is in a bad spot. he needs a miraculous save. que the China/Pakistan offer to bail Trump out. i'm sure Iran is on board cause they're about to be fooked..

everyone knows that either a deal gets done or bilateral slaughter awaits..

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Sorry, Axios requires membership. Can't read the article. But I get the gist of it as: China and Pakistan want to insure oil flows through the Strait unmolested. AmmIrite.

Any idea where it's headed to and how it get's there?
Let's start with some old-aged technology, locally known as an Atlas. You might remember them from your early school years.

Any idea why the Chyyyyna and Pakistan would be so loving, caring and altruistic?

The Chyyyna gets a touch over 54% of it's oil through the Strait, mostly from Saudi Arabia, I think.

Pakistan clocks in upwards of 80+%.

Or is it something else; known locally as self-serving.

FWIW: Trump already told them that they were free to escort their ships if so interested. If not, then oh well...

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

...opening the Strait is a bfd...

Closing the Strait is a bfd. You might more accurately call it taking hostages or terrorism. Frankly, it's more in the delusional category, when you consider that there are 60 seconds in every minute to eliminate their abilities, aka bomb the bejesus out of their chite, to make good on their own illusions of grandeur.

[rooster]

So the fact that the Strait is essentially closed is an... illusion of grandeur?

Who knew!

Ima callin Lloyds of London right now. They are gonna be thrilled! Full speed ahead!

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