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Old 12-26-2025, 06:01 PM   #1
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Default China Takes a Page from America, Sanctions US Defense Firms and Principals Over Arms Sales to Taiwan

China thought to themselves, if America can do it, why can't we..

but, any U.S. defense firm with business interests in China has bigger problems than having their accounts seized by the Politburo Standing Committee; they're also liable for treason. any defense firm that bitches about the sanctions will draw unwanted scrutiny. so i don't think China's move carries too much pop..

the U.S. sanctions on Russian oil and oligarchs seem to have a bit more punch, although brutalizing India over its oil purchases is a bridge too far in my book. there should have been a better way to handle the matter that involves diplomacy. India is a natural U.S. ally and a key counterweight to China in Asia.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/...-weapons-sales

this is actually part of a larger trend. China is attempting to redefine the U.S. led western world order. they are attempting to end the era of the Pax Americana. how are they doing this?

Financial De-dollarization

China is actively working to reduce the global dominance of the U.S. dollar, which it views as a tool for Western sanctions and "weaponized" financial leverage.

Alternative Payment Systems: China is developing the BRICS Bridge, a blockchain-based payment system intended as an alternative to the Western-led SWIFT network.

Digital Yuan (e-CNY): Beijing has significantly expanded its Central Bank Digital Currency, facilitating over $7.3 trillion in transactions by 2025 to bypass dollar-based trade.

Oil and Commodity Settlements: By 2025, roughly one-fifth of global oil trade is settled in non-dollar currencies, with China completing its first cross-border oil payments in digital yuan.

Technological and Industrial "Self-Reliance"
Through initiatives like Made in China 2025, Beijing seeks to "kick the U.S. 100% out of its supply chains" and achieve dominance in critical sectors.

Critical Mineral Monopolies: China controls approximately 90% of the global supply for rare earth metals and magnets, which it has used as a chokepoint against Western defense and electronics industries.

Advanced Semiconductors: Despite U.S. sanctions, Chinese companies have made rapid gains in indigenous chip manufacturing, including a "Manhattan Project-style" effort to create advanced AI chips without Western equipment.

Leading Emerging Tech: By late 2025, China is seen as a near-peer or leader in AI (with models like DeepSeek), quantum communication, and biotechnology.

Diplomatic and Strategic Alliances
China is positioning itself as a "stabilizing anchor" for the Global South, offering an alternative to what it describes as Western interventionism.

BRICS Expansion: China has led the expansion of the BRICS alliance (now 10 members) to create a geopolitical counterweight to the G7.

The "Axis of Resistance": Beijing is strengthening ties with Russia, Iran, and North Korea, sharing defense technologies and building a shared industrial base resilient to Western sanctions.

"Wedging" Strategy: China uses economic partnerships in Europe and the Middle East to exploit rifts between the U.S. and its partners, encouraging nations toward "strategic autonomy" from Washington.

Military Modernization
The People's Liberation Army (PLA) is designed to deter U.S. intervention and secure regional hegemony in the Indo-Pacific.

Naval Superiority: China now possesses the world's largest navy by ship count and in late 2025 operationalized its third aircraft carrier, the Fujian, featuring advanced electromagnetic catapults.

Anti-Access/Area Denial (A2/AD): China has stockpiled thousands of precision missiles and developed hypersonic weapons that exceed current Western capabilities, specifically designed to push U.S. forces away from its shores.

Military-Civil Fusion: Reforms implemented in 2024 and 2025 have intensified the integration of private-sector technology into defense sectors, particularly in AI-driven robotics and cyber warfare.

it's time for the U.S. to wake up and smell the coffee. China is nipping at our heels, and at this rate, it won't be long before..
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Old 12-26-2025, 09:13 PM   #2
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i realized after i posted this thread that i omitted a question for discussion. that question would be, what practical steps should we be taking right now to avoid ending up 2nd best to China in just a few short years? and are Trump's present policies an effective counter to China, given that he's stated explicitly that countering China is a key priority for the United States?
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This has been something they've wanted for awhile.

And the way orange dumb is doing the tariff thing, he is helping China along with these plans.
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I believe we made a mistake with the sanctions. The dollar is the world's preeminent reserve currency, and that provides lots of advantages to the USA. Now that China, Russia, and Iran know their dollars may be impounded or confiscated and they may lose access to the SWIFT system, they're moving away from the dollar and investments in U.S. Treasury securities. I imagine certain other developing countries like Brazil and South Africa are too.

