Captain Crazy blows up the leadership from Iran and that Iranians need to take control of the leadership.. what if they can't? What if the current administration is holds up in a few places to stop an overthrow of the current government?

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by jayzee43

He's not trying to "troll the libs"...

So it's not trump? Who is it, then?

[jayzee43]

His lies may trigger people (at least we're all admitting he lies now, which is vaguely refreshing), but the true purpose of his non-stop, incessant lying is to keep his base dumb and happy.

He's already changed his story 4 times on Iran. That can't be all for trolling purposes. He needs his little parrots to go forth and repeat his lies. By the way, it must be exhausting - changing your story as frequently as he does. Wow.

[bambino]

It’s wild how calm everyone is now.

The US MIL and IDF dominated Iran so fast, the public are barely even concerned anymore. It’s pretty much a controlled annihilation at this point.

Trump and the US MIL are building more trust with the public.

This is an important step.

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by bambino

It’s wild how calm everyone is now.

The US MIL and IDF dominated Iran so fast, the public are barely even concerned anymore. It’s pretty much a controlled annihilation at this point.

Trump and the US MIL are building more trust with the public.

This is an important step.

That doesn’t really line up with the polling that’s out there. The surveys I’ve seen show the public is actually pretty divided on the strikes, with a lot of people either opposed or unsure about them.

So the idea that “everyone is calm now” or that the public suddenly has complete trust in the plan seems more like wishful thinking than something backed up by evidence.

Big geopolitical events usually create debate and uncertainty, not universal calm — despite what Telegram channels might suggest.

[jayzee43]

Iran could strike again at any moment (we'll probably wake up tomorrow to the news). More unnecessary bloodshed is imminent. They want everyone to be calm. Calm people are easier targets.

[bambino]

Iranian ballistic missile attacks have decreased by 90% since Day 1.

Drone attacks have decreased by 83%.

30 Iranian ships have been sunk.

An Iranian drone carrier ship the size of a WWII aircraft carrier is on fire.

[bambino]

The operation in Iran is much more than just warfare. It’s a display of unparalleled military prowess.

A message is being sent to the world.

Our enemies in the present and future now understand, that if they choose to cross the US MIL, it will be the last mistake they make.

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by bambino

The operation in Iran is much more than just warfare. It’s a display of unparalleled military prowess.

A message is being sent to the world.

Our enemies in the present and future now understand, that if they choose to cross the US MIL, it will be the last mistake they make.

Really? The U.S. has had the most powerful military in the world for decades. It’s not like the world needed a reminder of that.

Framing military action as some kind of global “strength demonstration” is a strange way to justify it. Wars are usually debated in terms of necessity, strategy, and consequences — not as a performance to impress the audience.

Turning it into a speech about “unparalleled prowess” sounds more like campaign rhetoric than a serious argument.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Trump lied and exaggerated. He's also given wildly conflicting rationales for why he had to do this now.

"Wildly conflicting rationales"??

Nope, you're wrong again!

He and other administration spokespersons have clearly and articulately laid out FOUR KEY OBJECTIVES/RATIONALES. None of them conflict with each other:


1. Destroying Iran's missile capabilities.

2. Knocking off Iran's navy.

3. Ensuring Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon.

4. Ensuring the Iranian regime cannot arm, fund and direct terrorist armies outside their borders.


Hmm... I don't see how any of those 4 objectives are "conflicting"? To the contrary, they all seem complementary to me!

And before you bring up regime change, that's not an explicit objective. Let's just call it a potential bonus. And nothing about regime change conflicts with the other 4 stated objectives either!

If the Persian Gulf states get it, why can't you?


https://gulfnews.com/world/mena/trum...ed-1.500461406

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by jayzee43

He's already changed his story 4 times on Iran....

I must have missed that. Please list his 4 stories and explain how they are in conflict. Make sure they're not complementary.