The Hammer drops again on another AMP.

[ntxguy]

Originally Posted by TinMan

I’ve searched before when I didn’t have PA and not picked up ROS in the results.

That’s the opposite of my experience

[TinMan]

I don’t know why our experiences would be different, but I just tried on a couple of search terms on reviews that had some names in the ROS that weren’t elsewhere in the thread and came up empty.

It’s not the main point of this thread, so I won’t belabor the point…even if I’m right that isn’t the end-all, be-all of secrecy and I won’t pretend it’s a magic bullet.

[Mental AtrraXXXion]

There is NO use to try and advise others to move differently when it comes to reviewing encounters. All you get push back and BS excuses why they should be able to continue without caution. I have come to the consensus that they don't give a damn, they only think about themselves and that they feel when one shop closes another will open. Not caring about the damage that is done or people that are affected. Truly selfishness and a disregard. Narcissistic Bullshit and self exaltation.

[TruthSayer]

Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

There is NO use to try and advise others to move differently when it comes to reviewing encounters. All you get push back and BS excuses why they should be able to continue without caution. I have come to the consensus that they don't give a damn, they only think about themselves and that they feel when one shop closes another will open. Not caring about the damage that is done.

Humans...in a nutshell

[TinMan]

Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

There is NO use to try and advise others to move differently when it comes to reviewing encounters. All you get push back and BS excuses why they should be able to continue without caution. I have come to the consensus that they don't give a damn, they only think about themselves and that they feel when one shop closes another will open. Not caring about the damage that is done or people that are affected. Truly selfishness and a disregard. Narcissistic Bullshit and self exaltation.

There is a thread on the main page devoted to this topic:

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...post1063894684

Rather than rail against those who can’t get their PA credit from overseas visits, provide your perspective in that forum and maybe ownership will see it and respond. Biomed, who is no mere mod, at least spoke up and explained where the decisions are made regarding what is considered sufficient for a credit-worthy review.

If those rules were ever changed for studios and AMPs, you’d get a lot of guys applying peer pressure to those who don’t fall in line since the one legitimate excuse for full disclosure would be taken away.

I am not saying ownership is likely to create a different standard for AMP reviews, but miracles do happen on occasion so I encourage everyone who wants to see change speak up in that thread.

[btbb]

Originally Posted by cosoj

I'm seeing fewer graphic reviews, except for some of the Plano Amps. Nevertheless, Lewisville shut down at least one spa which had no reviews. It was a shame since it had attractive good masseuses. Wish some of these reviewers would wise up.

Wait....You say that that one in Lewisville "had no reviews" then say you "Wish some of these reviewers would wise up".......Ummmm....So which is it?

It's like the guy in this thread who says, "I'm not saying......" and then over and over again makes a case for what he's "not saying..."
:mf_laughboun ce2:

[Mental AtrraXXXion]

Originally Posted by TinMan

There is a thread on the main page devoted to this topic:

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...post1063894684

Rather than rail against those who can’t get their PA credit from overseas visits, provide your perspective in that forum and maybe ownership will see it and respond. Biomed, who is no mere mod, at least spoke up and explained where the decisions are made regarding what is considered sufficient for a credit-worthy review.

If those rules were ever changed for studios and AMPs, you’d get a lot of guys applying peer pressure to those who don’t fall in line since the one legitimate excuse for full disclosure would be taken away.

I am not saying ownership is likely to create a different standard for AMP reviews, but miracles do happen on occasion so I encourage everyone who wants to see change speak up in that thread.

In all honesty you can go to the beginning of my encounter review history and I have literally pages of reviews from Dallas area providers/AMPs/SubAmps/etc consistently but after laws changed and more crackdowns/busts/raids and closures materialized in the area I decided to change my format. I currently still visit DFW area Providers/AMPs/SubAmps/Studios/Strip Clubs/Hotels etc, and as recent as less than a week ago with a repeat. I just move a little differently now. I have always traveled internationally but back then when my reviews here started my main focus was on DFW and I have since shifted towards more discretion. By the way, I love the international P4P scene and wish more could experience it at some point.
I want to help keep the Dallas scene alive because I have a vested interest here and I eat off the same plate as many of you do. I'm just more discreet about it. I know that I can sometimes be rough around the edges when it come to this subject and I realize no matter how much someone advocates caution, not much behavior will change. With that being said, I think I'm just going to sit back, relax and not be concerned about behavior that won't change and let the cards fall where they may.🃏🃏🃏

[TinMan]

When you can provide me with the template for writing a discrete review that will get me PA credit, I’ll be all ears. Like I said before, I tried it once and it didn’t work.

[Mental AtrraXXXion]

TinMan, I know you have tried your hand at being discreet and you have definitely had good input when it come to knowledge, suggestion and reason. Maybe the Mods can help us when it comes to how discreet we can be in reference to the reviews being accepted for PA. I understand the point.
A big issue is guys that have to write a review that is a Sex Novel complete with very descriptive intimate sexual details that reads like a porn script. Some of which have even gotten girls fired and removed while others wonder why their favorite girl is gone. Also the guys that sit in parking lots 3, 4 and 5 deep at a time while watching people come in and out of the place like a revolving door at an office building. All this brings unwanted attention from everybody and everything. Why can't they just return at another time even if it's on another date or is there no self control for some?
There is no easy way to mitigate circumstances but some don't even try or care. At least trying lowers the percentage but will not eliminate all threats and observations. It's about taking a part in being responsible for yourself and I respect those that at least try and know how to move.

