‘Dangerous abuse of power’: lawmakers sound alarm over Comey indictment Democrats and legal experts say indictment is latest sign Trump is turning justice system into weapon to silence critics

[Lucas McCain]

Democrats should be happy about what Trump is doing. Let him indict everyone he can who hurt his wittle feewings and then just laugh at his stupid ass when none of them get convicted of anything.

He may be able to bully his way to get his DOJ flunkies to indict the people he wants to hurt, but he can't bully a jury to convict them. IMO, the people indicted like Comey should wear it as a badge of honor that the geezer moron in chief is going after them like a scorned and obsessed crazy bitch.

[Ducbutter]

[Tiny]

OK Ducbutter, then go after Comey for the FBI misrepresenting the facts when it applied for FISA warrants to surveil Carter Page. The investigation of Page though was pretty minor compared to what Comey inflicted on Martha Stewart, Scooter Libby and Steven Hatfill. Carter Page never went to jail or was even charged.

The charges filed against Comey, that he purportedly lied about whether he knew McCabe leaked info, look weaker than even what Dore and Chris (not Mike) Wallace came up with, if you're looking for criminal conduct. Yes Comey was sloppy, and a sanctimonious, grandstanding asshole. That's not criminal though.

I believe the FBI should have had its hand slapped over this, and it did. Kevin Clinesmith who falsified evidence for a FISA warrant was tried and convicted.

Unfortunately, what Comey did is just par for the course in the American justice system. You have prosecutors and police who break the rules to send people to the electric chair. Trump though thinks everything is about him. I wish he'd channel his energy instead into reforming the justice system, and actually he started to in his first term.

Again, Trump has every right to be pissed as hell about what happened to him in New York. But I just don't get why he views Comey as public enemy number 1.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Again, Trump has every right to be pissed as hell about what happened to him in New York. But I just don't get why he views Comey as public enemy number 1.

Because Trump is a bully and a vindictive little prick.

However I do think he’s on a revenge tour because he’s pandering to his base voters who want to see the other side punished.

Hell you’ve seen it in the language and postings in this very forum.

For these people it has nothing to do with what is fair or right but rather how they can punish those that they blame for what they consider the destruction of America.

[Lantern2814]

Wrong as usual. You just loved it when the bullshit lawfare was waged against Trump. Now you and the rest of the leftists here are crying because you're being held accountable for your lies. Just because under Obama and Biden your side never faced consequences for their crap you think you never should.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

Wrong as usual. You just loved it when the bullshit lawfare was waged against Trump. Now you and the rest of the leftists here are crying because you're being held accountable for your lies. Just because under Obama and Biden your side never faced consequences for their crap you think you never should.

... These lads are content to "go down with the ship"
- there's NO WAY any of 'em will ever admit they were
wrong and duped by all the OBama and Hillary LIES.

... See? ... They believe it was FINE for Comey and
Hillary and OBama to craft the "russian collusion" hoax.

... The lads here seem to believe that Comey and the
others SMEARING Trump with their false accusations
and outright LIES was fine and dandy.

... And Comey himself tryed to force Prez-Elect Trump
to step-down from the Presidency. ... No doubt pushed
by then-President OBama and company to do it.

... Comey should be charged with A LOT more crimes.

#### Salty

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by jayjaychrome

It was wrong when Obama did it, but because Obama did it, it's therefore right when Trump does it. But if it's now right, doesn't that mean it was also right when Obama did it. So what were the complaints about?

So which one is it: Is it wrong or right? Or is this a way of admitting that it is wrong, but we'll allow it because Obama did it? Because that would mean that you essentially sold out your personal moral values and no longer care about right vs wrong. Which is a bad thing when the left does it, but is now ok because the left did it?

And doesn't this mean that everything Obama did is either right, or potentially correct if Trump ever also decides to do it? Is anyone comfortable making that claim?

Ones sense of logic to essentially boils down to a crappy computer program:

If Trump did it, it = right.
If Obama did it, it = wrong.
If Trump and Obama did it, it = <brain broken; begin trolling>

This is what happens when you no longer have any personal values. Must be a living nightmare.

Hey JJ, good post! You walked us through the logical contradictions involved here. I mean, weaponizing the federal government to go after your political opponents is nasty and objectionable and wrong - no matter WHO does it, correct? We all know two wrongs don't make a right. This is like getting into a fight with your brother when you're 6 years old. You try to tell your mother "But HE started it!" as if that somehow makes you blameless. So she scolds you for reacting to his provocation and urges you to take the high road. (She doesn't tell you she is secretly proud of you for fighting back, because otherwise your brother would just keep on provoking fights lol.)

It seems like Republicans (at least some of them) are engaging in private soul-searching over this. Should we seek "retribution"? Or will that make us look and feel as slimy and unprincipled as the Democrats were when they invented lawfare? If we do nothing, what will deter the Dems from weaponizing government against us again & again whenever the opportunity arises in the future?

