Jets Owner Buries Justin Fields

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Originally Posted by bambino

Mayfield, Darnould, Pickett, Smith all played for several teams in their careers. You have to be in the right place. Besides, Fields chose to leave. The Steelers offered him a contract to return.

His coaches must have seen something!
(His college game doesn't translate to the NFL!)
He's got no touch; he's no longer throwing to wide-open receivers; he can't put the ball in tight spaces; he panics in the red zone!
There's gotta be a reason the 11th pick in the 2021 draft has played for 3 teams in his first 5 years ... and is now sitting the bench for an 0-7 team!

[bambino]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

His coaches must have seen something!
(His college game doesn't translate to the NFL!)
He's got no touch; he's no longer throwing to wide-open receivers; he can't put the ball in tight spaces; he panics in the red zone!
There's gotta be a reason the 11th pick in the 2021 draft has played for 3 teams in his first 5 years ... and is now sitting the bench for an 0-7 team!

You’re just throwing shit against the wall hoping it will stick Pancho. He’s got 30 million guaranteed coming to him at 27yrs old. If he’s such a loser, what’s that make you?

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Originally Posted by bambino

You’re just throwing shit against the wall hoping it will stick Pancho. He’s got 30 million guaranteed coming to him at 27yrs old. If he’s such a loser, what’s that make you?

He hit the 1st round jackpot ($$$) no doubt!
5 years on ... his QB skill set (or lack thereof) has been exposed!
No team will ever take that 30 mil contract off of the Jets hands!
(That's what trust-fund baby Woody is complaining about ...pissin' away 30 mil on a QB who's buried on the bench!)
And may never see the field again!
At 30 mil ... no team is ever gunna take a chance on him!
(Especially if an astute GM can find a minimum-wage QB like Brock Purdy who can take a team to the Super Bowl!)
Don't be a bit surprised if Justin Fields goes down in the annals of NFL history ... as the highest-paid practice squad player of all time!

[bambino]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

He hit the 1st round jackpot ($$$) no doubt!
5 years on ... his QB skill set (or lack thereof) has been exposed!
No team will ever take that 30 mil contract off of the Jets hands!
(That's what trust-fund baby Woody is complaining about ...pissin' away 30 mil on a QB who's buried on the bench!)
And may never see the field again!
At 30 mil ... no team is ever gunna take a chance on him!
(Especially if an astute GM can find a minimum-wage QB like Brock Purdy who can take a team to the Super Bowl!)
Don't be a bit surprised if Justin Fields goes down in the annals of NFL history ... as the highest-paid practice squad player of all time!

Wrong again. His draft status had nothing to do with his present contract. It was what the Jets thought he was worth now. The rest of your post is just opinion and twaddle.

[HDGristle]

We've seen enough of Fields to know he's got a bright future as a backup, riding the pine.

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Originally Posted by bambino

Wrong again. His draft status had nothing to do with his present contract. It was what the Jets thought he was worth now. The rest of your post is just opinion and twaddle.

His draft position, most certainly, had a lot (everything) to do with his contract!
(He had an abysmal 6-25 record as a starting QB with the Bears!)
How does a QB prone to fumbles and interceptions with a record of 6-25 get a guaranteed 30 million $$$ contract?
It had, everything, to do with his draft position!
If he was drafted in the 3rd round and had a record of 6-25 ... there's NWIH some GM is gunna give him $30 mil guaranteed!
(That ... is what Woody is opining about!)
In the grand scheme of things ... he ain't no better than over- hyped Shadeur Sanders!

[bambino]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

His draft position, most certainly, had a lot (everything) to do with his contract!
(He had an abysmal 6-25 record as a starting QB with the Bears!)
How does a QB prone to fumbles and interceptions with a record of 6-25 get a guaranteed 30 million $$$ contract?
It had, everything, to do with his draft position!
If he was drafted in the 3rd round and had a record of 6-25 ... there's NWIH some GM is gunna give him $30 mil guaranteed!
(That ... is what Woody is opining about!)
In the grand scheme of things ... he ain't no better than over- hyped Shadeur Sanders!

No, he’s been in the league long enough that his play dictated his worth. His draft position is in the rear view mirror. Besides, his base salary is pretty low. Not befitting the 7th player taken in the first round. Especially a QB. If Johnson payed him based on where he was drafted he’s dummer than I thought.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

His draft position, most certainly, had a lot (everything) to do with his contract!
(He had an abysmal 6-25 record as a starting QB with the Bears!)
How does a QB prone to fumbles and interceptions with a record of 6-25 get a guaranteed 30 million $$$ contract?
It had, everything, to do with his draft position!
If he was drafted in the 3rd round and had a record of 6-25 ... there's NWIH some GM is gunna give him $30 mil guaranteed!
(That ... is what Woody is opining about!)
In the grand scheme of things ... he ain't no better than over- hyped Shadeur Sanders!