Pxmcc, as to your second post, I don't see how the USA avoids being second best. By some measures it already is. China has 4X the population of the USA and its people are just as smart and hard working as Americans. We had an advantage because we practiced free market economics, but the Chinese, in the private sector at least, have moved in that direction too. Our other advantage is rule of law. But those lawyers (I think you're one?) can be a dual edged sword. The USA is ruled by lawyers and China by engineers. In the long term I expect the engineers come out on top.
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In the long term I expect the engineers come out on top.
No.. in the end, unless China decides to discipline their lawyers via execution, the lawyers are going to win...

That's why we will need a dictator here as well at some point. We are in a judicial tyranny and they need to be weeded out.

Its coming.

We had hoped Trump was the guy to do it... but he isn't.

We need Hitler 3.0 since Hitler 2.0 isn't getting anybody arrested let alone onto the cattle cars...
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No.. in the end, unless China decides to discipline their lawyers via execution, the lawyers are going to win...

That's why we will need a dictator here as well at some point. We are in a judicial tyranny and they need to be weeded out.

Its coming.

We had hoped Trump was the guy to do it... but he isn't.

We need Hitler 3.0 since Hitler 2.0 isn't getting anybody arrested let alone onto the cattle cars...
rotflmao!
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More China military exercises around Taiwan, in response to USA's latest arms sales to Taiwan.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c87l7xjp235o

No need to worry. China does this half a dozen times a year every time they don't approve of some dealings between the USA and Taiwan.

They even did it after Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan in August 2022.
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well, gee, such optimism..

i think we can beat China, but we sure as hell need a plan to pull it off..

as to lawyers vs. engingeers, they both have a part to play, imo..

yes, i am one of those liars (sp?) but i am not practicing at the moment, but running a small biz. does that make the world a better place..

i have 2 technical degrees so am as much a scientist as a liar oops i meant lawyer..
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Pxmcc, as to your second post, I don't see how the USA avoids being second best. By some measures it already is. China has 4X the population of the USA and its people are just as smart and hard working as Americans. We had an advantage because we practiced free market economics, but the Chinese, in the private sector at least, have moved in that direction too. Our other advantage is rule of law. But those lawyers (I think you're one?) can be a dual edged sword. The USA is ruled by lawyers and China by engineers. In the long term I expect the engineers come out on top.
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No.. in the end, unless China decides to discipline their lawyers via execution, the lawyers are going to win...

That's why we will need a dictator here as well at some point. We are in a judicial tyranny and they need to be weeded out.

Its coming.

We had hoped Trump was the guy to do it... but he isn't.

We need Hitler 3.0 since Hitler 2.0 isn't getting anybody arrested let alone onto the cattle cars...
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rotflmao!
Dude...he's fucking serious.

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No need to worry. China does this half a dozen times a year every time they don't approve of some dealings between the USA and Taiwan.
Just after Typhoon season and when the tide is lowest are the danger periods.
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wouldn't be better to run ships in high tide?
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wouldn't be better to run ships in high tide?
To run landing craft ashore, you will want LOW tide... The Taiwanese have boat obstacles under the surf on beaches where an assault is likely. Hence the ChiComs building a new class of landing craft..

China Suddenly Building Fleet Of Special Barges Suitable For Taiwan Landings

The Chinese are certainly preparing for a very specific Amphibious assault scenario.

War is coming even if the leftards here in the US can't see that.

Thats what the stuff going on in the Caribbean is about... strategic denial.

But again, only leftards believe what the Propaganda press is telling them.
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To run landing craft ashore, you will want LOW tide... The Taiwanese have boat obstacles under the surf on beaches where an assault is likely. Hence the ChiComs building a new class of landing craft..

China Suddenly Building Fleet Of Special Barges Suitable For Taiwan Landings

The Chinese are certainly preparing for a very specific Amphibious assault scenario.

War is coming even if the leftards here in the US can't see that.

Thats what the stuff going on in the Caribbean is about... strategic denial.

But again, only leftards believe what the Propaganda press is telling them.
what is the Caribbean China connection in your opinion? i think the Caribbean is a distraction from Taiwan, the latest iteration of Stephen Miller's war on immigrants.

i agree China is preparing to invade. couple of things we should do.
1. explicitly revoke the One China policy. this isn't a time for strategic ambiguity.
2. conduct training exercises in the Taiwan Strait with Taiwan, Japan, Australia, the Phillipines, and South Korea. give China a preview of how this will unfold.
3. conduct freedom of navigation ops in the Taiwan Strait with a pair of carrier groups.
4. get the Ford the hell out of the Caribbean. whatever Trump is trying to do there-which i'm not sure even he knows-can be accomplished with the Coast Guard. the Ford should be deployed to Asia, making our presence patent to the Chinese.

China needs a big eff you, or they're going to get completely the wrong idea. they regularly practice their invasion operations, which to me is completely unacceptable.
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