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Old 12-29-2025, 09:37 PM   #31
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Somalians are creating fake transportation companies. They pretend to take people to and from appointments, but not a single one ever has a passenger

�� THERE ARE OVER 800 of these Somali owned in Minnesota

“I started to see all these transportation companies going around and it was always a Somali driver — but they never had a passenger, never ever once.

— So then I found out that in Minnesota, they have something called non-emergency medical transportation. So this is going to the dentist office, therapy, whatever it might be — and the research came back that there are 1,020 of them, and more than 800 of them are Somali-owned

Nobody from the state of Minnesota ever cross-checks to see if any rides were ever actually provided. All they did was write the check.”

... FRAUD - Minnesota's Democrat-run state!
BILLIONS in FRAUD... $$$$$ ALL Being Exposed!

... Thank you - to Rep. Omar and Guv Walz.
The Squad and the Sod in Action ...

... Cheating the public and the tax-payers! ...
... How Sad...

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Old 12-30-2025, 09:27 AM   #32
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DHS and DOD are conducting door to door raids today on Somali owned businesses in Minnesota suspected of “rampant fraud.”

Looks like a purge to me. And a last ditch effort by ICE Barbie to save her phony baloney job.

And yes, THIS is happening in America. Trump’s America.

Who will they target next? Think it’ll be immigrants???
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Old 12-30-2025, 09:47 AM   #33
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very trivial nit

The misspelled 'Quality Learing Center' sign is over the back door (service entrance)...the sign on the front of the building (public entrance) is spelled correctly

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Old 12-30-2025, 10:02 AM   #34
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The misspelled 'Quality Learing Center' sign is over the back door (service entrance)...the sign on the front of the building (public entrance) is spelled correctly

Spelling fraud???

Throw the full force of the DHS at ‘em!

Department of Education would have missed it.
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Old 12-30-2025, 01:17 PM   #35
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This could well have many facets. I am betting that there is a lot of voter fraud as well as the child care fraud and money laundering.

When they run out all the leads, aI am thinking that major political hopefuls for '26 and '28 will find themselves neck deep in the quick sand of scandal in Ohio and California.

It may be that Sen. Letterman is the only Democrat with a viable chance at a presidential run.
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Old 12-30-2025, 01:36 PM   #36
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I had posted a big-ass rant about people using certain terms here only to find that....it wasn't needed.

So I will "Edit" and just say a belated...

Thanks.

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Old 12-30-2025, 05:30 PM   #37
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So much to unpack with that post. But I refuse to repost the most racist parts of your tantrums...
Hmmm... you may want to think everything through before playing the race card.


It’s Not “Racist” to Notice Somali Fraud

The recent scandal reveals an uncomfortable truth: different cultures lead to different outcomes.


By Christopher F. Rufo
Nov 25 2025

Last week, my colleague Ryan Thorpe and I broke a story about widespread fraud committed by Somalis in Minnesota. Members of the state’s Somali community allegedly participated in complex schemes related to autism services, food programs, and housing, which prosecutors estimate have stolen billions of taxpayer dollars. Even worse, some of the cash has ended up in the hands of Al-Shabaab, a terrorist organization in Somalia.

The story quickly reached the White House. Within days, President Trump announced that he was revoking the Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for all Somali migrants in Minnesota.

Progressives have suggested that our reporting and the subsequent policy change were “racist.” While many of those indicted in these schemes are Somali, these critics argue, the federal government should not hold Minnesota’s Somali community corporately responsible for the actions of individuals.

This criticism is superficially appealing, but it isn’t persuasive on closer inspection.

First, a description of the facts should not be measured as “racist or not racist,” but rather as “true or not true.” And in this case, the truth is that numerous members of a relatively small community participated in a scheme that stole billions in funds. This is a legitimate consideration for American immigration policy, which is organized around nation of origin and, for more than 30 years, has favorably treated Somalis relative to other groups. It is more than fair to ask whether that policy has served the national interest. The fraud story suggests that the answer is “no.”

Second, the fact that Somalis are black is incidental. If Norwegian immigrants were perpetrating fraud at the same alleged scale and had the same employment and income statistics as Somalis, it would be perfectly reasonable to make the same criticism and enact the same policy response. It would not be “racist” against Norwegians to do so.

Further, Somalis have enormously high unemployment rates, and federal law enforcement have long considered Minneapolis’s Little Mogadishu neighborhood a hot spot for terrorism recruitment. We should condemn that behavior without regard to skin color.

The underlying question - which, until now, Americans have been loath to address directly - is that of different behaviors and outcomes between different groups. Americans tend to avoid this question, rely on euphemisms, and let these distinctions remain implied rather than spoken aloud. Yet it seems increasingly untenable to maintain this Anglo-American courtesy when the Left has spent decades insisting that we conceptualize our national life in terms of group identity.

The reality is that different groups have different cultural characteristics. The national culture of Somalia is different from the national culture of Norway. Somalis and Norwegians therefore tend to think differently, behave differently, and organize themselves differently, which leads to different group outcomes. Norwegians in Minnesota behave similarly to Norwegians in Norway; Somalis in Minnesota behave similarly to Somalis in Somalia. Many cultural patterns from Somalia - particularly clan networks, informal economies, and distrust of state institutions -travel with the diaspora and have shown up in Minnesota as well. In the absence of strong assimilation pressures, the fraud networks aren’t so surprising; they reflect the extension of Somali institutional norms into a new environment with weak enforcement and poorly designed incentives.

The beauty of America is that we had a system that thoughtfully balanced individual and group considerations. We recognized that all men, whatever their background, have a natural right to life, liberty, property, and equal treatment under the law. We also recognized that group averages can be a basis for judgment - especially in immigration, where they can help determine which potential immigrant groups are most suitable and advantageous for America.

