Why I carry a firearm in Church.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Devo

Carrying a pistol or a rifle openly is legal in PA, I choose NOT to do because I have the COURTESY to not upset someone who may choose not to arm themselves.

I also avoid "Rallies" or other public displays because I personally think most protests are silly, and are just an open invitation for conflict, and that's the last place you should be with a gun, at least in my opinion.

Others can choose as they like, and I only have one small Trump flag, that someone gave me as a joke gift.

Your quoted post is very childish, do better.

I do like to point out the absurd-

gun free zones are a targeted area??? Do you have any information that would substantiate that claim? From what I have read, that isn't the case at all. What is strange- is that for some reason schools seem to be a target - which is sickening to me, but from a research perspective- I've never read that gun free= means shooters preference.

[tommy156]

Your daily reminder that we're the only big boy country on earth with a mass shootings problem.

I don't even bother listening to the arguments on either side anymore. We're wrong, and almost all of this is easily preventable. End of story.

[1#Ratt]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Hermaphrodites are basically people with a birth defect and shouldn’t even be part of the discussion. What’s going on now is a social contagion, no different than cutting or bulimia, yet we encourage it. Gender “affirming” care, a complete misnomer, is akin to telling a 5’9” 65 pound girl that she’s right, she looks fat and should go on a diet. If she does eat something she should sneak into the bathroom and puke it up. A lot of it’s due to horrific parenting by leftist radicals, Munchausen syndrome by proxy. They should be ashamed and, frankly, shunned by society. If your boy is in a sundress and flats, wearing lipgloss and a pink bow in his hair, going by some other name, you should be thrown in a deep, dark hole and not be let out for a looooong time. It’s straight up abuse and no society should allow it.

I see you didn't even read it; your response proves it. I didn't expect most Mega on here would, they may learn something.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Your daily reminder that we're the only big boy country on earth with a mass shootings problem.

I don't even bother listening to the arguments on either side anymore. We're wrong, and almost all of this is easily preventable. End of story.

You’re right! We are absolutely wrong. But how does it get changed? I’m really surprised there isn’t a real grass roots effort to get the majority of Americans together and insist on responsible legislation.
Most of us believe in the second amendment. It’s these military grade weapons that have no business becoming toys for the sane and killing machines for the insane.
Make our crooked politicians react to real pressure.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by Charley3

You’re right! We are absolutely wrong. But how does it get changed? I’m really surprised there isn’t a real grass roots effort to get the majority of Americans together and insist on responsible legislation.
Most of us believe in the second amendment. It’s these military grade weapons that have no business becoming toys for the sane and killing machines for the insane.
Make our crooked politicians react to real pressure.

The sound of sheep pulling their teeth out to stop the Wolves from attacking them must sound very painful.

What people are going to rise up?

Yall gonna rehire the George Floyd Army and burn poor black neighborhoods down again?

Back in the day, you only had the NRA to attack, now there are half a dozen filing lawsuits, and WE KEEP winning.

Heres a list, not all wins, but far more than the losses.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases-by-topic/gun-rights/

Do your best, bring it on, drag Gabby the former gun owning vegetable out, put David "Geek" Hogg on the same stage, he's free now since the DNC canned his ass, and raise all the money to ban all the guns.

[Devo]

Oh yeah, I just bought a 3rd Suppressor of a model that I use on both pistols and high powered rifles, the 3rd, THE THIRD ONE, you see.

It is now named Charley3, in your honor.

[tommy156]

Go ahead and keep celebrating the easily preventable mass murder of Americans, we just don't want to hear a peep from you if it's any of your loved ones who get mowed down next.

[Old_Timer_68]

Originally Posted by maint729

Salty that's what everyone says when you mention gun control. I never said a word of taking people's guns. Just one type, not all. Anybody with any kind of sense knows they should never been available to the common asshole and I consider everybody a common asshole. Our forefathers had flint locks not even percussions when they made the Constitution.

