Another Transgender Goes Postal And Shoots Up a School

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

And still no long term solution that is in the maggie power to grant.

btw, how did that "good guy with a gun" do in Uvalde?

what solution do you have? this should be interesting


there was no "good guy" in Uvalde

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

what solution do you have? this should be interesting


there was no "good guy" in Uvalde

No good guy? There were at least 20.

https://www.al.com/news/2022/05/uval...he-school.html

Nearly 20 officers stood in a hallway outside of the classrooms during this week’s attack on a Texas elementary school for more than 45 minutes before agents used a master key to open a door and confront a gunman, authorities said Friday.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

No good guy? There were at least 20.

https://www.al.com/news/2022/05/uval...he-school.html

Nearly 20 officers stood in a hallway outside of the classrooms during this week’s attack on a Texas elementary school for more than 45 minutes before agents used a master key to open a door and confront a gunman, authorities said Friday.

these guys are heroes?


The on-site commander believed the gunman, 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, was barricaded in a classroom at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde during Tuesday’s attack and that the children were not at risk, Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steven McCraw said at a news conference.


“He was convinced at the time that there was no more threat to the children and that the subject was barricaded and that they had time to organize” to get into the classroom, McCraw said.


“Of course it was not the right decision. It was the wrong decision,” he said.


heroes, eh? not.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

...there was no "good guy" in Uvalde

You may recall that there was a guy (a Border patrol guy, if'n I recall), getting a haircut who borrowed the barber's shot gun, after receiving a call from his wife, who was a teacher at that school. He high tailed it to the school, blew right by the 20 officers and terminated the shooter poste haste.

[69in2it69]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

You may recall that there was a guy (a Border patrol guy, if'n I recall), getting a haircut who borrowed the barber's shot gun, after receiving a call from his wife, who was a teacher at that school. He high tailed it to the school, blew right by the 20 officers and terminated the shooter poste haste.

If'n I recall, makes a good bar story but not true.



While an off-duty agent said he rushed to the scene with a borrowed shotgun, he clarified in televised interviews that he didn’t kill the gunman or go inside the classroom where the shooting took place.
THE FACTS: Numerous false claims have spread online since an 18-year-old gunman killed 19 children and two teachers inside Robb Elementary School last week, including some social media posts in recent days that misidentified who ultimately stopped the shooter.
“In case anyone missed it the man that killed the school shooter in Texas wasn’t even an on duty officer,” one widely shared Facebook post read. “It was a parent and spouse of a 4th grade teacher, he just happened to be a border patrol agent.”


The post went on to describe that the off-duty officer was getting a haircut when he heard about the shooting, borrowed his barber’s shotgun, rushed to the scene, “evacuated his wife and daughter and went back in and shot the suspect.”
Much of that story matches the real account of Jacob Albarado, a Border Patrol agent in Uvalde who has said he rushed to the school with a shotgun borrowed from his barber and helped evacuate kids. It’s true that Albarado’s wife was a fourth-grade teacher at the school and his daughter was a second-grader at the school. But Albarado did not say he went inside the classroom where the shooting took place, nor did he say he killed the gunman.






In fact, Albarado contradicted these false claims in televised interviews.
“I didn’t have any of my gear, I was off duty, so, I didn’t go in,” Albarado told NBC’s “Today Show” in a Tuesday interview where he also described how police broke windows to help children evacuate the school.


In a Wednesday interview with CBS, Albarado further confirmed he didn’t kill the gunman, saying, “I didn’t shoot the guy. I wasn’t in the room with him shooting the guy. I never said I shot him. So I would like to clarify that as well.”

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by 69in2it69

If'n I recall, makes a good bar story but not true.



While an off-duty agent said he rushed to the scene with a borrowed shotgun, he clarified in televised interviews that he didn’t kill the gunman or go inside the classroom where the shooting took place.
THE FACTS: Numerous false claims have spread online since an 18-year-old gunman killed 19 children and two teachers inside Robb Elementary School last week, including some social media posts in recent days that misidentified who ultimately stopped the shooter.
“In case anyone missed it the man that killed the school shooter in Texas wasn’t even an on duty officer,” one widely shared Facebook post read. “It was a parent and spouse of a 4th grade teacher, he just happened to be a border patrol agent.”


The post went on to describe that the off-duty officer was getting a haircut when he heard about the shooting, borrowed his barber’s shotgun, rushed to the scene, “evacuated his wife and daughter and went back in and shot the suspect.”
Much of that story matches the real account of Jacob Albarado, a Border Patrol agent in Uvalde who has said he rushed to the school with a shotgun borrowed from his barber and helped evacuate kids. It’s true that Albarado’s wife was a fourth-grade teacher at the school and his daughter was a second-grader at the school. But Albarado did not say he went inside the classroom where the shooting took place, nor did he say he killed the gunman.