Here's an idea, JJ - why don't you apply your superior powers of logic to getting inside the head of those Democrats who persecuted trumpy relentlessly in the first place? How did THEY justify weaponizing the powers of the federal government and abusing the judiciary for partisan political purposes? They had to know it was wrong. Weren't they outraged and indignant when Nixon tried to do the same during the Watergate era? At least Tricky Dicky felt ashamed and apologized.

How did Democrats justify their misconduct? Did they convince themselves that trump is a nazi fascist authoritarian existential threat to democracy, who must be stopped at all costs - even if it means bending all the rules and lying to the Congress and the public about it?

Does the end justify the means? We must destroy the village in order to save it - remember that one? Help me out here, JJ. How do the soulless Dems sleep at night? Is their thinking logical at all?

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Tiny

And Republicans should want to be on the moral high ground. As the WSJ said, Trump achieved retribution at the ballot box in 2024. Why go after your enemies on weak grounds when they’re not going to be convicted, or have their convictions stand up on appeal?

Hey, that's an easy one. You do it to screw them financially. They're forced to hire expensive ($2,000/hour) attorneys to represent and defend them against the charges, frivolous or not. The DOJ has unlimited resources, but your enemies don't. If they're facing financial ruin, they're more likely to cop a plea deal, innocent or not.

Originally Posted by Tiny

We pay the bastards in Washington to provide peace and prosperity, not to go at each other like a bunch of professional wrestlers.

Are you sure about that?

[txdot-guy]

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Hey, that's an easy one. You do it to screw them financially. They're forced to hire expensive ($2,000/hour) attorneys to represent and defend them against the charges, frivolous or not. The DOJ has unlimited resources, but your enemies don't. If they're facing financial ruin, they're more likely to cop a plea deal, innocent or not.

Touche. Bienvenidos amigo!

Originally Posted by lustylad

Here's an idea, JJ - why don't you apply your superior powers of logic to getting inside the head of those Democrats who persecuted trumpy relentlessly in the first place? How did THEY justify weaponizing the powers of the federal government and abusing the judiciary for partisan political purposes? They had to know it was wrong. Weren't they outraged and indignant when Nixon tried to do the same during the Watergate era? At least Tricky Dicky felt ashamed and apologized.

How did Democrats justify their misconduct? Did they convince themselves that trump is a nazi fascist authoritarian existential threat to democracy, who must be stopped at all costs - even if it means bending all the rules and lying to the Congress and the public about it?

Does the end justify the means? We must destroy the village in order to save it - remember that one? Help me out here, JJ. How do the soulless Dems sleep at night? Is their thinking logical at all?

Interesting. You could call this the Mad Max Theory of the Evolution of Trump. He just wants to lead a quiet, peaceful life as leader of the free world. But the collapse of civilization and the cruelty and corruption of his opponents causes him to unleash holy hell.

I'm not sure whether I entirely agree. But it would make for some great memes! Trump dressed up like Mad Max or Rambo! How about one of the Seven Samurai? Or a gunslinger from the Magnificent Seven?

Given the number of Republicans that Trump has banished maybe this will end up more like High Plains Drifter. That only has a happy ending if you're a midget or a preacher's wife. And that's fine by me, because I'm Tiny! Or that's my online persona anyway. It turns out OK for the drifter (grifter) too. At the end of the movie, Clint Eastwood rides off in the distance, back to heaven (hell) depending on whether you're a Republican (or Democrat).

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Seems CNN's own Scott Jennings is thinking along a similar line.

...SCOTT JENNINGS:
As for the reaction to all of this, the weeping and gnashing of teeth from the no one is above the law crowd could be heard around the world last night. If you’ve looked at any news sources today, you’ve heard the word unprecedented thrown around endlessly, which tells me that apparently nobody knows what the definition of that word actually is. But please spare me the outrage over political prosecutions.

For all of you who ever said, no one is above the law, or said that institutions of justice are sacred and cannot be questioned, or described Donald Trump as a 34 felon, you know what I say? Choke on it. Just choke on it.

Honestly, if you cheered the political prosecutions of Donald Trump on cases that were clearly novel and made up just for him, just for politics, choke on it. If you are lamenting today, whoa, this was five years ago, and yet you cheered on the criminalization of a liaison Trump had in 2006, choke on it. If you’re whining about the use of process to punish people, but you cheered the use of process to cripple Trump, the candidate, Trump, the president, and his people, choke on it.

If you’re worried about revenge, let me ask you a simple question. Revenge for what exactly? Whatever do you mean?

Please elaborate. Do tell what it looks like when the criminal justice systems are weaponized...

[texassapper]

Leftists calling this revenge and saying Trump is vindictive....

We tried to tell you... but you thought you could prevent him from ever seeing elected office again by pursuing this path.

Suck it.