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01-26-2026, 03:50 PM
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Bullshit. It’s already been posted that 30% of ICE agents are minorities. But almost 100% of illegals ARE minorities, who else should they look for?
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They should be looking for "the worst of the worst". But they're a bunch of fucking pussies going after low hanging fruit like kids, old ladies, working fathers...
They don't have the balls to go after the real criminals.
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01-26-2026, 04:24 PM
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This same tired argument was made months ago. It’s a boogeyman bc the Dems have nothing to offer from a policy perspective that appeals to the working class.
Let’s look at recent Fascist behaviors by the Democratic Party.
1. Suppression of Free Speech and Censorship: Democrats partnered with tech companies to censor "disinformation," such as during COVID-19 or elections, which critics liken to fascist media control.
Examples include the Biden administration's pressure on social media platforms to remove content, seen as protecting the party's narrative.
2. Government Overreach and Control of Industry: Policies like expanded regulations (e.g., on climate, healthcare, or tech) are viewed as fascist-style statism, where the government dominates the economy for the "common good."
3. Weaponization of Institutions Against Opponents: The use of the Justice Department or FBI to investigate political rivals (e.g., Trump-related probes or January 6 prosecutions) is called "lawfare," akin to fascist persecution of dissidents. Including detaining opponents without fair trials.
4. Gun Control as Disarmament: Strict gun laws in Democratic-led states are equated to fascist efforts to disarm citizens, preventing resistance to authoritarianism.
5. Division Along Identity Lines: Identity politics, DEI initiatives, and racial/ethnic focus are seen as pitting groups against each other, similar to fascist scapegoating or class division.
6. Undermining Democratic Processes: Nominating leaders like Kamala Harris without primaries is called anti-democratic, with illusions of choice maintained. Immigration policies are to alter voter demographics and change the outcome of elections.
7. Control of Education and Media: Influence over public schools, Hollywood, and media is compared to fascist propaganda machines.
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01-26-2026, 04:29 PM
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Bullshit. It’s already been posted that 30% of ICE agents are minorities. But almost 100% of illegals ARE minorities, who else should they look for? An Irish illegal? The two people that were shot were Caucasian.
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About 30% of ICE agents and approximately 50% of Border Patrol agents in the U.S. are Latino. This reflects a significant representation of minorities within these agencies, although they still face criticism for their roles in immigration enforcement.
University of Notre Dame latinorebels.com
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Exactly.
I think there needs to be a new universal definition on what constitutes the word minority.
Rough 2025–2026 estimates (based on regional/ancestral groupings):
Asian (East, South, Southeast): ~55–60%
Black/African descent: ~15–18%
White/European descent: ~10–16%
Hispanic/Latino & mixed (Americas): ~8–10%
Other/indigenous/mixed: ~5–10%
World population: ~8.2–8.3 billion.
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01-26-2026, 04:38 PM
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I’m pro ICE but this is going too far.
One question I have is how the hell do all of these protestors know where ICE is going!?!?
The other thing that ICE needs to do is provide information on who they are grabbing. When I see working family men being grabbed it makes no sense to me. Looks a lot like racism.
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You realize why MN has this problem and places like Texas don’t?
Texas law enforcement cooperates with ICE. MN does not
MN Dem leadership promote this behavior with the protestors to create chaos. Texas does not.
The protestors are almost assuredly paid and trained to be agitators. I’ve seen flyers sponsored by far left groups in Pittsburgh.
Lastly, where were the Dems when the people including women and people of an age i shall not mention, were murdered by illegal aliens? These victims didn’t choose to be in harms way. But Dem leadership opened the border and fight tooth and nail when deportation efforts are underway.
The Dems make that choice!
The Dems display a ton of fascist behaviors.
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01-26-2026, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jayzee43
They should be looking for "the worst of the worst". But they're a bunch of fucking pussies going after low hanging fruit like kids, old ladies, working fathers...
They don't have the balls to go after the real criminals.
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Provide links of old lady, children arrests. I’ll wait.
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01-26-2026, 04:40 PM
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The latter would be against forum rules. Which you know.
As far as old women, google Harjit Kaur. What they tried to do with Donna Hughes-Brown.
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01-26-2026, 04:44 PM
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The latter would be against forum rules. Which you know.
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He brought it up. And I know what he’s talking about. A total misrepresentation of what actually happened.
Thanks for playing Mr Gristle.
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01-26-2026, 04:47 PM
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He brought it up. And I know what he’s talking about. A total misrepresentation of what actually happened.
Thanks for playing Mr Gristle.
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Don't quite think you do, or you'd recognize he has a valid point.
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01-26-2026, 04:50 PM
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Don't quite think you do, or you'd recognize he has a valid point.
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No, he’s exaggerating. And you know it. BTW, Brown is actually Irish, which proves that ICE isn’t racially motivated!!!!!!!!
Thank you valued poster.
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01-26-2026, 04:54 PM
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Doesn't prove that at all. But you do have two data points that help make the case that they do target old ladies though.
3 if you include Rebecca Pinyerd
4 if you count Juana Flores
5 if you count Rabbiatu Kuyateh
6 if you count Yelenis Perez
We can keep going. All grandmas. All examples that people are protesting as heavy-handed fascism
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01-26-2026, 04:59 PM
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Doesn't prove that at all. But you do have two data points that help make the case that they do target old ladies though.
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For writing bad checks!!!!!!! The other instance he was talking about the father fled the scene. Leaving his offspring. The agents had no choice in that instance. They were reunited after they found the father. It’s not like ICE is targeting “old ladies”. That’s a lie and you know it.
How many of these are old ladies?
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ICE has arrested just under 150,000 illegal immigrants since the start of January 2025, with a significant increase in arrests noted in recent months. The agency's efforts have been part of a broader crackdown on illegal immigration.
The Maine Wire
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01-26-2026, 05:05 PM
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I don't know that at all. There is a case to be made, though
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01-26-2026, 05:06 PM
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Doesn't prove that at all. But you do have two data points that help make the case that they do target old ladies though.
3 if you include Rebecca Pinyerd
4 if you count Juana Flores
5 if you count Rabbiatu Kuyateh
6 if you count Yelenis Perez
We can keep going. All grandmas. All examples that people are protesting as heavy-handed fascism
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They all broke the law. Still a very small percentage.
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01-26-2026, 05:09 PM
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To his point, they aren't the worst of the worst but are still being targeted. Just as Pretti doesn't appear to have engaged then in any way that seems to justify lethal force.
Speeding tickets are being used as excuses to re-examine permanent residence and naturalization. That's taking manpower away from targeting the worst of the worst. That's what people like Pretti are protesting
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01-26-2026, 05:13 PM
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To his point, they aren't the worst of the worst but are still being targeted. Just as Pretti doesn't appear to have engaged then in any way that seems to justify lethal force.
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They’re not targeting old ladies. If they didn’t commit a crime, they wouldn’t be bothered. Pretti resisted while armed. Dumb move. Good ran over a Federal Agent, another dumb move. If you’re going to be stupid, the consequences are on you. Why don’t you and your buddie try those things. I double dare you.
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