In fact, Albarado contradicted these false claims in televised interviews.
“I didn’t have any of my gear, I was off duty, so, I didn’t go in,” Albarado told NBC’s “Today Show” in a Tuesday interview where he also described how police broke windows to help children evacuate the school.


In a Wednesday interview with CBS, Albarado further confirmed he didn’t kill the gunman, saying, “I didn’t shoot the guy. I wasn’t in the room with him shooting the guy. I never said I shot him. So I would like to clarify that as well.”

CBS can't believe any thing from ...

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by 69in2it69

If'n I recall, makes a good bar story but not true... “I didn’t shoot the guy. I wasn’t in the room with him shooting the guy. I never said I shot him. So I would like to clarify that as well.”

Yes, my bad. Some outlets had said as much at the time. The rumors around town was that he had. (I have fam there) Granny said everyone in town knew that the perp/shooter wasn't "right in the head" for a long time (think red flags)

Jacob Albarado was evacuating kids and teachers from classrooms, while BORTAC (BTW: his peeps) provided cover. He got his daughter out and many others. Perp had bypassed his wife's room luckily. Then BORTAC dropped the shooter after 77 minutes from the start of the incident.

I'll own that. So now we can get back to discussing obvious missed red flags and the impacts of hormone therapy and psychotropic meds, including their impacts on dysphoric (dare we say delusional?) young people perhaps?

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

what solution do you have? this should be interesting


there was no "good guy" in Uvalde

Another typical maggie game book ploy: turn the attention away from y'all.

Show us where your mantra of "Hope and Prayers" is effectively working. Because that is all you offer while steadfastly refusing to believe there is a problem and are willing to let children die for your <insert selfish self serving adjective here>

And stop feeding your buddies into derailing this thread. Shutting it down will only illuminate your unwillingness to address the issue so as to not offer viable solutions (which is par for course with y'all.)

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

"it's" fear was a good guy with a gun



every school and church should be ARMED

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Another typical maggie game book ploy: turn the attention away from y'all.

Show us where your mantra of "Hope and Prayers" is effectively working. Because that is all you offer while steadfastly refusing to believe there is a problem and are willing to let children die for your <insert selfish self serving adjective here>

And stop feeding your buddies into derailing this thread. Shutting it down will only illuminate your unwillingness to address the issue so as to not offer viable solutions (which is par for course with y'all.)

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

these guys are heroes?

heroes, eh? not.

That’s the point. Just because someone has a gun and gun training doesn’t mean that you are going to get a good result. Fewer guns means fewer gun deaths.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

...Fewer guns means fewer gun deaths.

It doesn't in the big crime cities, like Chicago, Baltimore, NYC - basically all the Dem run metropolitans, with egregious gun control (limits) laws on the books.

But let us ask the greater question: Does it matter what weapon killed you when you're dead? Because we can talk about the UK and other locations as well.

No, the number one factor in homicides is maniacal idiots, regardless of their weapon of choice. OKC bombing anyone?

[texassapper]

The FBI on Monday released to The Tennessee Star more pages from the journals written by Audrey Elizabeth Hale, who killed six at the Covenant School on March 27, 2023. The newly released pages feature an entry where Hale included President Donald Trump on a “fantasy murder list.”

Containing just four names, including two that were redacted by the FBI prior to their release of the journal, Hale included Trump as the first name in her second column of those who she would like to kill, potentially suggesting she added the name after writing a subsequent journal entry.

Hale also included “Creswell Middle Prep,” in an apparent reference to Isiah T. Creswell Middle School, where she played on a school basketball team about a decade prior. She reportedly considered attacking the school, but later determined to attack the Christian elementary school she once attended, fearing she would be accused of racism if she attacked the predominantly black middle school.

The journal which includes the “fantasy murder list” was labeled 2019-2020 by the killer, and Hale dated the preceding page to November 5, 2019, nearly three years after Trump was elected to the White House in 2016.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

It doesn't in the big crime cities, like Chicago, Baltimore, NYC - basically all the Dem run metropolitans, with egregious gun control (limits) laws on the books.

But let us ask the greater question: Does it matter what weapon killed you when you're dead? Because we can talk about the UK and other locations as well.

No, the number one factor in homicides is maniacal idiots, regardless of their weapon of choice. OKC bombing anyone?

Does more guns mean fewer gun deaths?

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Does more guns mean fewer gun deaths?

yes.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Does more guns mean fewer gun deaths?

It does for myself.