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09-08-2025, 05:22 AM
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No Bill of Rights in The UK
Over in the UK, they are having a real problem with free speech. The current majority Labor Government, their progressive leftists, passed some confiscatory tax laws. Pep[le there are being arrested for merely expressing opposition to these laws when they speak out in public or even online.
Some British comedian was arrested last wee, on returning from the USA for remarks he made while here in the USA.
They have no Bill of Rights there and so no written-into-law right to free speech.
Most of what is said here on this forum about the pros and cons of American public policy could get any of us arrested if directed at their current Labor Party or its policies.
Think back to the hysteria of the 2020 pandemic. Think back to what happened to folks who expressed support for therapeutic medicines (Ivermectin and others) . Think back to those who lost their jobs over expressing doubts about out the effectiveness or safety of Covid shots.
That is exactly what the progressive liberals in the Democratic Party here in the USA want to do to American Society. What is happening in the UK today is exactly what the Progressive leftists want to be the society norm here in the USA.
Think this over as we approach the Midterm primaries.
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09-08-2025, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ICU 812
Over in the UK, they are having a real problem with free speech. The current majority Labor Government, their progressive leftists, passed some confiscatory tax laws. Pep[le there are being arrested for merely expressing opposition to these laws when they speak out in public or even online.
Some British comedian was arrested last wee, on returning from the USA for remarks he made while here in the USA.
They have no Bill of Rights there and so no written-into-law right to free speech.
Most of what is said here on this forum about the pros and cons of American public policy could get any of us arrested if directed at their current Labor Party or its policies.
Think back to the hysteria of the 2020 pandemic. Think back to what happened to folks who expressed support for therapeutic medicines (Ivermectin and others) . Think back to those who lost their jobs over expressing doubts about out the effectiveness or safety of Covid shots.
That is exactly what the progressive liberals in the Democratic Party here in the USA want to do to American Society. What is happening in the UK today is exactly what the Progressive leftists want to be the society norm here in the USA.
Think this over as we approach the Midterm primaries.
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paging Eric Blair ..

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09-08-2025, 09:18 AM
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Never too late
For those of you for whom absolutely everything is about gender, there's good news. It'll be okay
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09-08-2025, 12:20 PM
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I agree with what you're saying in the first part of your post ICU. Yes, free speech is a fundamental right in the USA, and it's not in the UK. And UK politicians and others there use that to their advantage to stifle opinion.
In the USA, I'm not sure whether the left or the right is more guilty of censorship. It may seem like the left is more culpable, because it has more control over the big universities and the big cities, where protests and attempts to censor free speech are higher profile. But it goes both ways -- take a look at the recent thread here on flag burning for example.
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09-08-2025, 01:35 PM
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It can’t happen here
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09-08-2025, 04:01 PM
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Here in the US, one can share the luv without reprisal
In the UK you get locked up for sharing the luv via a mere meme.
Well... leastwise during the current administration. Just ask Douglass Mackey.
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09-08-2025, 06:56 PM
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The people in the UK are subjects. We are citizens.
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09-08-2025, 08:13 PM
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Of course they don't have a Bill of Rights. Why you think they came here and started them?
And they should go to Speakers Corner if they got something to say.
Or get elected to Parliament. I do love how those in the House of Lords and Commons get on. They are more mature in there rapture than we are here during heated discussion.
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09-08-2025, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Precious_b
Of course they don't have a Bill of Rights. Why you think they came here and started them?
And they should go to Speakers Corner if they got something to say.
Or get elected to Parliament. I do love how those in the House of Lords and Commons get on. They are more mature in there rapture than we are here during heated discussion.
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the lack of historical knowledge here is appalling
two words ...
Magna Carta
you know .. that English document that inspired the Bill of Rights?
Magna Carta ( Medieval Latin for "Great Charter"), sometimes spelled Magna Charta, [a] is a royal charter[4][5] of rights sealed by King John of England at Runnymede, near Windsor, on 15 June 1215.
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09-08-2025, 09:54 PM
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Magna Carta is the first step out of the swamp.
Like the Declaration of Independence here
So, you would be more apt to find a document after the MC.
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09-08-2025, 10:01 PM
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Magna Carta is the first step out of the swamp.
Like the Declaration of Independence here
So, you would be more apt to find a document after the MC.
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why? this isn't the UK. btw those treasonous revolutionaries as British citizens were covered by the Magna Carta until they held that little rebellion. yes?
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09-08-2025, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Precious_b
Of course they don't have a Bill of Rights. Why you think they came here and started them?
And they should go to Speakers Corner if they got something to say.
Or get elected to Parliament. I do love how those in the House of Lords and Commons get on. They are more mature in there rapture than we are here during heated discussion.
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
why? this isn't the UK....?
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that's what i said. they citizens....well...maybe. Did they go through Ellis Island?
And which version of said Carta? It had it roots yanked from it and then alot of resubmissions.
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09-08-2025, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Precious_b
that's what i said. they citizens....well...maybe. Did they go through Ellis Island?
And which version of said Carta? It had it roots yanked from it and then alot of resubmissions.
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because that isn't why they came to America. they came here to found a new British colony. it was many decades later before any thought of rebellion came about.
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09-09-2025, 04:16 AM
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Seen on a bumper sticker during the Obama years"
]"An unarmed man is a subject. An armed man is a citizen!"
BTW: In another thread, I posted my support for the right to burn any flag as an expression of free speech.
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09-09-2025, 05:42 AM
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Finally
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The people in the UK are subjects. We are citizens.
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