That's like saying when they come out with birth control. The government won't let us have children anymore.

You seem to forget the Puckle gun, which was available in the 1700's. Look it up.
You also seem to forget that government initiatives are prone to mission creep. Once the AR's are outlawed, what is next? That's similar to how the UK did it. Now they're outlawing knives.
If you're for outlawing AR'S, how about the Ruger Mini-14? Basically the same weapon, just not so scary looking to the clueless folks like you. Same caliber and 30 round magazines readily available.
The truth is, outlawing a firearm will do nothing but create more victims. Someone with evil intent will always find a way.
The solution, in this situation, is to go back to treating gender dysphoria as the mental disorder it is. That being said, someone with a mental disorder cannot legally buy a firearm.

[Old_Timer_68]

Interesting how you're claiming that firearms are the number one cause of death for children ages 1 to 19...
Since when is an 18 or 19 year old considered a child? The reason why 18 and 19 year olds (normally considered adults) are included in your statistic is to skew the numbers higher by including the deaths of gang-bangers in cities like Detroit, Chicago, LA,Philly, etc.
In any other situation, 18 & 19 year olds are considered to be adults: they can vote, be drafted, own a car, legally sign a contract, own property, etc, etc.
If you remove those gang-bangers, who will find one way or another to kill each other, the statistic is bunk. Firearms go way down on the list of causes of death for children. You need new ,material.
What is the number one cause of death for children? Abortion.

[Old_Timer_68]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

You and Devo should go with your gaks on display. Of course you need to be wrapped in your TRUMP flag and MAGA hats. Heck I think you would probably agree that if somebody didn't put a couple bucks into the tithe plate, a good Christian nationalist should start blasting into the air to encourage that 10%. And if anybody side eyes ya, well maybe they were plotting against you too. Better to shoot first and ask questions later or never

And when the Leftist has nothing, they go for the ad hominem. Thank you for being so predictable a d showing just how shallow you are.

[Old_Timer_68]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Also doesn’t change the fact that if Mr. trans lunatic didn’t have access to an AR-15 he wouldn’t have been able to fire off the approx 140 rounds that he did.
But as long as you kids are have “fun” with these military grade weapons I don’t see anything changing. Your NRA lobby has the crooked politicians by the balls.

Hmmm....maybe if trans was actually treated as the mental disorder it is, the trans lunatic wouldn't have been able to buy a gun...
Just like a (Staff edit) cannot legally buy a gun, a trans shouldn't either. Not rocket science.
But no, you would rather infringe upon the rights of responsible gun owners instead & lump everyone together.

[Old_Timer_68]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Funny - your post had nothing to do with church going folk and guns. It was just another anecdote about 2nd amendment rights by the founders. (Off topic)

I specifically find it absurd to have a need to carry to their place of worship.

Both of mine did focus & pointed out the hypocrisy of that - cause Jesus surely would not be a fan. And then I thought I'd demonstrate that despite you and the RedHats of this forums fascination with guns, that EVEN the PARTY and the leader themselves don't allow this 2nd amendment to be practiced.

Perhaps non-jabberwocky English is a 2nd language for you since the subtlety was lost on your understanding, or was it something else? I can assure you that it dealt with both guns (topic) and church (topic).

Don't you find it surprising that felonious Donnie cannot legally own a gun, or take it to church or ANYWHERE?

NO GUNS for Mr. Felon



Still winning?

Nah

So sorry that you're so triggered 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣

[maint729]

All you MAGA'S exaggerate worrying about homosexuals because Trump don't like them. If Trump liked them you guys would be sending them flowers and money to get there operation. MAGA'S always always say they're going to take your guns away from you and they keep telling you everyday We just wanted outlaw certain guns to the general public which never ever should have been sold to begin with.

We all have thoughts I actually don't care about anyones except mine. And I only worry about my actions because one day we all will face that judgment day. I've done wrong things not on purpose or I had a good reason. let them keep on killing innocent people and you can all protest about how they're going to take your guns away and all the bullshit. What does your hero say FAKE NEWS.

