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Old 08-12-2025, 06:09 PM   #901
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If I understand this correctly, everyone who ever negotiated anything is a "taco", since they didn't stick to their first request/demand.
No. Applies only to Trump. It's in the name and was coined by Wall Street traders who realized his "negotiations" were a lot of bark, while folks like Bam and Waco here were pushing these moves as being intended to generate zero tariffs. Irrational rationalizing at its finest.

Note how he didn't get anywhere near the stated goal of 90 deals in 90 days and was mostly negotiating with himself.

There's smart negotiating and then there's TACO negotiating. We didn't get to the current tariff regime under Trump with smart negotiating. Not for zero tariffs or free trade. Not even for fair trade, because there's no requirement for balanced trade. That's a fiction that many just accept, because "deficits" are bad.
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Old 08-12-2025, 06:31 PM   #902
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No. Applies only to Trump. It's in the name and was coined by Wall Street traders who realized his "negotiations" were a lot of bark, while folks like Bam and Waco here were pushing these moves as being intended to generate zero tariffs. Irrational rationalizing at its finest.

Note how he didn't get anywhere near the stated goal of 90 deals in 90 days and was mostly negotiating with himself.

There's smart negotiating and then there's TACO negotiating. We didn't get to the current tariff regime under Trump with smart negotiating. Not for zero tariffs or free trade. Not even for fair trade, because there's no requirement for balanced trade. That's a fiction that many just accept, because "deficits" are bad.



does TACO apply to all the nations caving in to Trump? is there a requirement to allow US trade to be unfair? i find it amusing so many want Trump to fail at what would be good for US business .. makes me wonder where one's loyalty lies?


when Trump succeeds and the markets keep going up bigly and US revenue continues to spike what are you going to say? fake news? it didn't happen? a Trump lie? can't wait to see you have to concede Trump accomplished this
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Old 08-12-2025, 06:49 PM   #903
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i find it amusing so many want Trump to fail at what would be good for US business .. makes me wonder where one's loyalty lies
You actually have to wonder about that? Leftist tribalism trumps all, they’d LOVE for the country to fall into a deep depression to satiate their hate. You’re talking about a bunch of people who think it’s bad to throw out people who snuck into the country. Their loyalties lie bare for all to see, it’s why they got hammered in the election. Reasonable people want what’s best for the country regardless of who’s in office, unfortunately ‘reasonable’ is a bad descriptor for the tds crowd.
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Old 08-12-2025, 07:24 PM   #904
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I'm for limited, targeted tariffs. And a right of center, moderate independent.

These tariffs have the deft touch and finesse of a fumbling geriatric with arthritis trying to eat applesauce with a spoon. How many F-150's and SUV's are you expecting Europe to buy? Trump expects a lot. Hoping you don't.

And then there's this
https://apnews.com/article/us-budget...838a6213cf2c94

Which tells you what you need to know about whether tariff revenue is going to pay down the deficit that matters

(it won't)

And he's still lying to you
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/12/econo...-goldman-sachs
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Old 08-12-2025, 07:36 PM   #905
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- Jared Vennett - The Big Short

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Old 08-12-2025, 07:44 PM   #906
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It was going to happen one way or another. Because it’s rigged. You should educate yourself on futures and derivatives. It’s all a computer casino which average folks don’t control or understand. Same as the fake paper US dollar. They print it out of thin air and send it wherever they want to send it. Did you ever ponder for one second how Congress people become extremely wealthy? How did we get 36 trillion in debt? Where did the money go? Are we better off? The market was way overvalued to begin with. Because it’s rigged. They bailed the system out in 2008. They won’t be able to this time. It’s over. A new day is coming. If you don’t have your assets in your possession, you’re fucked.
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