Your right. Draft position does matter. We’ve all seen first rounders get waaayyy too many looks. Everyone thinks they can bring that college star back to life.
But as far as Woody Johnson, he forced out his head coach and his QB last year, now he’s losing with a new head coach and QB this year.
He’ll do it again and again because he can.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Your right. Draft position does matter. We’ve all seen first rounders get waaayyy too many looks. Everyone thinks they can bring that college star back to life.
But as far as Woody Johnson, he forced out his head coach and his QB last year, now he’s losing with a new head coach and QB this year.
He’ll do it again and again because he can.

Justin Fields isn’t getting paid 1st round QB money. Far from it. He showed improvement with the Steelers. He’s being paid for what he is worth now. He’s an elite athlete. Not the best passer. But neither was Lamar Jackson. The Ravens were patient, tailored the offense to his skills, and he improved as a passer and QB drastically. Fields was never in a similar situation. That’s why he’s making 15 million a year and Jackson is being paid 50 mill a year. And, Jackson was drafted lower than Fields.

So, after 5 or so years in the NFL, you’re paid on your current production, not your draft status. Brock Purdy was the last player drafted, Mr Irrelevant. He’s making 53 million a year. Is he being paid according to his draft status?

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Originally Posted by HDGristle

We've seen enough of Fields to know he's got a bright future as a backup, riding the pine.

His 6-25 record as a starting QB for the Bears speaks volumes!
(He's not an NFL caliber QB!)
Like I said, if he was a 3rd round draft pick out of Eastern Michigan with a 6-25 record .... there's NWIH he gets $30 mil guaranteed!
He's the beneficiary of fortuitous circumstance!

[bambino]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

His 6-25 record as a starting QB for the Bears speaks volumes!
(He's not an NFL caliber QB!)
Like I said, if he was a 3rd round draft pick out of Eastern Michigan with a 6-25 record .... there's NWIH he gets $30 mil guaranteed!
He's the beneficiary of fortuitous circumstance!

Wrong again. He’s getting paid substantially less than what a first round QB gets for a fifth year option.

“The fifth-year option for a first-round draft choice is typically based on the player's position and can vary significantly, but it generally allows teams to extend the player's contract for an additional year at a predetermined salary. The exact amount is determined by the average salary of the top players at that position, which can be substantial, often exceeding $20 million for high-profile positions like quarterback.”

You have to up your game. Just like Justin Fields

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

His 6-25 record as a starting QB for the Bears speaks volumes!
(He's not an NFL caliber QB!)
Like I said, if he was a 3rd round draft pick out of Eastern Michigan with a 6-25 record .... there's NWIH he gets $30 mil guaranteed!
He's the beneficiary of fortuitous circumstance!

Pretty much

[victoryformation]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Your right. Draft position does matter. We’ve all seen first rounders get waaayyy too many looks. Everyone thinks they can bring that college star back to life.
But as far as Woody Johnson, he forced out his head coach and his QB last year, now he’s losing with a new head coach and QB this year.
He’ll do it again and again because he can.

Draft position , most definitely, affects performance expectations and subsequent pay scale!
Brock Purdy took his team to the Super Bowl and is better than Justin Fields!
(Exponentially better!)
But, Brock Purdy was taken last in the 2022 draft ... and his pay scale was reflective of that!
Mr. Irrelevant was cursed by being drafted in the 7th round #267 overall!
Consequently he signed a minimum-wage contract!
On the other hand: 1st round, 11th overall Justin Fields got $30 million guaranteed!
Go figure!
(Some people live a charmed life ... and are the beneficiary of fortuitous circumstance!)

[bambino]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

Draft position , most definitely, affects performance expectations and subsequent pay scale!
Brock Purdy took his team to the Super Bowl and is better than Justin Fields!
(Exponentially better!)
But, Brock Purdy was taken last in the 2022 draft ... and his pay scale was reflective of that!
Mr. Irrelevant was cursed by being drafted in the 7th round #267 overall!
Consequently he signed a minimum-wage contract!
On the other hand: 1st round, 11th overall Justin Fields got $30 million guaranteed!
Go figure!
(Some people live a charmed life ... and are the beneficiary of fortuitous circumstance!)

I just posted Purdy is making 53 million per year. 5x in guaranteed money than the first rounder Fields. Far more than Fields. Do you actually think before you post?

“Brock Purdy signed a five-year contract extension with the San Francisco 49ers worth $265 million, which includes $181 million guaranteed. This deal, finalized in May 2025, makes him one of the highest-paid quarterbacks in the NFL.”

Sheesh, just take a timeout and regroup. This destroys your whole narrative.

Fields is making between what a high end backup and a low end starter makes. His first round status means nothing.

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Originally Posted by bambino

No, he’s been in the league long enough that his play dictated his worth. His draft position is in the rear view mirror. Besides, his base salary is pretty low. Not befitting the 7th player taken in the first round. Especially a QB. If Johnson payed him based on where he was drafted he’s dummer than I thought.

How can you say that a QB who had a record of 6-25 ..."his play dictated his worth"?
Incorrect!
His draft position "dictated his worth"!