I just hope one day you MAGA'S don't regret what you're wishing for.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by maint729

All you MAGA'S exaggerate worrying about homosexuals because Trump don't like them. If Trump liked them you guys would be sending them flowers and money to get there operation. MAGA'S always always say they're going to take your guns away from you and they keep telling you everyday We just wanted outlaw certain guns to the general public which never ever should have been sold to begin with.

We all have thoughts I actually don't care about anyones except mine. And I only worry about my actions because one day we all will face that judgment day. I've done wrong things not on purpose or I had a good reason. let them keep on killing innocent people and you can all protest about how they're going to take your guns away and all the bullshit. What does your hero say FAKE NEWS.

I just hope one day you MAGA'S don't regret what you're wishing for.

You didn't pay attention to the statistics posted earlier, rifles in general, make up a miniscule amount of crime, you can't even carry a rifle or a shotgun legally in a vehicle, even with a carry permit in PA, so the vast majority of legal citizens aren't likely to carry them, I do, but they are legal short barreled rifles and shotguns, the FEDS, know I have manufactured them.

Criminals don't use them for the same reason, thats why Handguns are the main guns used in crime and for killing, so, your argument about ARs are MOOT, and your constant demand to outlaw them ONLY MAKES MORE PEOPLE BUY MORE OF THEM.

Every time a serious gun control of effort is made, every AR and round of ammo skyrockets in price, making huge green for the sellers, and emptying warehouses, I have seen this at least half a dozen times or more, SO FAR.

IF there are 20 million ARs registered, there are 40 million out there, not to mention the extra and easy to swap parts, you can change calibers, on one gun, making it many different guns.

And you have almost a million legal machine guns, not to mention the millions of AKs, its variants and at least two dozen more models that are similar but not a true AK or AR.

I don't think you understand the scale and the amount of firearms that exist in this country, I'll say it again, Pandoras box hasn't opened, its been open since before this country was born, and guns and America are inseperable, just as are humans and dogs, they have a symbiotic relationship that allows one tiny human to protect from multiple assailants, a force magnifer, nobody is giving up SHIT.

Not even the sheep, because you were too afraid to protect yourself, to begin with.

Gun control is a pipe dream, a romantic vision that will never, ever occur, get over it, and start looking for the truth behind the shootings, and I think you will find mental illness to be the usual cause for mass shootings, with the exception of a few martyrs here and there, like the Muzzies that shot up the office in Kalifornia or, just plain evil people.

A recent string of shootings have one thing in common, sick, and mentally ill trans people and a gun.

I asked before, whether any of you thought a gun could take a life without any human intervention, none of you answered.

But the correct answer is NO, no firearm ever killed someone with a human being doing something to interact with it.

Its not the gun, its the hand that uses it to kill.

Get over it already.



See the dude on the left using the raygun to melt the guy on the right, there is your example, even the raygun has to used by someone.

As for regerts, the only one I would have is not having a firearm to stop a crime or murder that I could have.

Because that's the problem with being a sheep dog, I keep my eyes open to whats around me, and stopping the wolf, may save a sheeps life as well.

You hope that I or others get shot, or our families do, which tells me just how sick you are, but what would have happened if a guy stood up at the first shot and put a round into the latest church shooter and he stopped it, as has happened before, you wouldn't even be speaking about gun control right now, and sure as hell not about the guy that stopped it being a hero.

Being a hero is sometimes nothing more than having the right person in the right place at the right time, hero's aren't born, they are made, and being aware of something bad happening is a good start.

[txdot-guy]

The amount of FUD in this thread is staggering. Simply to push a transphobic and homophobic narrative. Which is itself used to justify a right wing gun nut narrative. Simply astounding.

Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) is a manipulative propaganda tactic used in technology sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling, and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and is a manifestation of the appeal to fear.