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Old 09-04-2025, 10:27 PM   #16
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Noem started out better but has declined ever since. She now just parrots the Trump agenda to a tee.
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Fox News the channel gets more viewers because they program opinion programs which are both highly slanted and highly uninformative.

I like to watch the news without all the bullshit that doesn’t need to be there.

The Fox news channel is straight up conservative propaganda.

you're kidding right?

all opinion news is biased

what do you claim is "unbiased" news?
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Old 09-05-2025, 03:16 AM   #18
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Fox News the channel gets more viewers because they program opinion programs which are both highly slanted and highly uninformative.

I like to watch the news without all the bullshit that doesn’t need to be there.

The Fox news channel is straight up conservative propaganda.
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Old 09-05-2025, 04:35 AM   #19
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I think that CBS did much the same thing before the Zimmerman trial. They edited the 911 recording to make it look like Zimmerman was racist.
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Old 09-06-2025, 06:12 AM   #20
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Did ya catch this response to getting caught editing?
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..."In response to audience feedback over the past week, we have implemented a new policy for greater transparency in our interviews," a CBS News spokesperson told The Hollywood Reporter. "Face the Nation will now only broadcast live or live-to-tape interviews (subject to national security or legal restrictions). This extra measure means the television audience will see the full, unedited interview on CBS and we will continue our practice of posting full transcripts and the unedited video online."...
Why would a licensed news outlet need a new policy for accuracy and transparency, while it subsequently states that it will continue posting unedited video.

Look here <--, not --> there at it's finest.
Worse yet, the rubes fall for it every time.
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Old 09-06-2025, 06:50 AM   #21
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This will turn CBS into a propaganda shill for both parties. What a joke.

https://archive.ph/35SIc. Read the archived article here. Excerpts from article below.

CBS News Agrees Not to Edit ‘Face The Nation’ Interviews Following Homeland Security Backlash

CBS News is giving up the power it has to hold “Face the Nation” interviewees to account.

The Paramount Skydance news unit said Friday it would cease editing taped interviews with newsmakers who appear on “Face the Nation” following complaints from the Trump administration over an appearance on the show earlier this week when U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem made a number of false or unproven statements about Kilmar Abergo Garcia, the Salvadoran man who was deported despite his having protected legal status in the United States.

The move is an unorthodox one, leaving CBS News unable to remove false statements or propaganda uttered by political operatives and officials and undermining the authority and credibility of Margaret Brennan, the moderator of the Sunday public-affairs program. The edict is also risky, potentially giving viewers the sense that Brennan is less able to question or challenge her guests — one of the main elements of TV’s Sunday political shows that bring viewers to them in the first place.

This also means “Nation” could become a home of live grandstanding by interviewees from either side of the political aisle who would rather spout talking points than answer a question.
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Old 09-06-2025, 10:05 AM   #22
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Silence can be another form of deception . . . .aka lying.
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Silence can be another form of deception . . . .aka lying.
Silence would be not putting her on the air in the first place. Good journalism tries to get to the truth of the matter. Allowing people to say any damn thing they want, i.e. lying, means that you are not a journalist anymore but an extension of their press outlet.

When CBS gave in to the narrative that their editing was unfair it made knuckling under a second time seem legitimate when it’s really nothing more than the executives at CBS throwing their journalists under the bus.

Lying is Lying and the Trump administration is chock full of it. Responsible journalists should not be giving politicians a platform to legitimize their lies.
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Old 09-06-2025, 04:19 PM   #24
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When airing an interview, the person being interviewed should not have their answers edited. If there's not enough time to show the complete interview, you show as much as possible (unedited) and supply the whole interview online. Seems pretty simple to me.

If someone is lying in the interview there are legal ways to deal with it. Opinion pieces typically state that they are just that person's opinion, not the broadcaster's.
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When airing an interview, the person being interviewed should not have their answers edited. If there's not enough time to show the complete interview, you show as much as possible (unedited) and supply the whole interview online. Seems pretty simple to me.

If someone is lying in the interview there are legal ways to deal with it. Opinion pieces typically state that they are just that person's opinion, not the broadcaster's.
I would agree with putting a disclaimer on the show that some of the interviews were edited for length and clarity and then a link or qr code to the complete unedited version. I don’t have a problem with that.
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Old 09-07-2025, 04:27 AM   #26
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Silence would be not putting her on the air in the first place. Good journalism tries to get to the truth of the matter. Allowing people to say any damn thing they want, i.e. lying, means that you are not a journalist anymore but an extension of their press outlet.

When CBS gave in to the narrative that their editing was unfair it made knuckling under a second time seem legitimate when it’s really nothing more than the executives at CBS throwing their journalists under the bus.

Lying is Lying and the Trump administration is chock full of it. Responsible journalists should not be giving politicians a platform to legitimize their lies.
The "silence" I am referring to is broadcasting only part of her statement and cutting out other parts . . .that silence.

We can get pedantic over the definition of lying, but intentionally leaving out statements to color the interviewee's position is mendaciously misleading the audience and maliciously misrepresents the interviewee.

The concept I refer to is often called "lying by omission".

But let's drop the wrestling over nomenclature. What CBS did was wrong. That is not quality journalism.
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Old 09-07-2025, 04:44 AM   #27
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Lying is Lying and the Trump administration is chock full of it. Responsible journalists should not be giving politicians a platform to legitimize their lies.

And now a few baldfaced lies from prominent Democrats of the past:


"ing you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your plan you can keep your plan." Turns out we COULDN'T.

"I never had sex with that woman . . ." It turned out that he HAD.

And who of us in the "boomer generation" can ever forget President Johnson lying about the so-called Tonkin Gulf incident tat he used to justify escalating our involvement in the Viet Nam War? It turned out that none of that actually happened . . . .and thousands of young Americans died.
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Old 09-07-2025, 05:43 AM   #28
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...Good journalism tries to get to the truth of the matter...
,by editing other peoples speech to fit their narrative. FIFY.
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...Allowing people to say any damn thing they want...
We should pass a Constitutional amendment about that - again.
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Face the Nation is a 1 hour long news program. They want to fill it with as much content as possible. If some of the content is taped editing occurs to match runtime to fit in the 1 hour format.

I hate to break it to you guys but editing for content, fact checking, and time constraints have been around since the advent of the newspaper. Don’t like it switch to another channel.
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...even the Decepticons had clocks.

They did not edit the interview for time, they edited it for content. Big difference. That show has been around a long time, almost 70 years, I think. Are ya'll telling me they don't know how to manage the freak'n clock by now?!?

I can see cutting out portions if someone has a sneezing fit or needs a bathroom break or the guest get's an important phone call, etc., but slicing and dicing answers to a question?!?

Oh... and that live fact checking thing: that's not an interview, that is a debate. But trying to argue is a classic way to squash answers they don't like and run out the clock.

Remember the Trump vs the O'biden debate, where they wished they had gone with a zucchini instead of ol' Joe? They did live fact checking there to what end? Like the news medias couldn't argue ad nauseum about it the next day?
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