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There is a fuck ton of difference. Especially in the construction of the bullet itself.
You are not a ballistics expert, plain and simple. Unless you want to post evidence that you are here, which I am not asking you to do, certainly. But I'm pretty certain it is safe to say that you are not. No court would recognize you as such, no one asks you to comment officially on autopsy reports.
The sad thing is that there WILL be a report that comes out from a true ballistics expert at some point. And it will confirm the simplest answer to this nonsense: one bullet fired by this fucked up kid from the gun that they retrieved near the site. End.
But the conspiracy theory folks still won't believe it. Again, sad.
(the Flat Earth folks are taking names, I'm telling ya)
No there isn't and it shows your ignorance. No I'm not a ballistics expert but there are many that are and have simulated the alleged shot.
Basically should have blown the left side of his neck off.
The RED highlight says it all.
Well, that along with continued accusations of my "ignorance" and and statements from others like "You apparently have little respect for yourself by believing a government narrative without question...."
And, of course, posts calling people who refute these arguments "stupid fucks." Not to their face, of course. Wouldn't want to have to eat a few points or anything.
All of this is Classic Conspiracy Theory technique: insult, claim others are deluded for "believing the establishment" and deny, deny, deny.
(George Orwell called. He wants to know the sum of 2+2)
Lots of people have exposure to weapons but not lots of people have exposure to gunshot trauma outcomes. It was a single shot fired by the kid on the roof. Everything else just comes down to joos joos joos... It gets ridiculous.
Well, that along with continued accusations of my "ignorance" and and statements from others like "You apparently have little respect for yourself by believing a government narrative without question...."
And, of course, posts calling people who refute these arguments "stupid fucks." Not to their face, of course. Wouldn't want to have to eat a few points or anything.
All of this is Classic Conspiracy Theory technique: insult, claim others are deluded for "believing the establishment" and deny, deny, deny.
(George Orwell called. He wants to know the sum of 2+2)
These people just keep looking for anything that substantiates whatever they want to believe. You should just go peek in the tylenol thread. So many non-medical professionals that spent a lot of time on the interwebs. They found all the stuff the doctors and scientists missed.
We're in a post truth timeline. We'll just have to wait it out or take their phones away.
These people just keep looking for anything that substantiates whatever they want to believe. You should just go peek in the tylenol thread. So many non-medical professionals that spent a lot of time on the interwebs. They found all the stuff the doctors and scientists missed.
We're in a post truth timeline. We'll just have to wait it out or take their phones away.
Maybe it's not a question of what they missed but rather what they refuse to disclose.
Yes there are holes in the narrative and inconsistencies, but I remain agnostic on the Patsy issue for the Kirk shooting. Unless there is some evidence of others involved, I am slowly coming down on the side of lone shooter with mental issues . . . .or something similar.
By comparison, both bad actors in the failed attempts to assassinate President Trump are more likely, in my view to have had some outsider influence , support or even assistance. The parallels with the assignation of JFK, RFK and MLK ate too close for me to rule out the patsy scenario for those killings or the atempts on President Trump. .I just don't quite see it (yet) for the Charlie Kirk assasination.
Caught on Camera: New Video Blows Up Official Account of Kirk Shooting | Redacted
Here goes a theory explaining that Charlie Kirk was shot from his left side. But if the velocity of the round was traveling at 500ft per second it's very possible that someone who was around the supposed shooter could have possibly seen the round traveling in air depending on the angle when they were looking at Kirk from his left side.
Former Assistant Treasury Secretary under Reagan, Paul Craig Roberts thinks the shooter was in the front row and used a palm pistol. You decide. What we do know is that the official story on Charlie Kirk's assassination doesn't add up.
"Can War Be Evaded?
Paul Craig Roberts
Charlie Kirk’s wife says she is going to continue Charlie’s work. I hope she can. The trouble is that within a few days of Charlie’s death, Israel had taken over Charlie’s organization. At the 12:22 mark Nima shows a video of Charlie’s successors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmD2JW-fLc4
Israel is the most likely candidate to be responsible for Kirk’s assassination. Kirk was leading the younger American generation away from the typical American response that everything Israel does is justified.
Kirk was being funded by the Jews, but when they lost control of him, they cancelled their funding: “Charlie Kirk leaked text confirms he was livid about bullying Jewish donors: I am leaving pro-Israel cause.” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...el-donors.html Tucker Carlson reports that Kirk’s turn away from being an apologist for Israel resulted from Kirk’s realization that the United States was being used to fight wars on behalf of Israel. With Kirk’s assassination, Israel has now again taken control of Turning Point.
The man in brown shown in this video: https://x.com/valvenisent/status/196...645012036?s=61 is the most obvious assassin of Kirk. The original video attributed Kirk’s death to a low caliber palm pistol. A subsequent interpretation concluded that the man in brown was detonating an Israeli microphone on Charlie’s shirt, and that Charlie was killed with the technology that Israel used to wipe out the leadership of Hezbollah, an Arab militia in the way of Israel’s expansion into south Lebanon.
What is clear is that as the man in brown jumped over the railing and involved himself with Kirk’s corpse, there were no police securing the crime scene. A subsequent video shows the man in brown overseeing Kirk’s corpse being placed in a civilian vehicle and carried off. Who is the man in brown? Why is the FBI uninterested?
How is it possible that no police security was imposed on a crime scene? No police control over the corpse of the murdered victim? Charlie’s corpse carried off in a private vehicle? Who has this power over police protocol other than Israel, the CIA, and the FBI?