These principles are in tension but not in contradiction. As a sociological matter, a policy of equal rights for all individuals will result in unequal outcomes among groups. This is not a sign of injustice per se; it is an inevitability. No two groups are the same, and therefore, no two groups will have the same outcomes in a system of individual liberty and equality.

The firestorm around the Somali fraud story was so intense precisely because it forced this question into the spotlight. For decades, America has given Somali immigrants special privileges through TPS. We have expected Somalis to play by the rules, contribute to the country, and assimilate into the culture. Some individuals have certainly done so, but as the fraud story suggests, many others have not. A rational government would amend its policies accordingly.

We can see the same process playing out in other parts of the world. In the United Kingdom, mass immigration from incompatible cultures is creating a civilizational crisis. Rather than replicate the policies of our sister country, we should accept reality and adopt a more thoughtful policy, which recognizes cultural norms as a reasonable measure of capacity to assimilate and to contribute.

The president should stand firm. Little Mogadishu in Minneapolis has a real problem, and it is about time that our government began facing it.

https://www.city-journal.org/article...gration-debate
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Old 12-30-2025, 05:34 PM   #38
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I'm sure you forgot to link that lengthy rebuttal post, lusty.

Please let us know where this came from.
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No, I furnished a link. Try to do better.

Maybe you could address Chris Rufo's arguments with substance. I would be impressed, and so would the OP.


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As you always say...WHAT IS YOUR SOURCE??
You're in deflection mode as always!!
So what is your counterpoint to these FACTS???
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Old 12-30-2025, 08:07 PM   #40
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LOL! Gotta love that editing window.

Nice formatting too!

No wonder you didn't want to promote the source. RWW media published by a "think tank."

The article tries to somehow normalize Trump's knee jerk reaction to a story that, had it happened in a red state, wouldn't appear on your radar.

There is no rationalizing hateful speech and hateful actions, especially when it's Trump at the center of the knee jerk.

Yes it is hateful and racist and fascist.

Try and do better.

thanks, LL!
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Old 12-30-2025, 10:29 PM   #41
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Somali fraudsters have been stealing from taxpayers for years and it's clear that the entire Somali community is in on it....

Send all the <<edited because I'm not reposting it>> back to somaliland...
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So much to unpack with that post. But I refuse to repost the most racist parts of your tantrums.

Let's just explore the highlighted portion:

SHOW US the proof that the "entire Somali community is in on it."

Just show it. Now.
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Hmmm... you may want to think everything through before playing the race card....

You have again misrepresented a post of mine and seemingly ignored the context.

I did NOT dispute that there were legitimate charges of fraud against members of this community. I called attention to specific remarks that were inaccurate, and to some language used by the poster that could be considered racist by many.

You may want to....think it through yourself the next time, lest someone misinterpret your criticism of my post as...defense of the language used by the member I called out. I'm sure you do not intend that.

There are thousands of Somalis living legally in Minnesota, contributing to their communities and economies, and NOT committing crimes. But many like the Trump Admin and the OP are using this scandal to demonize them all. It is shameful, racist, and embarrassing. We are all worse because of this behavior. And our tolerance and acceptance of it.

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Old 12-30-2025, 10:49 PM   #42
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Hmmm... you may want to think everything through before playing the race card.


It’s Not “Racist” to Notice Somali Fraud

The recent scandal reveals an uncomfortable truth: different cultures lead to different outcomes.


By Christopher F. Rufo
Nov 25 2025

Trump and the Trump administration has played the race card when they blamed an entire community for the problem rather than individual members of said community.

And the Author of the racist opinion piece you referenced has written a book.

America's Cultural Revolution: How the Radical Left Conquered Everything

The description on the Amazon page reads.

Failing to act soon, Rufo warns, could allow the radical left to achieve their ultimate objective: replacing constitutional equality with a race-based redistribution system overseen by bureaucratic ‘diversity and inclusion’ officials. Most Americans don’t want this, but most Americans are no longer in control of our institutions. If the mainstream media’s depiction of a failing dystopia in need of a fresh start never sounded right to you, this expose and call to arms is the book you’ve been looking for.

Sounds fairly biased to me. And more than a little bit racist as well.
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Old 12-30-2025, 11:40 PM   #43
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Trump and the Trump administration has played the race card when they blamed an entire community for the problem rather than individual members of said community.

And the Author of the racist opinion piece you referenced has written a book.

America's Cultural Revolution: How the Radical Left Conquered Everything

The description on the Amazon page reads.

Failing to act soon, Rufo warns, could allow the radical left to achieve their ultimate objective: replacing constitutional equality with a race-based redistribution system overseen by bureaucratic ‘diversity and inclusion’ officials. Most Americans don’t want this, but most Americans are no longer in control of our institutions. If the mainstream media’s depiction of a failing dystopia in need of a fresh start never sounded right to you, this expose and call to arms is the book you’ve been looking for.

Sounds fairly biased to me. And more than a little bit racist as well.



stop playing the race card. what difference does it make what race these fraudsters are? Yes?


fraud is fraud no matter what, yes?
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Old 12-30-2025, 11:45 PM   #44
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i think it's funny how the feds took their cue from a YouTuber. is this the new standard in federal due diligence..

https://abc13.com/post/surge-federal...ters/18333684/

would there be the same enthusiam from the feds if a left-leaning YouTuber revealed similar fraud in a red state..

race is relevant b/c right wing media is selling this as Somali fraud, as though "Somali fraud" is a thing. if the perps happened to be Jewish, would they be calling this "Jewish fraud?" uh, no..
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I have been away from all this for a few weeks.

I had forgotten how insubstantial the responses from the left can be,
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