[SHS]

Here are a few facts. The "massage" business was closed by an order issued to the owner to cease operations under the guise "evidence typically associated with human trafficing operations" and advertising on sites commonly used to promote prostitution.
If you wonder why they were really noticed by vice... this amp was at the same location as a recently closed amp.

Their suspicion of trafficing was entered as "workers were sleeping in the facility". Recently enabled statutes allow this type of shutdown if they can claim any activity similar to actual HT operations.

I've been in this hobby >4 decades, I've known many fine ladies well beyond quick encounters. I can assure everyone all the ladies are at the spa because they want to be at the spa.

Explicit reviews have been posted on the internet since before there was a WWW. If care about these ladies you'll do what you can to improve their earnings. This lifestyle has an expiration date, they all need to bang as much money within the window of opportunity. They all know this very well.

I see you are tripping out on explicit reviews because you think this is available evidence. It will be dismissed as hearsay long before a trial. Don't believe me, ask your Criminal Defense Attorney. Your virtue claims lack basis due to your ignorance. You attacking others while they follow the posted rules, is misdirected ire.

Sure, I watched Vice hit the same amp 3 times in 3 months. Vice cops did printout some ECCIE encounters, which they used to apply pressure on the workers. The old trickery where cops claim the have evidence to arrest or deport them so you need to confess now. LOL. Then the K lawyer arrived and they were back at the spa the next day. On the third try, Vice just made claims everyone here would know didn't happen, but a judge wouldn't know. Vice cops written testimony claimed the wrong prices for the services he claimed she agreed to. Vice cops claim was far too high. You'd think he would know the prices with access to ECCIE ROS, yet he did not. His entire conversation claim was obviously BS. This is not an available discussion at any amp.

These guys actually distributed printouts to other businesses in adjacent suites, just to maximize dick impact. They shut it down using landlord threats of charges. The lovely K dentist in the adj suite, was subletting that suite. The building owner put her lease in jeopardy.

Many have come before you thinking ECCIE comments jeopardize these awesome amps while exactly the opposite is the reality. Some amps, and some ladies, prefer no reviews, so we mostly respect their desire.
Do a quick survey to discover how it works. Just ask your fav if she'd rather work 10 more years at 3-4 encounters / day. Or 4 more years at 10-14 / day.

[tenacity11075]

I just want to point out the reason we are all on here is to get good intel on how to spend our hard earned dollars. Trial and error would be a great deal of waste (time and money). If there is no intel, there is no reason to be on here.

You might say that the level of detail is too extreme or that if we encode our reports we can fool LE. Do you really think so? Is it the level of detail that causes problems? Do you think we can all come up with a code that can outfox LE? This is ridiculous.

On the pain caused to the workers, some want advertising. I have been requested to leave a good review multiple times.

I can appreciate the instinct to not snitch on ourselves or on others, but have you really thought this through?

[Joddxxx]

The more you give explicit detail in rising the sex novel the more men start showing up through the revolving door of a spa. Yes, I do know some of the spas will advertise in various forums, but most of the amps are a brick and mortar store which they can’t move to a new location in a day or a week; such as, a independent provider staying at a hotel, apartment, or do an outcall. Therefore, the more you write your sex novel, the more traffic the amp will receive, the more suspicious the place will be. Case in point, Mapleshades. One of my favorite places that I enjoyed.

[TinMan]

What about the ones that don’t advertise, or at least have separate advertising (without an address or business name) and phone number for their hobby-related business? Does anyone have a problem with taking the AMP owner’s lead and not disclose the address and name of the storefront in those situations?

[Joddxxx]

Originally Posted by TinMan

What about the ones that don’t advertise, or at least have separate advertising (without an address or business name) and phone number for their hobby-related business? Does anyone have a problem with taking the AMP owner’s lead and not disclose the address and name of the storefront in those situations?

I don’t have a problem with that request. With the AMPs (brick and mortar) It’s more convenient for myself to run errands, then hit up an AMP as a walk-in or make a quick phone to schedule rather than an independent provider wants you to screen, schedule time that’s usually delay due to getting ready for you, unorganized with time, or request an extension for you to wait in the parking lot. Time is so precious due to work and other commitments.

I don’t mind giving a name, cross intersection, minus phone number and store’s name, and use ROS for more explicit details of what occurred, but will that grant you premium access to the forum?

[SHS]

If the amps are not busy, the best ladies will not be in the Dallas market area. Long ago alt.sex.prostitution.discussio n news group vastly improved the Dallas market for everyone.
It's simple and elegant. Excellent gals were described to prowlers, so her biz boomed. Awful gals were exposed to savvy gents, so her biz slowed a lot.
Excellent gals came from LA, SF, NY, ATL, Houston, when they called a friend here. How much? Really? Can I get into the amp with you? I'll be there next week.

This evolution of earnings driven talent continued until Dallas was the best market available. It was the best for the ladies and dudes. The quality of service, youth, fitness, beauty, were all superior to any other city, at a lower cost. The gals income was also much higher.

It is the money they earn which is the greatest driver.

Don't worry, everyone in this game has gone rounds with LE. amp managers, owners, and providers, know the game and expect LE to crash in one day soon. They already know, the cops cannot get the evidence to satisfy the ADA so they will lie to create BS evidence.
If you haven't been in an amp raid, you're still a virgin here.