The whore American media is completely silent. The video of the man in brown is said by “fact checkers,” who are whores who lie for money–Yahoo, Google, and the rest of the misinformers–is said to never have existed. If the URL was not in an article on my website, I would not have been able to find it. That should tell you a lot.
My question is: When, if ever, will real Americans, not the liberal-left filth, wake up to their danger and realize that they also, along with Russia, Iran, and China are destined for the trash bin of history? Russia, Iran, China are our allies, not our enemies. Our enemies are in Washington and Israel.
Americans, indeed all Western peoples and those who wish to remain independent, have very little time left to fight for the survival of their existence as sovereign ethnicities. Thanks to Blumrosen at the EEOC, white heterosexual American males have been without equal protection of the law for sixty years.
In my interaction with Americans, you can discuss their college’s football chances, their golf scores, the expense of their wives’ remodeling of their kitchens and bathrooms, their knee and hip operations, but you cannot get one word out of them about our disastrous foreign policy other that “all those enemies out there that Trump is dealing with.”
Americans are not a people that can easily survive. They haven’t the education, the intelligence, the interest to know. They let CNN and “Christian Zionist” preachers tell them. Having lived a protected life as a hegemon unaccountable to law or fact, they are unaware of their vulnerability.
Putin also, and Iran, and China, and India, and Venezuela are unaware of their vulnerability They seem to lack the ability to understand American foreign policy, the principle mission of which is stated by the Wolfowitz Doctrine that the principal goal of American foreign policy is to prevent the rise of any country that can constraint American hegemony.
This American claim remains un-repudiated by the Trump regime and is a formula for war that is close to unfolding."
We can all speculate on what actually happened and how, but none of us really know.
When they put this guy on trial we will see the autopsy report on the body and the forensic evidence of the bullet.
Someone at the BATFE or FBI will have shot the rife3l and will tell us just how accurate it is at 150 yards.
The ammo used will be analyzed. I'd like to see the head stamp on each case for example.
At this point, we all are just guessing at what rlly happened.
As I said before; I'm agnostic but leaning toward the shooter acting alone.
What we do know is that the official narrative doesn't add up. Apparently there was no autopsy performed on Kirk and that's what many have already reported. It seems like the conservative Republicans who believe the official fairytale are being duped by the fake news media, again.
NO BULLET, NO ANSWERS – CHARLIE KIRK AUTOPSY UNDER FIRE IN UTAH
"Officials in Utah have yet to publicly confirm whether the bullet that fatally struck Charlie Kirk was recovered, a critical piece of evidence in the ongoing assassination trial. The autopsy, carried out under Utah’s Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Deirdre Amaro, is central to the case but remains shrouded in secrecy, fueling questions about transparency and accountability. FBI Director Kash Patel stated in an interview on Fox News’s Fox & Friends, “I can report today that the DNA hits from the towel that was wrapped around the firearm and the DNA on the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect in custody,” underscoring the importance of DNA evidence linked to the case while leaving key forensic details, including bullet recovery, undisclosed. At no point has it been officially confirmed that DNA was found directly on the gun itself.
Dr. Deirdre Amaro, Utah’s Chief Medical Examiner and a key figure on Governor Spencer Cox’s Fentanyl Task Force, is under intense scrutiny as she manages the autopsy process in the trial of Tyler Robinson, accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk in an event that captured worldwide attention. Despite her pivotal role, no official public release has been made of the autopsy report or confirmation that the fatal bullet was recovered and matched to the firearm involved."
....Apparently there was no autopsy performed on Kirk and that's what many have already reported. It seems like the conservative Republicans who believe the official fairytale are being duped by the fake news media, again.
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Originally Posted by CPT Savajo
...The autopsy, carried out under Utah’s Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Deirdre Amaro, is central to the case but remains shrouded in secrecy, fueling questions about transparency and accountability.
Wait! You said there was no autopsy. And now there WAS?
And now, the Conspiracy Theorists who said there wasn't are trying to save face saying it "remains shrouded in secrecy."
Yeah. Sure. Or maybe they are just being super careful, making sure they get it right? Just in case some fucking nut jobs make up a bunch of shit about how they do their jobs? Well, it's just a thought. Or maybe another Conspiracy!
Wait! You said there was no autopsy. And now there WAS?
And now, the Conspiracy Theorists who said there wasn't are trying to save face saying it "remains shrouded in secrecy."
Yeah. Sure. Or maybe they are just being super careful, making sure they get it right? Just in case some fucking nut jobs make up a bunch of shit about how they do their jobs? Well, it's just a thought. Or maybe another Conspiracy!
oh and dear.
Maggies trying to cover for maggies that eat their own.
Let the hornets nest of naysayers be kicked.
I could care less. Hell, who is to say a 55 grain pellet from a sabot round didn't disintegrate upon impact leaving nothing to be found?
Wait! You said there was no autopsy. And now there WAS?
And now, the Conspiracy Theorists who said there wasn't are trying to save face saying it "remains shrouded in secrecy."
Yeah. Sure. Or maybe they are just being super careful, making sure they get it right? Just in case some fucking nut jobs make up a bunch of shit about how they do their jobs? Well, it's just a thought. Or maybe another Conspiracy!
I didn't write that. The story surrounding Tyler Robinson and Charlie Kirk doesn't add up and we obviously don't have all the information nor do I think we will be told the truth on what happened but we will see how this turns out. Personally I think it's going to be bad for Tyler.
